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Steve223
3rd February 2013, 10:05 AM
Hi Together,

Just realized that the way the site mirrors show the blind spot on both of my D3's are quite different, the HSE mirror has a huge blind spot so I nearly took out the car next to me, being used to the D3 S which seems to have a much, much small blind spot.

Are there different type of mirrors? I would have thought that a car how can light around the corner in curves and has all the bells and whistles would not have a huge blind spot in it's mirrors.

Regards

Steve

Graeme
3rd February 2013, 10:23 AM
Has someone replaced a convex mirror with a flat one?

Steve223
3rd February 2013, 11:23 AM
Has someone replaced a convex mirror with a flat one?

Hm just picked the car up last week, where can I purchase the convex somewhere like autobarn or super cheap or do I need to go to LR?

djambalawa
3rd February 2013, 11:33 AM
I'd say someone replaced it ... I replaced my d3 side mirror once and the parts department gave me the option of the default wider angle or a flat one... I thought I'd prefer the one that doesn't distort the view but I found I was very wrong... cost me more again to go back to the convex/concave version..

So yeah I suspect it's just that too

Tombie
4th February 2013, 12:09 AM
You could think back to your L's...

And turn your neck :p

Geedublya
4th February 2013, 06:06 AM
Only motorcyclists turn their neck. Car drivers don't need to look.

Redback
4th February 2013, 06:53 AM
You could think back to your L's...

And turn your neck :p

Why do you need to look back to your Ls, you should have never forgot it and should be still doing it;)

An old driving instructor once told me, when he had a student, he would say to them when they were doing their driving test "this will be the best you'll ever drive"

Baz.

Steve223
4th February 2013, 06:19 PM
Yes, but just a matter how far I have to turn my head ;-), convex 35 degree flat mirror 90 degrees

Steve223
4th February 2013, 06:20 PM
Ordered the concaved ones from UK does someone know how to remove them?

Just pull?

Tombie
4th February 2013, 06:30 PM
Yes, but just a matter how far I have to turn my head ;-), convex 35 degree flat mirror 90 degrees

Driver training says 90° :cool:

Never trust a mirror!

jonesy63
4th February 2013, 06:50 PM
Remember "MIST":

Mirrors
Indicate
Shoulders
Turn

Just finished 120 hours training son on L's... and three daughters before that!

:)

TeamFA
5th February 2013, 11:10 AM
Only motorcyclists turn their neck. Car drivers don't need to look.

Ha! As somebody who commutes on a bike every day, I used to be inclined to agree... sadly, though, these days most motorcyclists I see are also guilty of not doing a head-check...

Geedublya
5th February 2013, 11:43 AM
They will learn or get squashed.

My experience is that (most) bike riders look (much) further ahead, turn their head before changing lanes, have much better situation awareness and are much more fussy about vision (ie dirty windows and windscreens, stickers obstructing vision and dangly things on mirrors).

Disco44
6th February 2013, 12:19 AM
Only motorcyclists turn their neck. Car drivers don't need to look.

Steering wheel attendants and there are plenty around, need to turn their necks, not real drivers.

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Steve223
7th February 2013, 09:21 AM
Just received my mirror from the UK (cost around $40 incl shipping) removed old one without problem but when trying to fit new one broke it :mad:!

Called Trivett to quickly source new one and they quoted me AU$136 that is s a joke how we get ripped off here.

Need to get new my old one fitted but don't want to break it either any suggestions??

tried the soft way and medium way for around 10 minutes but just could not get it to properly clip on is there something I'm missing?

