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Blknight.aus
2nd February 2013, 07:21 PM
Mechanical injection wins Full stop end of story, no correspondance will be entered into.

Heres why.

I've just spend the last week out behind Chinchilla on the closed section of the mythical part of the warrego highway thats not between brisbane and toowoomba. (according to the pollies the warrego opened on tuesday, it was on the news complete with a map of brisbane-toowoomba)

Stayed over night in chinchilla, Tanked off in Roma. stayed there the night expecting the roads to open they didnt so I topped up and headed for charleville. Got there with under half a tank. got in wednesday lunchish went to refill on thursday but lo, no diesel. The Trucks might be here on saturday morning. I start calling places on the way out.. First place that could guarantee Diesel was Chinchilla, Not good, with a trailer on the fuel I had doesnt give the range for that even including the emergancy jerry..

on the treadly and round charleville I go, get all the WVO I can find, filter it through a Tshirt, get it into the tank and good to go. Blocked the filter before morven, (lets be fair, it was due changing during the last service but I skipped it and put the filter into the "not to be removed from the vehicle box") Swapped the filter on the side of the road and drove onto chinchilla.

ahh par for the course for the vege oil burner.

Slunnie
2nd February 2013, 07:38 PM
Love it! :D

sheerluck
2nd February 2013, 07:39 PM
And only the smell of frying chips for company the whole way :D

Graeme
2nd February 2013, 07:49 PM
get all the WVO I can findCheaper than the kero needed for a TD5 too.

inside
2nd February 2013, 08:01 PM
If I was in that situation I would call RACQ. If they had no fuel they would put me in a hotel until they could get me some.

Blknight.aus
2nd February 2013, 08:17 PM
That doesnt get you home. We rolled back to charleville as we had free accommodation and food at the In laws.

SWMBO hit all the dentists and health care places on the way back to charleville (thats why we stopped in Roma on the way back rather than blowing through and saving the $$ for accommodation) and lined up some more work for the next run. We're writing off the whole thing on her business and given that her phone was ringing off every hour or so on the way back we're calling it a short term loss, long term gain.

roverrescue
2nd February 2013, 08:29 PM
Dave,
I love your take on life!
Your story made me smile in what has been a sub-optimal week...
Thanks,

Steve

Blknight.aus
2nd February 2013, 08:43 PM
reminds me, I need to get your address so I can send you a compressor.

need anything else?

roverrescue
2nd February 2013, 09:17 PM
what else is on offer? Perhaps me finding a little peace and getting some friggen sleep if you are offering ;)

PM coming your way...


S

Davo
2nd February 2013, 11:07 PM
That's a great example of how modern stuff is better . . . until conditions aren't so good anymore.

blue_mini
2nd February 2013, 11:51 PM
Love it, you just cant beat a direct injection mechanical diesel sometimes. In fact that's wrong, you can't beat one any of the time.

uninformed
3rd February 2013, 11:15 AM
what vehicle was this in?

Blknight.aus
3rd February 2013, 01:54 PM
The wifes disco.

uninformed
3rd February 2013, 03:11 PM
Would a normal td5 get better mileage given the same conditions?

Blknight.aus
3rd February 2013, 03:30 PM
yes, the td5 runs more economically than the tdi right up till you start looking at KM/L diesel (or KM/$) and the fact that the tdi doesnt have to have diesel to run.

one of the things I love lambasting the gaywagon (and pumas and toyotas and pretty much every poofter posers modern 4x4) over is their woeful economy. Km/L(diesel) my old series and the wifes disco has them beat hands down of course I dont usually tell them at the start that both those vehicles generally run on anything but diesel so while my over all KM/L may actually be worse the cost per KM is almost always in my favor (until you start counting tilt tray KMs as well, then Im screwed again).

uninformed
3rd February 2013, 04:42 PM
would a td5 disco have not had the fuel shortage problem due to its range on full tank given the same conditions.

I agree with what you are saying, but those modern 4wds are making more power per litre and moving heavier vehicles, so maybe those engines are better, just the package and what people expect from them is different.

djam1
3rd February 2013, 04:47 PM
Dave I agree with the sentiment and spirit of the original post
Personally I would of just carried enough fuel :p

Blknight.aus
3rd February 2013, 05:04 PM
I left ippy with a full tank and 100+l in jerries(one from dry refill for the car and 1 spare) in the trailer. for a 1400k w/trailer trip I had considered that more than ample (and was on par to make it back with . It turned into about a 2300K trip with headwinds for more than 1300K of it

When we decided to return from chinchilla to charleville It was quatering headwinds all the way back , I put about 50l in in roma the wind was bad enough that in sections I wasnt game to hold 5th due to the buffetting of the car and the amount of pedal I was needing to not hold 105kph. It took me more fuel to go back from roma to charleville than it had taken to do charleville- chinchilla

The way back from charleville was the same quatering headwinds for 700Km

Peeved me a little bit as the first run out to charleville was pretty good and we averaged near 11l/100 for the trip out and on the first leg back with the same wind blowing as a rear quatering wind and slow traffic (construction works, lots of overloaded road trains) we were on par for probably 8.5-9l/100 I still had over half a tank showing when we hit chinchilla .

2stroke
3rd February 2013, 05:17 PM
I did a run to Chinchilla on tuesday night to pick up the son and father in law as that was as close as they could get on a rather long and painful trip back from Rocky on random closed roads. Just headed back out on Saturday to retrieve the rodeo ute they left at the golf club car park. Could easily have fitted a couple more people in if I had known. As long as you don't mind touring around in a Tdi 130 ?
Oh and funny enough I passed a neat original looking Series 1 LWB with a proper tub and canvas canopy on the back, reckon he must have been sitting on about 100 km/h... respect to him!

Blknight.aus
3rd February 2013, 05:29 PM
would a td5 disco have not had the fuel shortage problem due to its range on full tank given the same conditions.

I agree with what you are saying, but those modern 4wds are making more power per litre and moving heavier vehicles, so maybe those engines are better, just the package and what people expect from them is different.

not that much better...... from when I was running a td5 its in the order of .5l/100 better in about the same circumstances.

even if ID had a td5 the extra piffling of economy it gets would still have had the fuel range out the window on this trip.