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tony_s
18th February 2013, 05:37 PM
I have a D4 in need of new tyres. I seem to be heading for BFG26560R18 or Cooper Zeon LTZ 28560R18. Both are about 800 dia ie about 30mm bigger than the original Goodyears. 
What do you reckon?
gghaggis
18th February 2013, 05:48 PM
The 265/60R18 Bridgestones should be around 775mm, so smaller than the 285/60R18's. The larger size will only fit the spare wheel well if deflated, and the tow hitch will be a tight fit!
Cheers,
Gordon
tony_s
18th February 2013, 06:22 PM
Thanks Gordon, but I meant 26565R18 BFGs not 60. I think they are the same dia as the Coopers.
discotwinturbo
18th February 2013, 07:05 PM
Thanks Gordon, but I meant 26565R18 BFGs not 60. I think they are the same dia as the Coopers.
The BFG are slightly taller....but they are LT's I think. The coopers do have strong side walls though.
Only thing that steered me away from them is that the 285/60-18 are ever so slightly more available.
Being slightly taller the BFG will rub a little more on the chassis on full lock.
I do like the wider foot print of my Coopers. I have hammered them hard so far, and have not let me down....not that I expected them to as I have been very happy with my Coopers over the past 12 years. But I am anal about tyre pressures.
Brett...
tony_s
18th February 2013, 08:08 PM
Many thanks Brett.  Are the Coopers ok on a car without LAMS?  And do they affect the turning circle at all?  And does one fit underneath?
Tony
~Rich~
18th February 2013, 09:06 PM
Yes you can drive around on most roads without LLAMS or Rods, only when you need more wheel travel such as rough / rocky terrain is LLAMS or Rods of benefit for more clearance.
They don't really affect the turning circle but it is best to move the wiring loom on the front chassis rail a little to up on top to stop the tyre from damaging it.
Be aware that they are oversize and in some states not legal.
I used to fit a LTZ under the back deflated until I got the RWC.
TerryO
18th February 2013, 10:22 PM
Either Llams or rods are very useful for sand dune driving where often you need to be able to stay above 60 kph and also be at off road height.
cheers,
Terry
jonesy63
19th February 2013, 10:50 PM
I have a D4 in need of new tyres. I seem to be heading for BFG26560R18 or Cooper Zeon LTZ 28560R18. Both are about 800 dia ie about 30mm bigger than the original Goodyears. 
What do you reckon?
Tony,
Where will you be using the D4? 
Is it a 2.7L or 3L?
If you're only going on odd weekends away, mild AT's would suit. If you have something else in mind, let us know. If you're just driving about Sydney... :angel::D
tony_s
20th February 2013, 08:18 AM
Hi Jonesy
Yes, using the D4 2.7 for a variety of trips/surfaces usually towing an offroad camper (Vista Crossover).  Planning on a some travel in the short term to corner country and possibly Kimberley. 
Tony
phl
20th February 2013, 08:36 AM
Talking about BFG ATs and Coopers, would the Coopers Zeon LTZ in 255/55R19 be comparable to the BFG AT in 265/70R16?
I'm fully aware that 19" will not bag as much as the 16", being lower profile as well, but am looking at a tyre that will work in Sydney driving most of the time, but be able to tackle the High Country on holidays.
~Rich~
20th February 2013, 10:14 AM
???? 16" wheels & tyres will not fit a D3, D4 or RRS.
jonesy63
20th February 2013, 11:10 AM
Hi Jonesy
Yes, using the D4 2.7 for a variety of trips/surfaces usually towing an offroad camper (Vista Crossover).  Planning on a some travel in the short term to corner country and possibly Kimberley. 
Tony
Cool. In that case, see if you can get some 17" play wheels and then throw on some LT tyres. I have LT245/70R17 BFG KM2 tyres on my D4 for offroad and can highly recommend these as a great legal set. Last year, I did from Sydney to Broome on them and back... cruising at 130km/h in NT, GRR/Mitchell plateau/Bungle Bungles/etc... nothing phased them. Not too noisy for MT's and good grip in pretty much all conditions.
If you want to keep your 18" wheels, then AT would be a good compromise. I've had 2 sets of Yokohama AT/S in 265/60R18 (another legal size) on my previous D3 and they were great. Not as good in mud, as MT's as expected - but better on road than standard Wranglers. The recently announced Bridgestone LT265/60R18 would be worth a close look. Tombie here has them and likes them.
Good luck on your trips!
phl
20th February 2013, 11:21 AM
???? 16" wheels & tyres will not fit a D3, D4 or RRS.
I'm changing over from a Pajero with the 16", so want something with similar grip in 19", as will be tackling the same areas.
Plane Fixer
20th February 2013, 02:37 PM
In that case as you are stuck with the 19" on a new D4 unless you get Gordon's 18" wheels, which are the only ones to fit the 3.0 D4.
I have got the 19" Cooper and I am very happy with them as they have been punished on the roads to El-Questro, Bungles and Chambers Pillar and have had no problems.
That being said I drove in a manner befitting low profile tyres on the bad roads; not being a Nana but watching the road carefully and picking my lines. There was the odd "Oh ****" as the wheel thumped into an unseen larger pothole but no damage done.
phl
20th February 2013, 02:50 PM
In that case as you are stuck with the 19" on a new D4 unless you get Gordon's 18" wheels, which are the only ones to fit the 3.0 D4.
I have got the 19" Cooper and I am very happy with them as they have been punished on the roads to El-Questro, Bungles and Chambers Pillar and have had no problems.
I know I'm stuck with the 19", and don't really want to change them. Hence tyres that will provide decent grip up rocky climbs, because that's when low grip potentially means more momentum = big damage.
Sounds like the LTZ it is then; will change over on delivery (or before if the dealer comes to the party).
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