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incisor
16th February 2013, 07:39 PM
does any one have a pic of a real lucas lights behind the grill headlamp ie. part number 217271 ?
and does the glass have ribs or are they flat?
russellrovers
16th February 2013, 09:41 PM
does any one have a pic of a real lucas lights behind the grill headlamp ie. part number 217271 ?
and does the glass have ribs or are they flat?
they can be either    orignal are butler head lamps 5 inch
Lotz-A-Landies
16th February 2013, 10:13 PM
They are very similar to the Butler lamps on a grey Fergy tractor, but be careful some of the tractor ones were only single filliament.
Take a look at Mark's 2010 thread on the subject.  (The lamp on the RHS) http://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-i-land-rover-enthusiasts-section/103218-lights-behind-grille.html
incisor
16th February 2013, 11:15 PM
they can be either    orignal are butler head lamps 5 inch
according to lrsoc they were lucas not butler. 
butler were only used on mod vehickes of that era they reckon
Lotz-A-Landies
17th February 2013, 12:38 AM
Send a message/email to Mike B 260AC (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/260ac.html) if he cant give you the facts no one can.
Diana
russellrovers
17th February 2013, 08:13 AM
does any one have a pic of a real lucas lights behind the grill headlamp ie. part number 217271 ?
and does the glass have ribs or are they flat?
hi there a  photo in the parts catalogue    1948 to 1953   page144  that a lucas    the the only difference between the butler and lucas is the rim lucas has    slight taper    also glass is fluted
incisor
17th February 2013, 10:21 AM
hi there a  photo in the parts catalogue    1948 to 1953   page144  that a lucas    the the only difference between the butler and lucas is the rim lucas has    slight taper    also glass is fluted
i know they are very similar. 
the bases where they attach the pivot bolt to the lamp body is different as well it seems.
i have 3 types here, two i believe to be proper lucas bodies but no glass and rims etc, a complete butler with badge intact and two of the bare co. tractor lamps new in boxes.
the two lucas (?) and the butler have fine thread on the pivot bolt, the bare co lamps have a coarser threaded bolt.
will take pictures if the rain ever stops ...
incisor
17th February 2013, 10:31 AM
They are very similar to the Butler lamps on a grey Fergy tractor, but be careful some of the tractor ones were only single filliament.
Take a look at Mark's 2010 thread on the subject.  (The lamp on the RHS) http://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-i-land-rover-enthusiasts-section/103218-lights-behind-grille.html
that thread decended to crap didnt it :p
russellrovers
17th February 2013, 12:12 PM
i know they are very similar. 
the bases where they attach the pivot bolt to the lamp body is different as well it seems.
i have 3 types here, two i believe to be proper lucas bodies but no glass and rims etc, a complete butler with badge intact and two of the bare co. tractor lamps new in boxes.
the two lucas (?) and the butler have fine thread on the pivot bolt, the bare co lamps have a coarser threaded bolt.
will take pictures if the rain ever stops ...
will go through  boxes i have the parts you require   also still have  rear number plate holder   for the 107 flat bed maybe we can swop
russellrovers
17th February 2013, 02:16 PM
i know they are very similar. 
the bases where they attach the pivot bolt to the lamp body is different as well it seems.
i have 3 types here, two i believe to be proper lucas bodies but no glass and rims etc, a complete butler with badge intact and two of the bare co. tractor lamps new in boxes.
the two lucas (?) and the butler have fine thread on the pivot bolt, the bare co lamps have a coarser threaded bolt.
will take pictures if the rain ever stops ...
big storm here   have found 2 fluted glass   date stamped   48/ i  part no   552282    does this help   regards jim
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