VN fuel pump

[Gary S11]

Hi, as my Landy supplier want $290.00 for a non genuine LR 3.9 fuel pump I am looking to fit the v6 VN ...question before I start is there anything that can't be found in the average Landy owners home garage that might be needed to do the conversion???? Any help would be great ...Gary

[Tank]

Just have to change the connection plug over, you will have to remove the Landy pump from the cradle and fit the VN pump in it's place, easy, Regards Frank.

[langy]

Standard shrink tube won't stand up to petrol after a while - I used insulation from 240v wire and small tie wraps.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=56799&d=1360944352

[justinc]

the plug 'kit' is available as a 'fuel miser' part. the wires don't solder together well at times depending on their condition, if they look dark instead of bright copper when you strip them back then don't bother trying to join them with solder, a GOOD crimp join will suffice as they aren't under any duress.


use proper submersible efi rubber hose too, or it will break down over time and fall to bits:(


jc

[bee utey]

I've done quite a few pump replacements using the Bosch pump kit (BFP772) for the VN. It contains a replacement pump connector cable. Ordinary crimp joiners suffice to make the connections. It is possible to reuse the original LR plastic pressure hose but it is quite an effort to get it off the old pump without wrecking it. Once off a regular hose clamp will hold it on the new pump. If you do wreck it you will need a chunk of submersible EFI hose, generally around $30 a foot.

[Gary S11]

Hi , thanks for the replys, I've ordered the Bosch pump. As I trying to be a step ahead of murphy when I do the job, trying to get submersible EFI fuel line is not working either no one in Albany has heard of it or if they have, don't carry it. So how Long does the non sub, EFI line last in the tank???. Gary

[bee utey]

Regular EFI hose will swell up and burst within a month, not worth the risk.

One ebay seller has the proper stuff:
5/16" SUBMERSIBLE IN-TANK FUEL LINE HOSE SAE30R10 SPECS | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5-16-SUBMERSIBLE-IN-TANK-FUEL-LINE-HOSE-SAE30R10-SPECS-/160300020894?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2552a0349e)

Mackay also has some "in tank" fuel hose in their catalogue, haven't tried it yet. Also you can supposedly use PVC reinforced fuel hose, one member on here got some for his P38 from an industrial hose supplier quite cheaply. Personally I wouldn't as all the PVC fuel hose I've seen creeps out from under clamps and goes rock hard within a year or two.

[Gary S11]

Hi thanks for all the help so far, I've ordered the recommended Bosch pump, but curious whether the replacement non genuin Bosch pump could have been used???
My neighbour is a marine mechanic, and has silicon fuel line that they use in the tanks, would this be ok to use and using the EFI hose clamps ...thanks again. Gary

[Blknight.aus]

the bosch ones last a little better and so long as the hose is silicon inner and outer around the pressure web then you'll be fine.

The reason that normal EFI hose comes apart is that its only the rubber on the inside of the hose that is fuel resistant, the stuff on the outside of the webbing is just plain rubber.

[OlliesLRover]

the plug 'kit' is available as a 'fuel miser' part. the wires don't solder together well at times depending on their condition, if they look dark instead of bright copper when you strip them back then don't bother trying to join them with solder, a GOOD crimp join will suffice as they aren't under any duress.


use proper submersible efi rubber hose too, or it will break down over time and fall to bits:(


jc

I am about to order a fuel pump kit, I rang SCAuto they have a Goss one
Goss Fuel Pump - GE033 - Supercheap Auto Australia (http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Goss-Fuel-Pump-GE033.aspx?pid=100238#Cross)

and Repco have a Fuel miser one but I can't find a link to it.

Both are around $90

Ps: is the plug kit for the fuel miser a seperate item to the pump + any idea of the code/description as the guy I spoke to had no idea.

Niether had the bosch so I am more looking at the Repco fuel miser as I am only 10min from their store.

Just rang Bursons they can get a Bosch one in but are asking $170 for it???

Your thoughts.

