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29dinosaur
18th January 2013, 10:42 AM
I'm sure there'd be a few flying nutters out there in AULRO world who'd enjoy these pics...:D


Lower than a snakes belly in a wagon rut... (http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php'topic=27189.0)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/01/619.jpg

Epic_Dragon
18th January 2013, 01:44 PM
love that picture! wish was the one flying it and making people spill their coffee!

JDNSW
18th January 2013, 02:43 PM
Actually there is a section called "Flight", which is where this probably should be!

John

MEANZ06
18th January 2013, 02:43 PM
Cockpit View: Low flyby. [VIDEO] (http://www.wimp.com/viewcockpit/)

coupla screen shots from that vid...


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/01/614.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/01/615.jpg


:o

disco2hse
18th January 2013, 03:12 PM
Great pic this one:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/01/603.jpg

Here is some footage I took of de Havilland DH 98 Mosquito ZK-MOS, flying low and fast.

Mosquito Launch 9 September, 2012 - YouTube

Alan

bob10
19th January 2013, 07:19 AM
Great pic this one:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/01/603.jpg

Here is some footage I took of de Havilland DH 98 Mosquito ZK-MOS, flying low and fast.

Mosquito Launch 9 September, 2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH4V0UdY7XM)

Alan
I think they have Rolls Royce engines, gotta love the sound, Bob

Bushie
19th January 2013, 02:54 PM
Great clip of a low flying spitfire, but unfortunately will get deleted if I post

search "low flying spitfire reporter" on youtube


Martyn

Disco Muppet
19th January 2013, 03:05 PM
One of my dads mates uncles took an old Vampire for a slightly not permitted test flight skimming the tops of the waves :angel:

disco2hse
20th January 2013, 04:34 AM
I think they have Rolls Royce engines, gotta love the sound, Bob

Merlin x 2. The sound is enough to take your breath away.

Reads90
20th January 2013, 06:35 AM
Great clip of a low flying spitfire, but unfortunately will get deleted if I post

search "low flying spitfire reporter" on youtube


Martyn

Yeah that's a great clip and really really low flying.

newhue
20th January 2013, 07:46 AM
Amazing the contrast in speed of that low jet. From the pilot's perspective it looks quite slow and controlled. But from the guys on the ground, they barley have time to jump.
Love the way when he pulls up it says MAX G on the screen.

Been lucky enough to see two F1-11's sneak around the head land at Stradbroke Island, so low, slow, and close I though I could almost touch them.
Then the same thing happened on Spicers Peak above Cunninghams Gap. The boys doing a low slow fly along the The Great Divide west of Brisbane. Thought I almost made eye contact they were so close. Just amazing when there so big and real.

newhue
20th January 2013, 07:55 AM
Great clip of a low flying spitfire, but unfortunately will get deleted if I post

search "low flying spitfire reporter" on youtube


Martyn

Bushie, one day soon, and perhaps if the edgits ever pass through Brisbane on a tour somewhere, I'll have to take you up to the in-laws.
The old boy is mounting two RR motors on trailers. One a Merlin Mrk 11 (the motor that won the war so to speak) and a Griffin 6 I think. Both Spitfire donks, and both are huge.

When his finished I reckon it would be a good day with the yard full of Landies all watching these things rev up. Maybe an unofficial Defender Day type thing.

bob10
20th January 2013, 09:01 AM
When his finished I reckon it would be a good day with the yard full of Landies all watching these things rev up. Maybe an unofficial Defender Day type thing.

The Defender day would be watching a Hurricane fire up. Spitfire engines? definitely more a Discovery day, :angel: Bob

superquag
20th January 2013, 09:26 AM
Not at all, Old Chap. - More suited to the RRC crowd, as a goodly proportion of Fighter pilots were, shall we say of a mature vintage and from the 'Right' Families (at the start of the flap...)

I read somewhere that a board member of BP was in Spitfires...

bob10
20th January 2013, 05:47 PM
Not at all, Old Chap. - More suited to the RRC crowd, as a goodly proportion of Fighter pilots were, shall we say of a mature vintage and from the 'Right' Families (at the start of the flap...)

I read somewhere that a board member of BP was in Spitfires...
Sometimes the passage of time, blurs the facts. Most of the pilots were under 20 years old, most older men did not have the reflexes to handle modern air warfare, at that time. Perhaps most didn't have a vehicle to drive, but I would like to think if they did, it was fast little sporty model, Bob

http://www.raf.mod.uk/images/logoRAF.gif (http://www.raf.mod.uk/)


Who Were The Few

http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafcms/mediafiles/B3638089_5056_A318_A89FE43969BA2772.jpg Who Were The Few


