View Full Version : Damn, I've had it too easy of late....
rick130
7th February 2013, 08:55 AM
So the Land Rover Gods are reminding me that as long as I'm in this human form I too must endure what the Buddha called 'suffering'.
Yes, we know it as 'Land Rover ownership'
Bloody expansion tank has split.
Work up to my eyeballs.
14 voice mail messages.
Couldn't find the 20l drum of Platinum PG coolant. (after I left home I think I may have carted it up to the tractor shed in prep for its coolant change ?)
Tried wrapping the tank with silicon tape, but the split is on the guard side and apparently above the seam, so no go.
Found it when I stopped at the General Store 3km down the road.
I just undid the cap and it's worked for the 8km drive into town.
An order is being written up for Karcraft in between lines on here.
It could be a lot, lot worse.
No one has died, no one is injured, and I'm only being slightly inconvenienced.
Still,
Bloody cars. :D
[edit] Hmm, thinking about it, it's quite possibly a head gasket failure. Looks like it's going to be a head gasket/timing belt sort of weekend.
bismillah
7th February 2013, 09:33 AM
even there you say, it's a Land Rover? :D
steveG
7th February 2013, 09:36 AM
I've seen some reasonable temporary repairs done with epoxy putty after a bit of sanding to roughen the surface.
Worth a try if its not coping with the cap off.
Steve
uninformed
7th February 2013, 11:28 AM
even there you say, it's a Land Rover? :D
yes, but the Aussie version is "bloody Land Rover" :D
cheers,
Sergio
eddy
7th February 2013, 11:46 AM
If it's a 300tdi,the next leak will be the heater hose at the back of the head....then P gasket/water pump etc........keep a finger on its pulse.
Hope you have a low coolant alarm!
jimr1
7th February 2013, 12:44 PM
Hi rick , I think the Land Rover God must visit us one at a time . How long to get a new one from Karcraft ?. I snapped the nipple off my expantion tank a few weeks ago, I was lucky I picked one up local it only took about 15 minutes change over . At least your not out back of nowere when it happend . Do you think if you made an offering to the Land Rover Gods they would leave you alone , if so i would like to know , cheers jimr1 :D:D.
rick130
7th February 2013, 12:44 PM
Naa, heater hoses are relatively new and the top header tank on the heater had a major haemorrhage 12 months ago as I crested the range here.
As for the P gasket, it's been gushing when the cars turned off/cools down for months. (it's a metal one)
It'll get sorted over the weekend when a new timing belt/tensioner goes in.
Running with the cap loose is working ATM, there's only a dribble coming from the tank and I only have to do about another 30km today :D
Them there's tomorrow before the airbag arrives.....
roverrescue
7th February 2013, 01:31 PM
Rick let me know if you want...
I have a couple of dodgy old tanks, a beat up HG thats is blown through all pots, and a couple of banana style heads.
Im happy to send em your way to bolt on - that way you will truly get the shizzle with the 300 and finally zuzu the old 130!!!!
Best of luck with the tank - in my experience I reckon the fabled "tank failures" are generally occuring as a result of early HG failures. Just the plastic is the weakest link in a 15psi system.
Mental note for if you have to yank the head (might save you a swear word)
You will remove the air cleaner bracket, place it over in the corner of the shed so you dont trip over the bloody thing... then change out the HG torque everything down tickity-boo go to grab the air cleaner and bracket and realise that it is held onto the block by two of the head bolts! GRRRRRRR there goes all your tickity-boo torque down!
Smile
Steve
rick130
7th February 2013, 02:11 PM
Jim, deliveries from Karcraft are generally overnight.
They either use Toll Priority or Express Post and I think only one air bag has gone missing in eight years or so from them.
Deliveries from Newcastle take two days, so go figure.
I have an old 'sus but not leaking' black one here that was kept for such emergencies, but the loose rad cap is working OK ATM and tehre doesn't appear to be any bubbles in teh coolant either.
Steve, cheers for encouragement :D
And I remember the air cleaner bracket ATM, but in the heat of trying to screw everything back together ASAP, hmmmm.
You'll hear me from up there :D
JC has re-confirmed that the composite Elring HG I have in stock is preferable to an MLS one.
BTW I found the coolant, it was stored with the fuel drums, as you do.
Oh, and the paper wasps said hello too, I'm still smarting from their particular greeting :mad:
Now back to town to print out a couple of certificates of compliance someone requires from me.The printer has gone on strike too.
Hmm, offerings to deities, who can I sacrifice ? :angel:
Judo
7th February 2013, 02:14 PM
I really hate being slightly inconvenienced. :mad: :D
Also, living in a place like Australia is not bad.
roverrescue
7th February 2013, 10:40 PM
Hmm, offerings to deities, who can I sacrifice ?
How about a burnt offering of seven paper wasp nests...
10L garden spray pack with a dieso/petty brew works pretty good
depending on the substrate the mongrels have decided to nest on!
S
rick130
8th February 2013, 02:19 PM
Sigh.....