Steve223
7th February 2013, 10:12 AM
Ok I answer my own question;

After i was told by a LR specialist it would require quite a bit of force to press mirror in (which broke it) I figured out the correct way:

To remove:

1. tilt mirror as much as possible to the inside
2. if you use a torch you see a lip on the bottom which you can un-clip with a screw driver the mirrow can then be removed with your hand's
3. Disconnect the two heating cables and remember which was where

To fit new one:

1. Connect cables
2. place upper smaller lip first and ensure rest is aligned properly (best done kneeing down and looking inside)
3. push bottom lip in (does not need to much force)

Quick video can be found here

Mirror Glas Replacemnet on LR Discovery 3 - YouTube

Cheers

Steve

trevorj
13th May 2013, 07:45 PM
Yep; I've had some interesting near misses as well - but no connects.
What intrigues me is that my D4 has a flat mirror on the pass. side, and a convex mirror on the drivers side. Does anybody have anything different as OEM? Seems to me to be wrong way around, and I'm wondering if I can lodge a warranty claim for incorrect fitting (from new) and get them swapped/replaced. I will have to fix the pass. one, or SWMBO will wipe out something soon...

disco gazza
16th May 2013, 03:34 PM
Its a bit hard to turn your head to see if there's anything in the inside lane when your driving a semi with a 48' trailer behind you..:wasntme:

cheers

scarry
17th May 2013, 07:38 PM
Its a bit hard to turn your head to see if there's anything in the inside lane when your driving a semi with a 48' trailer behind you..:wasntme:

cheers

Same if you drive a hiace around town with no side windows.

Sorry to say guys but the van has fantastic large mirrors that put the D4 mirrors to shame.....

wrinklearthur
17th May 2013, 09:50 PM
I wondered why at first but the series one we called 'HECter' has two internal mirrors and when I started reversing the second one came into play as it was pointed to see along side the near side, it works a treat.

More mirrors! I am going to copy the idea of some of the Japanese vans and place a mirror outside of the back window to help with reversing up to a trailer.

The other is one on the bull bar to see where the nearside wheel is, although I don't really need that one, as I annoy the SWMBO by squashing drinks cans on the road, by running them over with the near side wheel.
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scarry
18th May 2013, 06:47 AM
More mirrors! I am going to copy the idea of some of the Japanese vans and place a mirror outside of the back window to help with reversing up to a trailer


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Before you actually fit one of those mirrors,try to tape or tie one on temporarily as i don't find them much use.(but that could be just me)
Reversing camera's are very cheap these days and would be much better,i would think.The latest Hiace vans don't have the mirror anymore,they have a camera fitted.

wrinklearthur
18th May 2013, 07:07 AM
Before you actually fit one of those mirrors,try to tape or tie one on temporarily as i don't find them much use.(but that could be just me)
Reversing camera's are very cheap these days and would be much better,i would think.The latest Hiace vans don't have the mirror anymore,they have a camera fitted.

It must be the luddite coming out of me, anyway the camera wouldn't look right on 'HECter', it was built about 1955. :p
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sheerluck
18th May 2013, 07:26 AM
It must be the luddite coming out of me, anyway the camera wouldn't look right on 'HECter', it was built about 1955. :p
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In that case Arthur, you'd be best off with a full four man film crew with an 8mm camera, and a gramophone playing in the background :D

wrinklearthur
18th May 2013, 07:49 AM
In that case Arthur, you'd be best off with a full four man film crew with an 8mm camera, and a gramophone playing in the background :D

Jee's all that new stuff that would be flash, who would have thought of that.

But how does that stop the car along side you getting in the blind spot? :confused:
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sheerluck
18th May 2013, 07:52 AM
.......But how does that stop the car along side you getting in the blind spot? :confused:
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It doesn't, but at least you could see it in glorious Technicolour afterwards!

scarry
18th May 2013, 08:09 AM
It must be the luddite coming out of me, anyway the camera wouldn't look right on 'HECter', it was built about 1955. :p
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i thought of that but the part on the rear of the vehicle is that small,you would hardly notice it,the screen inside could be on a length of cable so it could be hidden out of site when not being used:)

wrinklearthur
18th May 2013, 08:11 AM
I am a SLOw person and that movie would be boring to watch.

As well as being Technicolour "yawn" .:oops2:
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wrinklearthur
18th May 2013, 08:15 AM
i thought of that but the part on the rear of the vehicle is that small,you would hardly notice it,the screen inside could be on a length of cable so it could be hidden out of site when not being used:)

Would that arrangement be a solution to the mirrors vibrating?
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scarry
18th May 2013, 11:36 AM
Would that arrangement be a solution to the mirrors vibrating?
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We can only hope.....:)