Who Were “The Few”?
“Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few” said Prime Minister Winston Churchill in a speech to Parliament on 20th August 1940 as the Battle of Britain raged overhead.
It was not long before the press and radio of the day seized on the epithet as the collective noun for the RAF’s Fighter Command pilots and others who were struggling against almost insurmountable odds to claim victory over Germany’s Luftwaffe.
In order to launch Operation “Sealion”, Hitler’s planned invasion of Britain across the English Channel that would remove the last democratic obstacle to his domination of Europe, he had to destroy the RAF’s ability to attack his forces. Conquering or subduing Britain would also prevent the re-supply of Russia, his next intended target.
The average member of the British public in the Spring of 1940 probably thought of the typical RAF pilot as carefree, out for a good time, doing a bit of flying within a club setting and able to impress the ladies on a Saturday night with the lads.
In reality nothing was further from the truth, but as the Fleet Street adage goes: “never let the facts get in the way of a good story”. Wartime flying, piloting a 350 mph fighter daily to within an inch of your life, was in fact a deadly serious business requiring a cool head and a steady, calculating nerve. Only a fool would treat it casually as, if he did, he would soon be bounced by an Me 109 and become another name on a war memorial.
The average age of an RAF pilot in 1940 was about 20 years. Some were as young as 18 and there were others over 30. In those days, with the age of majority set at 21, many of the RAF’s Battle of Britain pilots were not old enough to vote but not too young to lay down their lives in the face of a life and death struggle to save Britain from coming under the tyranny of the Nazis.
Not all were British – in fact Fighter Command was a cosmopolitan mix. There were Poles (141), Czechs (87), Belgians (24) and Free French (13) who swelled the ranks along with those from the British Commonwealth and other nations who answered the call for pilots wanting to defend freedom.
Roughly two-thirds of the 3,000 or so RAF pilots who flew in the Battle of Britain were officers, the other third being sergeant and flight sergeant pilots.
In 1940 a pilot officer could expect to earn £264 per annum, roughly equivalent to just over £30,000 in today’s money, and non-commissioned officers quite a bit less, despite facing the same dangers: both received an allowance (flying pay) recognising their aircrew status. In addition their numbers were beefed up with pilots from the Auxiliary Air Force (AAF) – made up those from the largely middle and upper classes who trained at weekend (hence they earned the nickname “weekend warriors”), who provided a civilian pool of extra capability during emergencies.
One fighter squadron – 601 (County of London) Sqn was known as the “Millionaires’ mob” because it was formed by a group of wealthy aristocrats. But on the outbreak of war the AAF was subsumed into the RAF and its squadrons became normal frontline squadrons.
Other sources of manpower were the University Air Squadrons (UASs), created to attract young talent to the Service, and the Volunteer Reserve (RAFVR).
http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafcms/mediafiles/5A2FCEDD_5056_A318_A8834D46A34066B5.jpg
Outnumbered 5 to 1 by both machine and men, RAF pilots had radar and one significant other advantage over the Germans – they were defending their homeland. If a pilot crashed or baled out over land he was likely to be over friendly territory. It was an altogether different story for a German pilot. Once they had left the shores of northern Europe they were in hostile skies for nearly the rest of the sortie. During engagements they could easily run short of fuel since no German aircraft in 1940 had been designed with long range operations in mind.
The cost of the Battle was high – of the nearly 3,000 aircrew who fought in the Battle of Britain 544 lost their lives and of the remainder a further 814 died before the end of the War. The Battle of Britain Monument on the Victoria Embankment, London, records the names of the 2,936 flyers from the 15 nations who flew for Britain in the Battle.
Said Winston Churchill: "The gratitude of every home in our island, in our Empire and indeed throughout the world, except in the abodes of the guilty, goes out to the British airmen, who, undaunted by odds, unwearied in their constant challenge and mortal danger, are turning the tide of the world war by their prowess and devotion.
"Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few."
Today about 125 aircrew who flew in the Battle are alive and scattered around the globe. Most are members of the Battle of Britain Fighter Association

newhue
21st January 2013, 11:37 AM
The Defender day would be watching a Hurricane fire up. Spitfire engines? definitely more a Discovery day, :angel: Bob


Not at all, Old Chap. - More suited to the RRC crowd, as a goodly proportion of Fighter pilots were, shall we say of a mature vintage and from the 'Right' Families (at the start of the flap...)

I read somewhere that a board member of BP was in Spitfires...

Na, I reckon your both are wrong. A Defer is as classie as a Spitfire, afterall they are both full of rivits. But is also just deserving in the workshop next the motor, as they probably need fixing.
The RR's and Discos can have high tea whetever the want.

Lotz-A-Landies
21st January 2013, 12:32 PM
...The old boy is mounting two RR motors on trailers. One a Merlin Mrk 11 (the motor that won the war so to speak) and a Griffin 6 I think. ...Merlin 2 or Merlin XI? I didn't think the Merlin "eleven" went into production

The 1030 hp Merlin II (2) was the first production Merlin engine in 1937 (Hurricane Mk/Spitfire MkI), but was superseded by 1310 hp the Merlin III (3) in 1938 (Hurricane Mk/Spitfire MkI) and subsequently by 1150 hp Merlin XII (12) in Spitfire MkII from 1939.

