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Lionelgee
7th February 2013, 10:36 AM
Hello All,

Does anyone on the AULRO forum have an approximate idea what the average dimensions of the Myer store in George Street main display windows are? I live in Queensland so it is a bit far to drive and measure.

I am going from memories taken from the perspective of a child holding one of my parents hands while looking up in awe at their Christmas Display windows. I somehow doubt if these dimensions translate to that of a mature person who can read a tape measure. I grew up in Goulburn and my family had relatives living in Sydney and we infrequently visited them during the Christmas retail period and it was a compulsory stop scheduled to inspect each year's Myers Christmas display. Why do I want to know you may ask?

I would like to add a comparison into my PhD on Asperger's Syndrome that paints a picture into the reader's mind - more importantly the examiner's mind. Most of my examiners will be from overseas so they may not know the approximate dimensions of a Myer’s window, so they would not appreciate the scale of the comparison. Okay so this is the Myers bit partly explained.

Georges Pierre Seurat was a French Post-Impressionist who used paint applied as dots to form his paintings such as A Sunday Afternoon on La Grande Jatte. Seurat's painting technique was a painstaking process.

Here is where the Autism bit comes into the picture - pardon the pun...

A number of parent's or relatives of children with Autism have described how their son or daughter has returned home from school and found that someone has cleaned up their room during their absence. The child has walked into their room and quickly fathomed that one of their Thomas the Tank Engines has been moved out of the orderly row in which they had left it. Then all of a sudden the child has had a meltdown and the wrath of Armageddon is visited upon the room. This is accompanied with cries of angst and other grief ridden and angry sounds. Wailing rent clothes - their head rotating horizontally at 360 degrees and green vomit issuing from their mouths. I think you might get the picture.

The parents may say - this came without any notice at all. My child seemed really calm in the car - earlier the teacher had said that they were okay in class - then upon walking into their room all hell literally broke loose. I do not know what triggered the meltdown it was so sudden.

So here is where the Myer window, Seurat's painting technique and Autism come together and also the importance of the dimensions of the front display windows at Myer's.

All day the child has been trying to weather all the confronting issues such as having to sit next to another child - who may have invaded their personal space, or unintentionally niggled them; people talking out of turn in class and the experiencing the general hubbub of the class room. Or at worst the child may have been bullied by the predators that seem to like the school yard. The child may have just only been hanging on. During each event they have been thinking back to the one place in the world where they have some control over and some sense of sanctuary - their bedroom. Each upset is soothed by the knowledge that when they get home from the troubles of a disorganised world they will be able to find a very neat and precise row of Thomas the Tank Engines waiting patiently for them.

According to people like Professor Temple Grandin people on the Autism Spectrum think in pictures and not words. So during the stresses of the day the child has been forming a mental picture of the scene where they walk into their room and see in their mind's eye all the Tank Engines organised just how they wanted them to be and how they had controlled their positioning. The Autistic picture in the mind has very fine detail. It is not a monochromatic picture nor is it a picture that used pixels. It is a picture that they have applied one single Seurat inspired dot which is strategically placed each time they return to the picture in their mind. This dot painting is done throughout the whole length of the school day. The dimension of the picture in their mind is not the size of a normal photograph. The picture in their mind is the size of a Myer's display window. Every detail of that picture in their mind has been covered by placing each dot of paint until there are no blank parts of the Myer's window.

So the child has held themselves together all day. They race out of the car and steer directly to their bedroom - sanctuary, then go and seek the confirmation that the world they have some control over is still as well ordered and complete as the picture they have been building in their brain all day. When they see that one or more of the Thomas the Tank engines has been moved they react to it. There has been an invader in their midst, the very small part of life they feel they have some control over has been violated. They go into meltdown because someone has come up to their Seurat inspired painting of a Myer's display window smashed it with a sledgehammer in front of their eyes. The end result is a meltdown; one that apparently came totally out of the blue. The parent says, "All I did was accidentally bump one of the Thomas the Tank Engines while I was dusting. I did not mean to do it. Why did my child have such a massive meltdown over such a small thing? The intensity of the meltdown was so great and so sudden over such a very small thing!" However, all through the day the child was consoling themselves over each challenge by working on their Seurat inspired Myer's window. Only to have it shattered soon as they walk through their bedroom door.

So with my twisted purpose somewhat explained can someone please provide me with an approximate dimension of the George Street in Sydney front of store window display size.

Kind Regards
Lionel

Scouse
7th February 2013, 10:46 AM
https://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=myer+George+St,+Sydney,+New+South+Wales&hl=en&ll=-33.870522,151.215091&spn=0.000071,0.0527&sll=-33.701931,151.099466&sspn=0.013442,0.02635&t=h&hq=myer+George+St,+Sydney,+New+South+Wales&z=15&layer=c&cbll=-33.870165,151.206944&panoid=PiiZg3S6-wm_8gDGOUdKww&cbp=12,62.41,,0,1.06

I would say 10' or 11' high (from ground level).

