long range tank

[beefy]

Hi Guys

looking at long range tanks for the defender. it is a 2012. i have looked at the front runner and the long ranger. anyone got one can you let me know which one you think is better and why?

keith

[Loubrey]

Keith,

I've got a lot of faith in the Front Runner gear. My '96 90 had one installed (back in '97) and it functioned perfectly for over 300,000km of the roughest terrain Africa could throw at it (building roads in Zambia and Tanzania at the time).

I don't know Long Ranger and I'm sure it's a good products as well, but you won't go wrong with the Front Runner tank. The only reason I've not fitted the two FR tanks is justifying trips to warrant the $2,400 it'll cost for the two tanks the 90 needs to make it worth the effort!

Cheers,

Lou

[JayBoRover]

I've fitted the twin sill tanks from Front Runner on my MY12 D90 and also helped another AULRO member instal his. Absolutely brilliant! Was it worth it? No question - for me anyway. Towing a loaded trailer from Perth to Geraldton and back would have required several fuel stops without the extra tanks. Going further North to Carnarvon and beyond, and including a few side tracks for a few hundred km's, and you pretty soon realise you'd be breathing in the stinky Diesel fumes from a bunch of jerry cans or filling the trailer with the jerry cans. All comes down to how often you travel out of the Metro area, how much you like standing around remote and expensive roadhouses filling up again or how much you like trying to get fuel from the jerry into the filler nozzle rather than all down the side of the car and all over your hands.
Cheers
John B

[PAT303]

I had a 46ltre sill tank made for my 110 with transfer pump fittings etc for $600 complete,much cheaper than any other tank,I also have a 100ltre poly tank in the rear behind the back seats,$200 from Rota Plastics from Perth and gravity fed into the sill.Having a poly tank in the rear is cheap and easy and doesn't fill the cab with fumes. Pat

[carlschmid2002]

The major difference between the Frontrunner tanks and the Longranger is that with the Frontrunner you can keep your factory steps if you have them. If you get it from Mulgo you can get a Y filler so you don't have extra holes in the side.

[beefy]

I had a 46ltre sill tank made for my 110 with transfer pump fittings etc for $600 complete,much cheaper than any other tank,I also have a 100ltre poly tank in the rear behind the back seats,$200 from Rota Plastics from Perth and gravity fed into the sill.Having a poly tank in the rear is cheap and easy and doesn't fill the cab with fumes. Pat

pat can you let me know where you got it done?

[Chops]

G'day Pat, where is your filler for the internal tank?

[n plus one]

I've had a Long Range Automotive 135litre replacement main tank in my 110 for a few months now - seems like a good unit and no dramas to date.

Long term plan is to fit LRA sill tanks as well (one as water one as fuel).

[Chilly]

I had a 46ltre sill tank made for my 110 with transfer pump fittings etc for $600 complete,much cheaper than any other tank,I also have a 100ltre poly tank in the rear behind the back seats,$200 from Rota Plastics from Perth and gravity fed into the sill.Having a poly tank in the rear is cheap and easy and doesn't fill the cab with fumes. Pat

Hi
Pat,

I am interested too.
Where did you get them from...tried doing a search on the 'net'.
Chilly

[PAT303]

G'day Pat, where is your filler for the internal tank?

I have to learn to post pictures.I bought the chequer plate pieces that go between the rear doors and the wheel arch and cut and fitted a plastic filler thier,the pipe then runs down over the outrigger under the seats and down to the tank that I had made that fits between the outrigger and the rear chassis mount for the radius arms.My X-Tech has the factory side steps as standard so none of the shop bought sill tanks fit and IMHO thier too exxy for what they are.The tank fits neat,holds 46ltres and works very well. Pat

[PAT303]

pat can you let me know where you got it done?

A sheet metal shop at Rutherford NSW,2mm mild steel plate with an internal baffle,1.6mm thickness mild steel exhaust pipe,50mm O/D for the filler and rivnut into the chassis on the front and 10mm bolts to the rear outrigger.Really neat and easy for $400 plus $200 for pump,filter and a few metres of fuel hose. Pat

[Drover Dave]

Hi Beefy,

I had the 'Long Ranger' 120 Lt replacement main tank fitted to our 2012 110 from new, (P/n TR55). It's excellent...gets my vote. The installation finish is spot on, as is the obvious increase in range.

