Aulro Vendors

[Sparksdisco]

There was no real spot to put this as the vendor spot is locked for vendors only

I want to purchase a heap of parts and get them sent up to porthedland.
Being a person that likes to help the fellow AULROian and australian small business out i was going to post a parts list here for the venders on this site to give me some quotes.

I would not expect venders to reply to the post but rather send me a PM so there is no undercutting or funny stuff.

Is this somthing that is missing from AULRO?

A lot of people get on here and say how cheep it is overseas to get parts and blah blah

I think if AULROians support our fellow man rather than trying to screw them by buying overseas then this could only be a good thing.

Is there an area already set up so forum members can put up a shopping list for AULRO venders to price? and if not than is this a good idea?

Also is this allowed and where do i post it? I wont put up my list unless it is ok to do so.

Any way ill put it out there for peoples ideas

[Landy Smurf]

I suppose the closest area would be the wanted section

[TD50WA]

When the vendors start giving prices at least somewhat close to what I can buy from overseas, I will GLADLY buy from them.

Example: intercooler from England including shipping $700. Local $1200 not including shipping.

Tree sliders from England made to my specs including shipping $600. Local $1000 not including shipping.

I could go on and I am sure there are others that can add to this endless list.

I do contact various vendors here and when the price is close I do buy and I want to support local (Australian) but not when there is evidence of prices in our great country not only for land rover parts, but many items, being inflated because of an array of excuses - there has been several exposé shows on tv revealing that an item produced overseas sells for many times the price in oz than anywhere else, Ikea is a good example.

In defence of some vendors here, I have contacted them and discussed prices and agreement has been reached, but when it can't, I go overseas. I want value for my hard earned, not ripped off.
But I do support your idea, maybe it's a step towards getting some fairer pricing in oz, at least for Aulro members anyway.:D

Edit: Just further to that, what about an area where we can post prices we paid for something, that way everyone knows and when contacting vendors (who can also read this) know what they have to match to get our business.
Prices only, no vendor details in fairness. If someone wants to know where, they pm. This will promote competition.
This area can be separated into engine, body, accessories etc and maybe a set format, like fill in a form?
Also maybe just add overseas, or local.
Just a thought.

Cheers
Kev

[Sparksdisco]

Edit: Just further to that, what about an area where we can post prices we paid for something, that way everyone knows and when contacting vendors (who can also read this) know what they have to match to get our business.
Prices only, no vendor details in fairness. If someone wants to know where, they pm. This will promote competition.
This area can be separated into engine, body, accessories etc and maybe a set format, like fill in a form?
Also maybe just add overseas, or local.
Just a thought.

Cheers
Kev

Sounds like a good idea to me.
I to dont like to be ripped off but if someone in oz has good customer service and is within around the same ball park then payng more is resonable

[gavinwibrow]

Sounds like a good idea to me.
I to dont like to be ripped off but if someone in oz has good customer service and is within around the same ball park then payng more is resonable
x2 - sounds like a plan!

[Landy Smurf]

the difference between ikea in sweden and ikea in australia is it is 10% more expensive here.
I have often thought about starting a business of importing large amount of land rover parts from england in shipping containers to here and then selling them for a small profit but I dont think I really have the time or money to do that and in the ned I will probably be left with heaps of stock and end up no further ahead for my trouble

[TD50WA]

the difference between ikea in sweden and ikea in australia is it is 10% more expensive here.
I have often thought about starting a business of importing large amount of land rover parts from england in shipping containers to here and then selling them for a small profit but I dont think I really have the time or money to do that and in the ned I will probably be left with heaps of stock and end up no further ahead for my trouble

Whilst this is not an ikea forum:D it is about pricing....
There was an exposé a little while ago, an item, I cannot remember what it was, was made in Sweden(is that ikea home base), shipped by sea, the same ship dropped some in oz and the rest in the US.
The price in home base was equal to about $80 if I remember correctly, the price in the US was $80, but the price here, remember it came on the same ship, was something like $180......I can't remember the exact price, I'm sure someone else saw the show, 60 minutes I think.....

Now that is slightly more than 10% difference. BTW, Ikea made no comment from what I remember...

There was a piece in our local paper here in Perth about pricing in oz, we are known around the world as a "soft touch" when it comes to pricing, everyone knows we will pay....

