onboard water tank

[harlie]

After an afternoon of kiting, it was decided that the Rangie needs a water tank to provide basic shower facilities. 15L should be enough.

Anyone fitted a bladder tank? Where?

[Homestar]

Geez Harlie. I thought you were going to show us what you had done...:D

[slug_burner]

You would be doing well to get two showers out of 15 L. That amount of water is not much, I don't know if bladders come in that size. I slip a 100 L bladder into the foot well of the rear seats of my defender. I use it mostly for drinking and use river or other local water for showers and washing up. I got the bladder and the hose fittings from a chandler.

[CBH25]

yep im interested in a good solution for this too.

[Laurie]

Harlie
Have you looked at these ?

Flexi Tank Water Tanks | ARB 4x4 Accessories (http://www.arb.com.au/products/general-accessories/flexi-tank/)

FLEXI TANK (http://www.bta4wd.com/category557_1.htm)

What will determine how much you really want is ; Do you tour with the back seat down ? if so this is a viable setup if you do a lot of touring or 1 big trip !

Details
Home (http://www.lilongwedown.com/LilongweDown/Home.html)

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Expedition RR - a set on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/raymondgreaves/sets/72157629383315476/)

Laurie

[harlie]

You would be doing well to get two showers out of 15 L.
.....


Easy! Plenty of boating & bush camping taught us how to shower on little water. Just want to rinse off, I'm not a teenage girl washing my hair....

In 2008 with the family (mrs & 2 small kids) we ventured off-shore again in our 12m sailing Cat. Ended up sheltering at a beautiful sandy island quite a lot of miles from anywhere while it blew 40-50kns, it was over 40kn for 10 days, (even though it was forecast for 1) - don't worry it is a very nice spot and the fishing was great! By the time we sailed back in to civilization we had been out for 17 days. Total water capacity was 500L for galley washing and bathing (drinking water in separate tanks), everyone bathed every day and the girls washed hair about every 5th (we're not animals) - do the sums.... Wash off in sea and it only takes a couple litres to rinse off if you have the right nozzle. And there was just over 50L still in that tank when we sailed in.

Admittedly a Water Maker went to the top of the want list after that trip, but mainly for weight, we would leave port with a bit over 1100kg of water onboard. Add that to the 800+kg of supplies + personal belongings ect and she sailed quite sluggish for some reason :D but man we had some great holidays and adventures offshore. Planning on going back to it when the kids are older (and we can leave them behind :lol2:).

Anyway, who said two showers?

Back on track. What about under the bonnet? Would be nice to have a filler located under the bonnet (kids can fill it), not keen about other solutions I've read about with filler in the boot or under carpet or above carpet in the case of footwell bladders. I want something permanent, a bladder in the footwell isn't going to work, it has to be fitted ready to go with no notice and knocking out seating capacity is not on.

This is not for a tour, I have a camper for trips away with large water capacity. We have kids so the seats aren't coming out. This is for a quick rinse off at the beach before packing up the kite, on a Saturday arv, like yesterday - or a Thursday arv when I'm crapped off with work for that mater.

[harlie]

Geez Harlie. I thought you were going to show us what you had done...:D

Give me a bit of time. Wind was still going until dark yesterday :p

[Laurie]

Harlie
Maybe a sill tank ? or one of these behind the back seat (40ltr) and easily removable !

http://www.dolium.com.au/libraries/resources/Brochures_Flyers/03a%20Poly%20Water%20Tanks.pdf

Laurie

[harlie]

Harlie
Maybe a sill tank ? or one of these behind the back seat (40ltr) and easily removable !

http://www.dolium.com.au/libraries/resources/Brochures_Flyers/03a%20Poly%20Water%20Tanks.pdf

Laurie
50t looks interesting. Have to check my fridge will still fit, but up against the back seat made out of solid material so stuff can be put against/on top is definitely worth a good look.

I would prefer something that is hidden has no change to the current layout; there is a ton of space behind the LH rear quarter panel. Would need to relocate the AMP, but it is the only thing in there in mine. Have to be able to fit a Landcruiser bladder in there surely.

[CBH25]

Are there any that would fit in the spare wheel well?
Surely a bladder the same shape as a tire tube would fit in perfectly and be nice and low and out of the way....
If it was just me Id fill up a tyre tube, but SWMBO would complain about the rubber taste:D

I could put the spare on the roof rack and this would be perfect....
Ive looked and cant find one, if anyone knows of one, let me know please!

[CBH25]

If there's not a circular bladder for the spare wheel well, this could sit on the floor in the cargo area?

4WD Water Tank - 80L (http://www.kulkyne.com/au/Under-Tray-Water-Tank-80L.html#info)
The dimensions are:
Width: 805mm
Height: 120mm
Length: 1070mm

Can anyone tell me if this will fit in a L322?
I cant measure mine is in the hospital getting a new Auto installed ($5,500.......)

Thanks

[slug_burner]

Are there any that would fit in the spare wheel well?
Surely a bladder the same shape as a tire tube would fit in perfectly and be nice and low and out of the way....
If it was just me Id fill up a tyre tube, but SWMBO would complain about the rubber taste:D

I could put the spare on the roof rack and this would be perfect....
Ive looked and cant find one, if anyone knows of one, let me know please!

If your going to use a bladder in the spare wheel well, the shape does not matter you just fill it to expand to fill the space, It just means that you may have to buy a bladder that is a bit bigger than the amount of water that you can put into it. I used one of these

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/01/407.jpg

I plumbed two hoses to the inlet/outlet ports, that way I could fill the bladder or take some water by just pulling the appropriate hose out of the car, saved on spills ( not that the defender has carpets:p)


https://www.whitworths.com.au/main_itemdetail.asp?cat=133&item=85038&intAbsolutePage=1

But this is all you probably need if you're prepared to drink from an inner tube

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/01/408.jpg

https://www.whitworths.com.au/main_itemdetail.asp?cat=133&item=37481&intAbsolutePage=1

Harlie will come up with something a bit neater.

like this
http://www.australiandirect.com.au/assets/alt_4/BlueKit.jpghttp://www.australiandirect.com.au/assets/full/BlueKit.jpg

Just need to locate a tank, the pump and a heat exchanger and you can have a warm shower.

They have a vid of the installation and typical uses here:
In Vehicle Shower Kit with Blue Heat Exchanger (http://www.australiandirect.com.au/buy/in-vehicle-shower-kit-blue-heat-exchanger/BlueKit)

[CBH25]

Thanks, yeah you're probably right about any shape fitting in the wheel space.

I already have one of those heat exchangers fitted to the L322, so thats why Im looking for a good water storage onboard. Warm showers while camping:cool:

Thanks for the thoughts on the square flexitank.

[harlie]

If there's not a circular bladder for the spare wheel well, this could sit on the floor in the cargo area?

4WD Water Tank - 80L (http://www.kulkyne.com/au/Under-Tray-Water-Tank-80L.html#info)
The dimensions are:
Width: 805mm
Height: 120mm
Length: 1070mm

Can anyone tell me if this will fit in a L322?
I cant measure mine is in the hospital getting a new Auto installed ($5,500.......)

Thanks

I measure 1050 across between the wheels and just under 1m front to back

What Slug says about the bladder is right. For the boat, I just boxed up available space and let the bladder push out against the sides. 200L bladder is holding about 160L. In the wheel well you have the compressor, wouldn't want to block off air flow for cooling.