David

[Defender Mike]

I have the front runner set up with the single filler option from Mulgo. Jaybo helped me fit them a few weeks back and I'm very happy, I kept my factory side steps although minus one support.I can modify that later . I did a test with them down South of WA on beaches sand dunes and through the forrest. All good they fill very easy no blow back of coughing the pumps work well and transfer very quickly. I have genuine LR switches on the dash and they fit in and look good. IT took me a whole weekend to fit and that was with Jaybo's prior fitting knowledge so its not a 5 min job. We bought the 4 tanks and other gear as a bulk buy and saved a bit of cash.
Mike:)

[beefy]

I got a very good price ex uk for the tank. How much is the single filler.

[Xtreme]

See post #26 in the following thread
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/130859-long-range-tank-vs-jerry-cans-3.html
for some more pics and drawings of a these sill tanks I had made for the 110. Drivers side holds 55l and passengers side holds 35l.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/08/1168.jpg

[PAT303]

The one on the right is very similar to mine. Pat

[brian2go]

Hi I brought a 03 130 D/Cab and it has fitted the Long Ranger tanks, a 120L main
and the 35L on the side, I have hadnt any problems with them its just a shame the person who had them fitted didnt get the fuel gauge re calibrated, I now worked out when the needle is on half I have about 35L left. I found out the messy way , was told dont go under half because your nearly empty so when I got half I drained the tank to see what was left , filled up 3 10l buckets and the rest ended up over me and the pavers hehe . I can go from Kwinana to Walpole and busselton on a tank with 4wd in between .

[Garry]

What certification do you need for the home made (as such) tanks as I would be interested in doing something similar

G

[D9Oh..]

Hi JayBo,


After coming out to look at your tank fitment in 2013 I finally got around to doing mine ready for an extended trek. Found the Mulgo Y-Filler and the whole tank fitment pretty easy. Secured the fuel lines up against the body work so hopefully all goes well.
Photos attached

[Defender08]

I am happy with the long ranger that I have in a Puma 110, but be aware that some tow bars are not compatible with the long ranger tank.

[Toxic_Avenger]

D9Oh,
Looks good with the rock sliders and aux tank.

In your opinion, will this tank be at risk of puncture in offroad conditions?

[D9Oh..]

Maybe, it sits at 400mm off the ground, main chassis rails are at 350mm and the rock sliders are at 500mm, so a bit lower than the side but still above the chassis rails. It would have to be a big rock directly behind the line of the front wheel so maybe at that point I should stop and go around :)
Heading bush for 8 days via Coolgardie, Norseman and Lake Ballard in the West, so will see if it is still OK when I get back.

[JayBoRover]

Hi JayBo,


After coming out to look at your tank fitment in 2013 I finally got around to doing mine ready for an extended trek. Found the Mulgo Y-Filler and the whole tank fitment pretty easy. Secured the fuel lines up against the body work so hopefully all goes well.
Photos attached
Glad it all worked out well for you mate. Have a nice trip. Hope it's not too wet for you - I hear the teams in the Oz Safari got a bit of water up around the Murchison, but you might be okay heading East.

[Loubrey]

Hi JayBo,


After coming out to look at your tank fitment in 2013 I finally got around to doing mine ready for an extended trek. Found the Mulgo Y-Filler and the whole tank fitment pretty easy. Secured the fuel lines up against the body work so hopefully all goes well.
Photos attached

Reviving an older thread as I"m considering the auxiliary tank option again...

Has anyone fitted both the left and right hand side dolium/ Frontrunner tanks in a 90 without cutting a new filler on either side? I'm obviously keen on the Mulgo Y-filler and from the above post the setup is pretty clear how to get to the right hand side tank. (although another picture of passing over the outrigger would be great?)

The left hand side is however a bit of an interesting one in terms of plumbing and pipe routing... Would you install a manual shuttle type valve or just an open second Y just after the Mulgo Y and go over the OEM tank (next to the original filler pipe) to the other side (LHS) and then follow the chassis rail to the new tank?

The other option would be a "balancing" link RHS to LHS between the two tanks midway under the car somewhere with the LHS one only filling up after the RHS one is full? Not sure how you would achieve this and keep the pipe safe from harm though...

All comments and suggestions appreciated!

Cheers,

Lou

[PAT303]

Lou,I was going to do it but can't see how you could run the filler pipe across,if you did a 1'' body lift you could do it or try running hose to a rectangle steel section of tube across the original tank or the cross member for the rear seat box,the issue is getting it to flow across while filling. Pat

[Loubrey]

Hi Pat,

Foresaw the same issue...

I was thinking about the option of a filler pipe over the top/ front of the 90's existing tank to the LHS and then forward to auxiliary tank (somehow avoiding the exhaust on that corner). You will however need to manage the fuel between filler pipe no 2 and 3 once it's split by the Mulgo Y...

