looking at buying freelander. need advice

[LoveB]

hey all, looking at buying a freelander 1.8 petrol manual which has had its propshaft removed due to a crook vcu.

Wont see the car till tomorrow so I cant quite describe it yet but seller told me transmission has a bit of a whine. What should I be looking at? Not sure if entire propshaft was removed or what at this stage I'll have to find out tomorrow.

But wondering as to what I should look out for that would cause the noise after removing the propshaft? could the vcu still be on it? could the locking up on the vcu ruin the IRD then ruin the spline in the gearbox or what? hopefully its a simple fix as I dont really have the $$$$ to spend on a whole new drivetrain. Thanks




Paul

[camel_landy]

If it is still wining after having the prop removed, chances are that the IRD is stuffed... $$$

M

[LoveB]

hmmm. Can I remove the IRD and run the car that way? if so how hard would that be to do?


after having a read it appears I cant. wonder where I can get a cheap IRD. if not I suppose I'll have to pass on this FL :(


http://forum.landrovernet.com/showthread.php/148172-Freelander-IRD-Unit-transfer-box
however on that it says i can. Confused lol

[BigJon]

h as I dont really have the $$$$ to spend on a whole new drivetrain. Thanks

Paul

Which also means you don't have the $$ to spend on a new engine either. Steer clear of 1.8 petrol Freelanders.

[LoveB]

was told that the gaskets and such have been replaced... but had a friend with an mg with a k engine who told me they blow gaskets on a yearly basis lol

[Scouse]

was told that the gaskets and such have been replaced... but had a friend with an mg with a k engine who told me they blow gaskets on a yearly basis lolYep, the gaskets aren't the real problem. If the liners have moved, then you'll get very good at pulling the engine down.

[loanrangie]

Which also means you don't have the $$ to spend on a new engine either. Steer clear of 1.8 petrol Freelanders.

I reckon all FL1's but some like the TD4.

[101RRS]

hmmm. Can I remove the IRD and run the car that way? if so how hard would that be to do?




NO - the IRD is a combined unit that contains the front diff and the PTO to the rear. No Ird means the nothing connected to the front wheels.

I would really suggest you give this car a wide berth.

Garry

[LoveB]

Bout to go check the car out... I'll report back with a video of some sort D: its judgement day lol

[LoveB]

hmmm where to begin. lol

looked at the car earlier. it looked good. looked really good actually. upon starting it up the engine purred. all sounded good. until I tried to move it. It's a bit hard to describe but I'm sure you know where this is going.

it moves but the front end feels like it skips. basically I think the ird is stuffed. my only way to describe it at the moment is it feels like its jumping gears or something. maybe the teeth have come off. it doesnt make noise and all that. but its hard to move forward and back. like its seized or something.

is it even worth trying to save at this stage? he wants 500$ for it with rego till march but where to find the parts. I saw a freelander being wrecked for 500 so maybe thats got a good ird lol

[woko]

It will depend if you can repair the IRD yourself of find a cheap 2nd hand one. Usually when the IRDs fail the bearings on the crown wheel fail causing the crown wheel and pinion to unmesh and ripping teeth from both. This is caused from the viscous coupling in the prop shaft failing.

When this happens you can repair them and you have to options for this. You can either just replace the bearings and remove the pinion and either make a plate to seal off the hole it will leave or buy a blanking plate like this

LAND ROVER FREELANDER IRD BLANKING PLATE TRANSFER UNIT | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-FREELANDER-IRD-BLANKING-PLATE-TRANSFER-UNIT-/230635496620?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35b2f264ac)

Doing it this way it will only be a 2wd and run on the front wheels.

You can buy the crown wheel and pinion and replace these when replacing the bearings like this

Freelander IRD Crown-wheel Pinion For Transfer Unit LAND ROVER | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Freelander-IRD-Crown-wheel-Pinion-For-Transfer-Unit-LAND-ROVER-/181058052251?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2a27e6a09b)

This will give you the option of refitting the prop shaft at a later date when the viscous coupling has been replaced.

[LoveB]

asked around for an IRD.... 800$ so no go. I found a disco 1 with a blown head gasket for 600 lol