Cheers
Kev

[Landy Smurf]

the prices have changed quite abit since I first got back as then pretty much everything was 10% different I just had a look on the 2 websites then a few things were cheaper here then in sweden( yes it is the home base of ikea, but a lot fo the are not made in sweden).
Ikea is big in australia but it is not that big so maybe that may have something to do with the prices it also depends on what item it is

[Landy Smurf]

Back to the OP i have been thinking about it and it is a great idea it could also lead to group buys or help finding the cheapest price because as we all know the prices on land rover bits change a lot from country to country and from shop to shop

[TD50WA]

I'm sure the exposé selected its items carefully to demonstrate its point of view as well;)

But in general, the evidence of pricing is there, all we can do is negotiate and vote with our dollar. I intend to continue to get value for mine, so vendors, whilst I will pay a fair price, I'm not going to support price disparity.:)

Cheers
Kev

[weeds]

i normally PM them or go to there website and either ring or email.......you mention you wouldn't expect them to post there prices or do business in a thread therefore you mays well skip posting it in a thread and go direct to the source

[Sparksdisco]

i normally PM them or go to there website and either ring or email.......you mention you wouldn't expect them to post there prices or do business in a thread therefore you mays well skip posting it in a thread and go direct to the source

I guess i'm just lazy and if someone wants a sale then they would do it.

Also I would like to make it a bit more "in house"
Because i'm up here a lot of people say it's free australia wide postage or australia wide postage is X amount. when it comes to brining it up here all that goes out the window:mad::mad::mad:
That's why if i do it through AULRO it would make it a bit more eaiser for me to sort that out before going to vendors websites and being disapointed at the other end.

[incisor]

don't see too many positives in the idea myself to be frank.

and some suppliers have requested we not allow their pricing to be posted online as it causes them way too many issues so that would skew things.

in principle not a bad idea, but add humans and it will go to crap at 100mph like similar things tried in the past.

[Hoges]

If you are contemplating a container load of stuff you need to know which bits are needed, how many of each etc etc. You may be looking at least $50k for the contents and another $3-4k for the container. Then there's import duty on the contents. All up you might be looking at part with $60 thou. Borrowing that amount from the bank on an overdraft etc you'd be looking at perhaps 12%... (guesstimate only) so you have $7-8k pa jusdt in standing costs.

I do agree with you however at the apparent over-the-top prices. I just went hunting for a timing belt kit for the wife's ASTRA (2005 model). A Gates kit with water pump is $250 posted to Aus. Double that at the usual suspects...

We don't have the market to support high turnover/ low margin inventory.

P38 EAS compressors are around $550-600 here. Same part from UK >$350 delivered. Talking to the distributor...they can't buy them here for that from Dunlop... and they're stuck with a dozen on the shelf until someone buys one!

So on the one hand I fret and fume ...then I look at it from the other side ---perhaps it's not so over-the-top in some cases after all...

[gromit]

I have often thought about starting a business of importing large amount of land rover parts from england in shipping containers to here and then selling them for a small profit but I dont think I really have the time or money to do that and in the ned I will probably be left with heaps of stock and end up no further ahead for my trouble

That's part of the reason things cost more here.
Pay similar price in the UK to what we can buy as an individual (maybe get a discount ?) cost of shipping, premises, wages, stock sitting on the shelf, warranty, complaints when you don't have something the customer needs plus all the Australian taxes, import duties etc.etc.

I'm not trying to justify the costs because they are excessive for some parts.

A while ago I approached a UK LR parts producer for a price on piston rings for a 6-cyl 2.6 motor. They passed the enquiry to their Australian agent and I was given a price.
For less money I could buy 6 pistons, rings etc. and get the block rebored locally !

Maybe a better approach would be if you are ordering from the UK and the amount is well below $1000 then order some extra parts and advertise on AULRO.
You could let people know you are ordering from the UK but you might then get inundated with lists of bits that are needed.


Colin

[juddy]

Interesting reading some of your views on overseas prices vs Australian prices.

Before I established my own business, I would always look here and the UK for the best price, and a lot of the time the Uk was a lot cheaper, but this should not be taken as a generalisation that Australian business are making a killing on parts, you cant compare the Uk with Australia on pricing, " Its a different country " so prices will be different, just like they are in every other country, a house is cheaper a car is cheaper , wages are less etc etc.

With the world wide web and E-commerce this means we can shop around for the best price, thus Australian business declines and the rest of the world gets richer.

I try and support Australian bussiness and we have our own range of products coming out over the coming months, but it is very difficult to match overseas pricing, nothing to do with profits, its just what it cost to make here. I agree if someone is selling at a 300% profit then get it from someone else, but I don't know anyone who does.

