1949 80" Replacement canvas... Which one

[Yorkshire_Jon]

Ok, so first up this is a bit hypothetical because I still haven't bought the car I'm considering...

However, the car currently has a fairly neat truck cab canvas with flat sticks.

From a functional perspective there is no need to change it, however I would want a full length one to give the back some cover.

So, I understand the 48's & 49's had flat sticks and some time later they changed to the hooped sticks. I also understand that the hooped stick canvas' can be used (with hopped sticks) on the 48's & 49's.

Now, I'm long(ish) backed and short legged so my head was constantly banging on the flapping flat top canvas on the freeway.

If I were to get a full length hooped canvas, would this be eilminated / VERY much reduced?

I am assuming a full length canvas allows a bit more tension in the flat ropes and the hoops will give another inch of headroom.

Another thought, could the sticks be extended an inch without problems/canvas not fitting to give a smidge more headroom??

Thx
Jon

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[andy_d110]

I have recently bought a replacement Hood for my '48 from Tom Pickford at WwSpares.

The hood looks spot on, great colour match and has all the correct fittings for the year of manufacture. The general consensus is that Exmoor ones are not the same quality or 100% correct compared to Toms. He can also supply hood sticks to suit.

Drop him a line; Tom Pickford, wwspares@aol.com

Cheers,

Andy

[incisor]

and there is allwheeltrim

All Wheel Trim Ltd. Land Rover hood quick pricelist (http://www.allwheeltrim.co.uk/quick-list.html#S1-sand)

[bulletproof]

The early 49s are the same as the 48s but around Mid year they changed from the Screw on tie downs for the canvas to the spot welded ones so they are different.

Cheers Richard

[Outlaw]

Anyone here bought from All Wheel Trim? Am planning on ordering a top off them on the weekend.

[tom the pom]

I think it depends on what standard you are aiming for, if you just want a hood to cover you vehicle, then fine you get what you pay for.

[Outlaw]

All good.. some more research and spoken to a couple now who have purchased from them and seems as if they're better than Exmoor nowadays :)

[123rover50]

Anyone any idea on the freight on these to Brissie.
I asked for a quote once but got no reply.

[incisor]

i had a sii swb tilt landed on my door in 5 days for $470.. from all wheel trim 12 months ago

am very happy with the quality..

[incisor]

Anyone any idea on the freight on these to Brissie.
I asked for a quote once but got no reply.

geez i found them very responsive...

but timing is everything i think.

[russellrovers]

Anyone any idea on the freight on these to Brissie.
I asked for a quote once but got no reply.
theres a person up your way who makes tarps from oz militry canvass jim

[123rover50]

theres a person up your way who makes tarps from oz militry canvass jim

Um, can you give us a clue?:)

[The ho har's]

I sent 'All Wheel Trim' an e-mail asking about their 80" tilts, truck cab a bikini top for photos, got a super quick response.

We have no photos of those, look in the series 1 website:mad:

So they will have no business from me;)

Still looking for a truck cab/bikini top for 'connie-sue'

I wanted an original looking one like the one we saw in S.A. Our canvas guy may be the go though;) at least he's approachable and does good work:)

Mrs hh:angel:

[mfc]

i noticed a distinct lack of photos of any useful quality on any of the hood makers sites..Also had a lot of difficulty comunicating with all wheel trim and therefore went with exmore trim through craddocks....postage for a three man hood was 60 pound sterling...
all wheel trim was cheeper even with about 100 pound
regards mark

[russellrovers]

Um, can you give us a clue?:)
cobolture has gone down to melbourn to work will try and contact him

[mfc]

I sent 'All Wheel Trim' an e-mail asking about their 80" tilts, truck cab a bikini top for photos, got a super quick response.

We have no photos of those, look in the series 1 website:mad:

So they will have no business from me;)

Still looking for a truck cab/bikini top for 'connie-sue'

I wanted an original looking one like the one we saw in S.A. Our canvas guy may be the go though;) at least he's approachable and does good work:)

Mrs hh:angel:

have a look at the exmoore trim one i put on my 86 inch{sacralige??}
it uses the flat hood sticks , theres a pic of it on here under exmoore 3 man pre pro hood on an 86 inch
i recon they look hot :p
regards mark
{only issue is that you need one more sharks tooth than the 86 has...ie in the center of the windscreen center bar and doors with flaps or a perchant for modding something up}

[LRO53]

I have attached a flyer for Undercovers.

Very good quality tilts for 80" and other wheelbases. They also do seats which blow Exmore ones out of the water. I know this as I spent 3000+ km in my 53 with Exmore seats and I got very sore.... While I was in the UK I sat on these seats and they are in a league of there own.

my 2c

[mfc]

I have attached a flyer for Undercovers.

Very good quality tilts for 80" and other wheelbases. They also do seats which blow Exmore ones out of the water. I know this as I spent 3000+ km in my 53 with Exmore seats and I got very sore.... While I was in the UK I sat on these seats and they are in a league of there own.

my 2c
ive heard really good things re there hoods

[andy_d110]

I have attached a flyer for Undercovers.

Very good quality tilts for 80" and other wheelbases. They also do seats which blow Exmore ones out of the water. I know this as I spent 3000+ km in my 53 with Exmore seats and I got very sore.... While I was in the UK I sat on these seats and they are in a league of there own.

my 2c

I will second that. Bought one recently for the 48 and very happy with the quality of it.

I am sorting out a new one from them for a 88" series one at the moment.

Repeat customers...

[123rover50]

I will second that. Bought one recently for the 48 and very happy with the quality of it.

I am sorting out a new one from them for a 88" series one at the moment.

Repeat customers...