Regards
Rich

[OlliesLRover]

Very sorry for bumping this but I would be very grateful for any info.

Regards
Rich

[Gary S11]

Hi the only help I can give is, all feed back to me was only use Bosch more reliable and lasts longer, the Bosch should be $90.00 and I paid $110.00 as I needed it in a hurry. That was from "auto one" Albany I'm sure they are a dime a dozen, if you can't re use your original pipe you will need fully submersable hose $10.00 per 100 mm ....I've just put mine back together just then ..I have 150 mm hose left over which will be going in the banks safety deposit box :-) You dont need a plug kit with the bosch as it comes with a plug you just have to join the wire, if you look at my past posts on the pump the photos will show this ...the one with the blown hose pic, Hope this helps. Gary

[OlliesLRover]

Called into Auto One to purchase a pump kit, the only one they had was GP branded one, the guy said they were the FuelMiser without the FuelMiser Name, (supposedly make them for FuelMiser).

Retail Price $99 on Special $73 and come with every thing you need including a piece of submersible hose (see attached pic of parts included).

I also got a seperate plug kit $9 as it will save me having to cut and join wires (see attached pic).

I think I have every thing to do the job now but I think I read in another thread that not all parts are used, so I have numbered them and if anyone can point out the numbers not needed that would be great.

Also if I need anything else a heads up would be great, other wise tomorrow is replacement day.

Regards
Rich

[bee utey]

That piece of hose is too short for the LR unit. If your assembly still has the OEM hose you can carefully crush the old pump outlet in the hose and remove it piecemeal. Use two pieces of hardwood and a vice after you have removed the old pump and hose from the housing.


Called into Auto One to purchase a pump kit, the only one they had was GP branded one, the guy said they were the FuelMiser without the FuelMiser Name, (supposedly make them for FuelMiser).

Retail Price $99 on Special $73 and come with every thing you need including a piece of submersible hose (see attached pic of parts included).

I also got a seperate plug kit $9 as it will save me having to cut and join wires (see attached pic).

I think I have every thing to do the job now but I think I read in another thread that not all parts are used, so I have numbered them and if anyone can point out the numbers not needed that would be great.

Also if I need anything else a heads up would be great, other wise tomorrow is replacement day.

Regards
Rich

[lewy]

bought some "gates" submersible fuel line at repco yesterday.$20 \metre.They also said that all gates fuel line is submersible don't know if thats correct.
Gates Corporation (http://www.gates.com/australia/index.cfm?location_id=11312)

[OlliesLRover]

Changed the pump over this morning, all went according to plan, the only thing I know I did wrong was I put the filter on the wrong way, when I reseated the pump in position the long side of the filter was on the short side of the pump holder.

I didn't want to snap the filter clip so I left it as is, and just hope it dos'nt affect it long term???.

Interestingly I didn't have to change the origional plug as it was exactly the same as the one that came with the replacement and fitted straight into the new pump, I thought that it may have been replaced before, but I couldn't see where the plug had been joined - the pump that came out had the numbers 25165432 013-1-1 stamped on it.

As others have said getting the origional hose of the pump without destroying it was a bit of a hassle as I didn't have a vice as "bee utey" suggested, so what I done was used a chainsaw file and filed 2 grooves about 3/4 of the way through (top & bottom) from the inside of the old pump outlet, then put 2 small pieces of wood either side of the hose and crushed it (easily) with a pair of pliers and the broken bits of the plastic outlet virtually fell out with no damage to the (precious) hose.

Refitted and went for a 20min drive all appears good, so now at least I know if the problem continues I have at least eliminated the pump.

Couple of pics attached + have plenty more if anybody gets stuck and requires visual reassurance, just give me a yell & I will post them.

[OlliesLRover]

Hi again,

Since I put the new pump in I have noticed the car does not start as easily as it used to, it now takes a couple of turns with the key to fire where as it used to start first go, also it then revs to about 2000rpm then starts to decrease to normal then all is good.

Your thoughts
Rich