Cheers,

Lou

[carlschmid2002]

I did it, or should I say Murray from Rijidij helped me out a bit. I will try and post photos that Murray sent me tonight. They are on my laptop. You do have to buy some extra hose. Worked a treat. If you live near Geelong area give Murray a call and see if he has a spare hour to get it sorted for you. He has a website.

[Bundalene]

Have you seen how we installed 2 sill tanks in our Defender.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/projects-tutorials/211858-defender-sill-tanks-take2.html





Erich

[Loubrey]

Hi Carl,

Unfortunately in WA, but there are a few guys this side that can help as well.

I would however much appreciate the photographs as there would be no point in reinventing the wheel if Murray had solved the problem!

Cheers,

Lou

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I have been thinking of using a surplus Perentie tank (which fills from halfway up the rear end of the tank) on my dual cab 6X6.

Given the position of the filler neck below the top of the tank, the breather is required to be vented to allow for a complete fill. The problem is that the breather will have to drop down below the rear floor before it can rise up again to the filler neck.

What do people do with under seat tanks on 5 door 110s or dual cab 130s?

[Loubrey]

Have you seen how we installed 2 sill tanks in our Defender.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/projects-tutorials/211858-defender-sill-tanks-take2.html





Erich

Hi Erich,

Thanks for that!

I didn't see your post when I ran a search, so that's given me some more ideas. The 90's chassis is unfortunately dead straight, so going right to left at the top of chassis level is a bit harder than a 110 which chassis gives you a few more options.

Hopefully Carl's photo's shows a solution to that particular issue.

Cheers,

Lou

[Bushie]

Had a Long Ranger 80litre in my defender for 7 years now, no issues at all (other than a minor, but very inconvenient problem right at the start).
You do lose the drivers underseat storage though. It looks like it hangs down a long way in the pic but never been a problem.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/12/756.jpg

Martyn

[kogvos]

Hi Loubrey - Sorry I'm a bit late to reply (I've been away enjoying the fruits of my labour)... I've got both auxiliary tanks installed in my 90, both filled from the Mulgo Y-Filler. Daniel installed a stainless junction box in the driver's rear wheel arch which then splits to the two auxiliary tanks. The hose to the passenger tank sits nicely in the gap between the chassis rail and the body.

See this post for some photos. I can send you more details if you require. http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread.php?p=2276418

Filling is mostly easy. Occasionally it gets stuck if you're on a slope whilst filling but a good jiggle helps (wobble the Defender as well).

[PAT303]

Had a Long Ranger 80litre in my defender for 7 years now, no issues at all (other than a minor, but very inconvenient problem right at the start).
You do lose the drivers underseat storage though. It looks like it hangs down a long way in the pic but never been a problem.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/12/756.jpg

Martyn
Thats what my tank looks like except mines hidden behind the side steps,my filler is were the triangle section is on the body below the rear door handle. Pat

[Loubrey]

Hi Loubrey - Sorry I'm a bit late to reply (I've been away enjoying the fruits of my labour)... I've got both auxiliary tanks installed in my 90, both filled from the Mulgo Y-Filler. Daniel installed a stainless junction box in the driver's rear wheel arch which then splits to the two auxiliary tanks. The hose to the passenger tank sits nicely in the gap between the chassis rail and the body.

See this post for some photos. I can send you more details if you require. http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread.php?p=2276418

Filling is mostly easy. Occasionally it gets stuck if you're on a slope whilst filling but a good jiggle helps (wobble the Defender as well).

Thank you very much for that. I'll have to get hold of Daniel and see if he'll do me one of those custom splitter box jobbies.

One more photo if you get a chance... a pic or two showing the pipe that turns left's route through the chassis please? From the photo I can make out that one goes to the RHS tank and it looks like a 90 degree elbow or something to turn left and go to the LHS tanks?

Cheers,

Lou

[PTC]

Does anyone know if it is possible to still buy the 70l tank that goes under the rear passenger seats in the 130? I have seen it on build threads from years ago and thinking about one.

I already have sill tanks on either side. One Fuel and the other Water. With the heavy canopy on the back. I would prefer to spread my weight over the middle of the car than replace the rear factory tank at the moment.

[carlschmid2002]

Here are the photos of the dual filler set up on a D 90. The Y filler is sold by Mulgo with the tanks and the fit out was done by Rijidij

[Reads90]

Here are the photos of the dual filler set up on a D 90. The Y filler is sold by Mulgo with the tanks and the fit out was done by Rijidij

That is what I have on my D90 but the other way round due to my main tank being under the drivers seat and spare tank is under the back.
So can fill both tanks up at the same time.