What a lot of people don't realise is, business's have to pay 15% on top of every order and the shipping too, so I manage to get a 20% discount from my supplier in the UK, great! not really less the 15% and my time etc, I make nothing, thus the customer can get the item the same price as me, work that one out.

My solution is to make even less profit and make my own beer.

Australian manufacturing should be supported, and Landybitz are supporting local manufacturing when ever we can, we are looking into exporting a number of high quality Australian designed Land Rover parts in the coming months, if we can achieve this I will be very proud.

I am also pushing my UK suppliers to lower there export pricing, UK companies don't have to pay 15% duty on imports. A lot don't understand the small market we have, and theres no way you can justify having large amounts of stock on the shelf, that could take years to sell.

Its very difficult.

[TD50WA]

Interesting reading some of your views on overseas prices vs Australian prices.

Before I established my own business, I would always look here and the UK for the best price, and a lot of the time the Uk was a lot cheaper, but this should not be taken as a generalisation that Australian business are making a killing on parts, you cant compare the Uk with Australia on pricing, " Its a different country " so prices will be different, just like they are in every other country, a house is cheaper a car is cheaper , wages are less etc etc.

With the world wide web and E-commerce this means we can shop around for the best price, thus Australian business declines and the rest of the world gets richer.

I try and support Australian bussiness and we have our own range of products coming out over the coming months, but it is very difficult to match overseas pricing, nothing to do with profits, its just what it cost to make here. I agree if someone is selling at a 300% profit then get it from someone else, but I don't know anyone who does.

What a lot of people don't realise is, business's have to pay 15% on top of every order and the shipping too, so I manage to get a 20% discount from my supplier in the UK, great! not really less the 15% and my time etc, I make nothing, thus the customer can get the item the same price as me, work that one out.

My solution is to make even less profit and make my own beer.

Australian manufacturing should be supported, and Landybitz are supporting local manufacturing when ever we can, we are looking into exporting a number of high quality Australian designed Land Rover parts in the coming months, if we can achieve this I will be very proud.

I am also pushing my UK suppliers to lower there export pricing, UK companies don't have to pay 15% duty on imports. A lot don't understand the small market we have, and theres no way you can justify having large amounts of stock on the shelf, that could take years to sell.

Its very difficult.

Hi Juddy

I appreciate the candid (without criticism) response to our posts. Personally I adopt the price plus shipping plus how long do I wait approach. If I can source in oz for near enough (obviously based upon the overall price) and I need it sooner rather than later, I will buy local in every instance. A couple of vendors (should they read these posts) will recognize my name so they know I am speaking the truth.
As I have my own business (food industry) I do understand your perspective. However, there are some things, sliders for instance, which do not need to be so highly priced. I'm referring to local manufactured ones, not terrafirma or other brands that have to bought in. Sliders can be made for equivalent to a few hundred dollars in England, now the steel is not that much more expensive here to justify the price wanted. This is gouging. I'm sure there are other circumstances where this is apparent too, and these are the situations where I personally get annoyed and it turns consumers away from other products from those vendors where the price might be reasonable.
Like most here, my money tree is suffering from lack of food and water, so the reality is, when considerable savings can be made, it's off overseas I go.

I will check out your store and support your business where I can of course, just on principle.

Cheers mate
Kev.

[juddy]

Your Example of rock sliders is a very good one.

We are launching our own range very soon, now to be competitive we will be marketing our range with prices similar to Mulgo. As for his rock sliders being overly expensive I comment on that, but people dont seem to have negative comments about his products, and I believe his are manufactured here to a very high standard.

We will have some lower end standard priced ones, and some higher end more expensive ones, these are more expensive because they are very different and unique.

Theres still the issue of UK made ones costing less, due to the economical situation of that country, and labour, materials etc is less there than it is here.

Another factor is the supplier, I am trying my best to get pricing down, so we can better meet the UK sourced parts, but that is something I have no control over.

I do believe we can manufacture some very quality parts, and alot of the time, these are more suited to the Australian conditions, alot of the UK parts for example spare wheel carriers, are not designed to take a bashing in the bush, some locally produced ones are way superior in quality that the Uk ones.

Another thing the UK has in its favour is theres hundreds of companies making all manner of parts, so pricing can stay lower.

I was recently researching prices for said item, and I could get it here, sell it to the customer and make a small profit, better than I could from the wholesaler, begs the question are they making a huge profit, or have they got a poor wholesale price too.


We can only try our best, some things we can be competitive on other not, at least the customer has the choice of buying from a number of different companies.