Lionelgee
7th February 2013, 10:53 AM
Hello All,

I just typed in the George Street Sydney address of the Myer Store into Google Map and did a Street View. Gee I am disappointed - the people in the photograph are either the tallest giants that ever walked the face of the planet, or the windows are not as big as I last remembered them to be :eek:.

I suppose it is all about perspective :)

Kind Regards
Lionel

Lionelgee
7th February 2013, 12:29 PM
https://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=myer+George+St,+Sydney,+New+South+Wales&hl=en&ll=-33.870522,151.215091&spn=0.000071,0.0527&sll=-33.701931,151.099466&sspn=0.013442,0.02635&t=h&hq=myer+George+St,+Sydney,+New+South+Wales&z=15&layer=c&cbll=-33.870165,151.206944&panoid=PiiZg3S6-wm_8gDGOUdKww&cbp=12,62.41,,0,1.06

I would say 10' or 11' high (from ground level).

G'day Scott,

Thank you for the estimate of height. How long (width) would you say the longest section of window would be?

Kind Regards
Lionel

Lionelgee
7th February 2013, 12:43 PM
Hello All,

Please see the attached photo of Meyer's George Street Sydney windows. Scott kindly gave me an estimate of the hieght. What would the full length of the windows be which are shown in different coloured rectangles. With the Google Map image it is hard to get a straight on elevation view perspective and post it up. The two separate windows seem to be the same length if one uses street view to walk down the street.

Accessed Thursday February 7th 2013 from
https://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=myer+George+St,+Sydney,+New+South+Wales&hl=en&ll=-33.870522,151.215091&spn=0.000071,0.0527&sll=-33.701931,151.099466&sspn=0.013442,0.02635&t=h&hq=myer+George+St,+Sydney,+New+South+Wales&z=15&layer=c&cbll=-33.870165,151.206944&panoid=PiiZg3S6-wm_8gDGOUdKww&cbp=12,62.41,,0,1.06

Kind Regards
Lionel

Scouse
7th February 2013, 12:56 PM
The footpath looks like it's made with 400mm pavers.

Feel like counting them?

I make one of them 7.20m (the 'sale 75%' window).

Lionelgee
7th February 2013, 01:07 PM
The footpath looks like it's made with 400mm pavers.

Feel like counting them?

I make one of them 7.20m (the 'sale 75%' window).

Hello Scouse,

Thank you very much - your eyes must be better than mine. Much appreciated.

Kind Regards
Lionel

S3ute
8th February 2013, 06:24 PM
Hello All,

I just typed in the George Street Sydney address of the Myer Store into Google Map and did a Street View. Gee I am disappointed - the people in the photograph are either the tallest giants that ever walked the face of the planet, or the windows are not as big as I last remembered them to be :eek:.

I suppose it is all about perspective :)

Kind Regards
Lionel

Lionel,

Hello from Brisbane.

Are you sure you actually have the right address?

The original Myer store in Sydney was in Market and Pitt Sts. The George St store in your photo was owned by Grace Bros until about 1983 when they took over Myer NSW and in turn were taken back over by Myer. In the process, Grace Bros made the Market and Pitt St store their flagship - having effectively abandoned the original Broadway store earlier on.

So, the large window that you stood in awe before may well have been a couple of blocks up the road.....

Cheers,

Lionelgee
8th February 2013, 06:40 PM
Lionel,

Hello from Brisbane.

Are you sure you actually have the right address?

The original Myer store in Sydney was in Market and Pitt Sts. The George St store in your photo was owned by Grace Bros until about 1983 when they took over Myer NSW and in turn were taken back over by Myer. In the process, Grace Bros made the Market and Pitt St store their flagship - having effectively abandoned the original Broadway store earlier on.

So, the large window that you stood in awe before may well have been a couple of blocks up the road.....

Cheers,

Hello S3 Ute,

Thank you for your post - what stores change their location :eek:
Hmmm so where would the Myer store be in the CBD of Sydney back in the late 60s early 70s? It was quite some time ago :) Does that building from the 60-70 still even exist or has it been the victim of "progress"?

Kind Regards
Lionel
Kind

Ralph1Malph
9th February 2013, 07:48 PM
Hello All,
A number of parent's or relatives of children with Autism have described how their son or daughter has returned home from school and found that someone has cleaned up their room during their absence. The child has walked into their room and quickly fathomed that one of their Thomas the Tank Engines has been moved out of the orderly row in which they had left it. Then all of a sudden the child has had a meltdown and the wrath of Armageddon is visited upon the room. This is accompanied with cries of angst and other grief ridden and angry sounds. Wailing rent clothes - their head rotating horizontally at 360 degrees and green vomit issuing from their mouths. I think you might get the picture.
Kind Regards
Lionel

Describes my 10 yo nephew perfectly when he was younger.

Ralph