Australia Post strike again.
So much for Express Post being overnight.......
"What do you call someone that has a monumental coolant leak on a Tdi and keeps driving it ?"
"Stupid ?"
"No, Rick !" :angel:
steveG
8th February 2013, 03:58 PM
Sigh.....
Australia Post strike again.
So much for Express Post being overnight.......
"What do you call someone that has a monumental coolant leak on a Tdi and keeps driving it ?"
"Stupid ?"
"No, Rick !" :angel:
I'm sure you know what you're in for, so if it ends up really dead Isuzu right!
Steve
strangy
8th February 2013, 04:13 PM
Obviously there is more than one Land Rover god, or he/she/it has many minions.
I thought with Irish Mike_ie being around the malevolence was mainly directed at him and most would get clear run for a while:)
rick130
8th February 2013, 05:40 PM
Obviously there is more than one Land Rover god, or he/she/it has many minions.
I thought with Irish Mike_ie being around the malevolence was mainly directed at him and most would get clear run for a while:)
I'm no where in Mike's league for Murphy's intervention just yet :angel:
sheerluck
8th February 2013, 05:49 PM
"What do you call someone that has a monumental coolant leak on a Tdi and keeps driving?:
If I heard someone do that, I would call them a tow truck.
:D
DeanoH
8th February 2013, 06:15 PM
Playing with fire................... err water (or lack of it) here Rick, but you already know that. ;)
'Ignorance is bliss', they say but if you stuff the head it'll be worse 'cos you knew what you were doing (or not doing) in the first place. :) :wasntme:
I did a plastic welding job on my old black plastic tank with a 40 watt soldering iron and a bunch of cable tie off cuts. Worked OK, that is held pressure, for a couple of weeks before leaking again, then loosened cap whilst waiting for a replacement tank. But could have been a bit more agressive with the cable ties/soldering iron instead. What I did was weld up the split on the inside of the tank and tension a stainless steel Panduit 'cable tie' around the guts of the tank so it couldnt flex. :)
Something like this
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/02/1027.jpg
Look at the bright side.
You could have spent a whole day and demolished 18 of those @#!$%^&** stupid plastic panel clips on the rear door of a D1 to remove the wiper motor which you then disassembled and reconditioned to find that it is NORMAL for the rear wiper motor motor NOT to work when the drivers door is open (took 8 hours to make that connection), sigh .................... :p. But OK to wipe with the rear door open and to squirt washers into back with door open. :confused:
Who's a silly duffer then ? :lol2::lol2::lol2:
Good luck.
Deano :)
86mud
11th February 2013, 11:32 AM
I feel your pain Rick.....
as per my previous thread, it is only two years ago since I replaced my alternator and water pump.....now I am doing it again! I have gone beyond "bloody landrover". I just want reliability!
Sigh.....
rick130
11th February 2013, 11:48 AM
I feel your pain Rick.....
as per my previous thread, it is only two years ago since I replaced my alternator and water pump.....now I am doing it again! I have gone beyond "bloody landrover". I just want reliability!
Sigh.....
I feel your pain Andrew.
Just replaced the expansion tank, only just walked in to wash up, grab some lunch, finish a quote and deliver it, but as I said before I can't complain too loudly, the Tdi has been ok, I've been very lucky compared to some.
Alternator finally died a few months ago, as in it was only part charging. I didn't stuff around with a new reg and brushes, I just ordered a Disco 100amp one instead and installed it.
W/pump was changed around 70,000km or so ago and has been fine (touch wood) and I replaced the vac pump finally a few months back too, just too much oil everywhere. It had been bodged once already a very long time ago.
The big ends going ta ta's was a biggy but surprisingly not a show stopper, the rest of the engine survived, and I've had the heater burst but again I was lucky and didn't stuff the head.
Our GU Patrol has over 400,000km now and is virtually untouched, it just keeps trundling along, so, I'm going to start and acquire bits for a 4BD1T transplant, just not sure which way to go with the gearbox yet.
PAT303
11th February 2013, 03:09 PM
Rick,in another post you mentioned your Tdi will pull some impressive EGR and coolant temps pulling up hills and leaves the Patrol behind even though it's heavily loaded all the time,maybe you should put that load on the Patrol,wind the tune up and see how long it remains untouched?.Considering how it's driven and the work it does I think your being a tad hard with your critisism,neither a Cruiser or Patrol would have had their big ends replaced but both would have had much more,a lot more actually in repairs,thats not an opinion but a fact built on a lot of years repairing them. Pat
rick130
11th February 2013, 04:15 PM
Pat, yep, the tune on the Patrol is stock, but because of how retarded their pump timing is they do silly EGT's, and lets face it, the TD42T is a 'beefier' engine, it has more mass and a cast iron head, truck type water pump, bigger clutch etc, so it will take more of a caning.
BTW, I did say this ;)
but as I said before I can't complain too loudly, the Tdi has been ok, I've been very lucky compared to some.
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