Is that Tom the Poms mob?
I heard they were good but did not get a reply for a quote for a bikini hood:(

[back_in]

Hi
Do you all know much at all, speak to some one that has been there, and and done it, do not expound some one wrong ideas as the truth.
Exmoor make the heaviest canvas hoods, laser cut to exact size etc etc
I have 3 ranging from 49 to 58's series ones, they were far better and cheaper than any made in Aus.
I save a little by bringing them back in 07 and 09 in my luggage from the UK.
Back in 07 the exchange rate was some 20 new pence per $ less than today's rate.
Their seats for 58 L/R are exactly as original apart from the foam inserts.
From what I have seen their other seats on other models are just as good.
To travel long distance in early L/R must be done slowly with a good supply of pain killers and good Scotch to dull the pain.
Well I have had my grizzle, load your muzzle loaders and return fire
cheers
Ian

[andy_d110]

Is that Tom the Poms mob?
I heard they were good but did not get a reply for a quote for a bikini hood:(

Keith,

yes that's Tom the Poms mob. He is quoting up one for me at the moment. I shall rattle his cage about your one. :D

[incisor]

Exmoor make the heaviest canvas hoods, laser cut to exact size etc etc

my 2c

i have had an all wheel trim and an exmoor side by side and the all wheel trim wins hands down... except for the rope, i would have preferred the exmoor version of the rope.

don't know about their seats, never sat in one that i am aware of.

[The ho har's]

Hi
Do you all know much at all, speak to some one that has been there, and and done it, do not expound some one wrong ideas as the truth.
Exmoor make the heaviest canvas hoods, laser cut to exact size etc etc
I have 3 ranging from 49 to 58's series ones, they were far better and cheaper than any made in Aus.
I save a little by bringing them back in 07 and 09 in my luggage from the UK.
Back in 07 the exchange rate was some 20 new pence per $ less than today's rate.
Their seats for 58 L/R are exactly as original apart from the foam inserts.
From what I have seen their other seats on other models are just as good.
To travel long distance in early L/R must be done slowly with a good supply of pain killers and good Scotch to dull the pain.
Well I have had my grizzle, load your muzzle loaders and return fire
cheers
Ian


So Ian tell me, do you have an original 80" truck Cab Hood in your shed?;) If so I would very much like it please:p:D And I will happily drive to S.A. to visit you, Caroline, and the rest of the extended family which we met so many of;)

Cheers
Mrs hh:angel:

[back_in]

Hi young lady
how are you and the old fellow
recovered from your trip down south
I hope so
answer to your question
Yes and no, the only one is a Exmoor and it is on the 1949
Wayne E had a early one, he acquired one, not sure what year
may pay to tweet him to see if he still has it.
yes you both would be welcome back any time
cheers
Ian

[LRO53]

my 2c

i have had an all wheel trim and an exmoor side by side and the all wheel trim wins hands down... except for the rope, i would have preferred the exmoor version of the rope.

don't know about their seats, never sat in one that i am aware of.

Agreed. I have an Exmoor from 2006 which is still made to the old standards. Very Good quality and a well made hood. I also have an Exmoor Hood from the Mid 1990s which is still holding together just also very good quality.

But....
I have also now seen 2009-2013 Exmoor hoods. The quality has really dropped off since then. Cheaper materials, Bad Fit. More expensive. They also stopped selling direct to the customer! Which is the worst thing they could ever do so they have now lost touch.

I have no experience with All Wheel Trim but do have first hand experience with undercovers. They are a step above both Exmoor and all wheel. Also what you get included with Undercovers you needed to buy with Exmoor as extras.

Eg. The Seat Base locators you had to buy separately if you got Exmoor seats. Undercover they are included.

[50LRO]

I have have bought a tilt form both exmoor and undercover covers.
Exmoor charged extra for rope and brass hooks. Where undercover covers every thing is included.
I have had the exmoor tilt for 5 years on a vehicle that has only covered 1500 miles in that time, and I have found that it is ripping where the hood drapes over the windscreen. And the stitching is pulling out of the front tensioner flap at the front hoop.
The undercover cover looks to be heavier canvas and heavier thread on the stitching.
My money's on undercover covers.

[Summiitt]

I'm just about to order a new canvas for my 52 80in, undercover have been very helpful and have the colour available and ready to ship. I need new hood sticks, they can do them for £200. is there anyone else in Australia that can supply the frame or should I just go with the whole package from under covers?

[mfc]

if the 52's have flat hood sticks you can bend them up yourself {or get someone with a pipe bender.... } the pipe is gal electrical conduit, 16 gauge from memory but i have the details somewhere via a lrsoc post .One point on the debate re maker is that at least the older exmoor trim hoods{pre pro 3 man and boot string style } are 100% cotton canvas . I love mine ....but...try and get poly cotton ,it dosen't rot near as fast in our climate.

As a aide note { attn Hohars..} there was a pattern taken of my exmoor 3 man hood before it had shrunk fit my dodgy hoodstick attempt if youre looking at getting one made up
regards mark
{ps the thought of postage on hoodsticks from the uk gave me nightmares for a month although i never got a qoute on them}

[chazza]

Thanks for posting that link MFC :D

I will have to make my own sometime - do you know how high the bend is on the non-flat bows?

Cheers Charlie

[mfc]

no i dont unfortunatly, but id be inclined to borrow one to bend to as there'd likley be a metal peice like the 86 inch ones running from window to hoop{ rather than a bent 1/2 inch gal pipe and two bolts} that would need tabs welded on and a metal peice behind the door{rather than a canvas flap on the door top to fill the gap}
all speculation mind you lol ill look at the parts book for a 53 if u like
regards mark

ps this is the link to the side peices from a hohars post http://www.aulro.com/afvb/series-i-land-rover-enthusiasts-section/156570-80-hood-sticks.html