So while it may have been the Merlin engine which won the battle of Britain it was the Merlin II, Merlin III and Merlin XII combined.

BTW the De Havilland DH.98 "Mosquito" used the 1233 hp Merlin 76/77.

Firefish
21st January 2013, 06:26 PM
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/petert.pandm/RhodesianCanberra.jpg

Just the link I'm afraid, but an interesting shot of a Rhodesian Airforce Canberra bomber flying through an aircraft hanger.

Ferret
21st January 2013, 10:28 PM
Just the link I'm afraid ...

Here's your pic mate. That's guys crazy and I don't just mean the pilot.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/petert.pandm/RhodesianCanberra.jpg

Firefish
21st January 2013, 10:34 PM
Thanks for that :)
Given how few aircraft the Rhodies had, with sanctions and a bush war and all, you'd think they would have been a little more circumspect about such antics.

newhue
22nd January 2013, 10:44 AM
Merlin 2 or Merlin XI? I didn't think the Merlin "eleven" went into production

The 1030 hp Merlin II (2) was the first production Merlin engine in 1937 (Hurricane Mk/Spitfire MkI), but was superseded by 1310 hp the Merlin III (3) in 1938 (Hurricane Mk/Spitfire MkI) and subsequently by 1150 hp Merlin XII (12) in Spitfire MkII from 1939.

So while it may have been the Merlin engine which won the battle of Britain it was the Merlin II, Merlin III and Merlin XII combined.

BTW the De Havilland DH.98 "Mosquito" used the 1233 hp Merlin 76/77.

Hmmm, at the risk of digging myself a hole, according the the father inlaw one is a Merlin 25 series, and the other a Griffin 58 series with the contravening propellers. Given the Merlin was never fitted to an aircraft, it was probably supplied to the Australian Air Force as a spare for a Mosquito. The Griffin also never fitted to a plane can only be for a late model spitfire aircraft. Il get some pics next time I go visiting. He has just taken delivery propellers and drive gear for both donks. Bit hard finding parts for a spitfire these days.

Speaking of hard parts to find, when are you selling me a PTO for a lt230. What's a girl going to do with so many in the shed.

Lotz-A-Landies
22nd January 2013, 11:22 AM
Hmmm, at the risk of digging myself a hole, according the the father inlaw one is a Merlin 25 series, and the other a Griffin 58 series with the contravening propellers. Given the Merlin was never fitted to an aircraft, it was probably supplied to the Australian Air Force as a spare for a Mosquito. The Griffin also never fitted to a plane can only be for a late model spitfire aircraft. Il get some pics next time I go visiting. He has just taken delivery propellers and drive gear for both donks. Bit hard finding parts for a spitfire these days.Speaking of hard parts to find, when are you selling me a PTO for a lt230. What's a girl going to do with so many in the shed.I seem to remember that the Griffon engines were fitted to special RAF Lincolns (or maybe Lancasters) used by 617 squadron for "grand slam" bombs late in the war. Will have to read the Paul Brickhill book again.

They were also used in the developmental CAC-15, so maybe when production was cancelled this engine was surplus from RAAF stores.

Did the RAAF ever use the Griffon powered Tempest?

Avion8
22nd January 2013, 11:26 AM
Hi Jason,

The Griffon with contra-rotating props is most likely from an Avro Shackleton, don't recall seeing them on single engine aircraft, but then I was young when a stand in R-R FSR at Lossiemouth in the mid to late seventies. Now there is a true Land Rover aircraft, all the birdstrikes were on the trailing edges, & it was described rather unkindly as 20,000 rivets flying along in loose formation!

As for the Canberra, he was just cleaning out the hangar! Saved a FOD (Foreign Object Damage) plod.

Cheers Nigel

newhue
22nd January 2013, 07:47 PM
might just bow out here before you good blokes make a bigger goose out of me more than I can. Apologies for misdirecting the thread as well.

Just before I go though, this is the general idea of what turns him on.
http://<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/CUtMfwXAuB8'rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Sorry cant get the link to work, if your interested type "Rolls Royce 12 cylinder Merlin Spitfire Engine (1200hp)" into you tube
And what I believe one of motors was for, or could go into.
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5959/grifin.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/132/grifin.jpg/)
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/632/griffin2.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/546/griffin2.jpg/)

superquag
26th January 2013, 10:51 PM
You mean this one ?

Contra Rotating Spitfire XIX - YouTube


... Or this one.

Spitfire Mk.XIX - YouTube

Bigbjorn
27th January 2013, 01:09 PM
That MyXIX has a Griffon. The bulges in the engine cover give this away. They are to accommodate the cam boxes of the larger Griffon.