D4 Rear pads ??

[10 Toes]

My car is in for a 27,000k service and the tech rings me and says the rear pads are very close to gone. I'm not so sure as I'm not aggressive on the brakes and the front are fine (apparently).
Can I have an indication of how long your rear pads lasted on your SDV6 D4 please?
Cheers
TenToes!

[discotwinturbo]

My car is in for a 27,000k service and the tech rings me and says the rear pads are very close to gone. I'm not so sure as I'm not aggressive on the brakes and the front are fine (apparently).
Can I have an indication of how long your rear pads lasted on your SDV6 D4 please?
Cheers
TenToes!

I have done 31000, tow heavy loads, lots of offroading, and brake hard.

Also lots of hills around our home.

I have more than 50% meat left on the rear.

Brett....

[Ashes]

Depends more on how often you apply the brakes. Our car does a lot of city work so goes through the pads more quickly. Country driving and they will last longer. I'm getting the fronts done this week...
KM's aren't a good guide for brake wear.

[Geedublya]

In my experience dealers recommend new pads to ensure they do not wear out between services.

On my wife's Golf they wanted to change the rear pads at 45K, and suggested I have them changed at the next 2 services. I ended up replacing them at 85K and they still had 1-2mm left.

If you are comfortable with changing them yourself buy some pads and a sensor from an importer and replace them when they are more worn or when you get the dash light.

[Convinceme]

Had mine done recently, 40% left on them, mechanic recommended changing them as I was going away on a trip and towing a camper. Surprised me that the rear needed doing and the front was fine. Rotor's and pads done at the same time, not sure if thats the norm when the pads are done.... fairly new to the LR club.:D

Steve

[Graeme]

Surprised me that the rear needed doing and the front was fine. Rotor's and pads done at the same time, not sure if thats the norm when the pads are done.... fairly new to the LR club.
LR hasn't caught up with the fact that with a lot of braking the rear wheels do virtually as much of the stopping as the fronts yet still put significantly less brake pad on the rear. It certainly happened with the D2 and continues with the D4.

[101RRS]

Everytime someone looked at my car they all said that pads and rotors needed replacing. 30,000km after the first comment I replaced the pads (70,000km) which still had plenty of pad left and on measuring the disks they were less than half worn.

I am not sureof why mechanics do this - is it genuine concern, drumming up business or just incompetence but with me they loose my confidence in the advice they give. They are certainly correct sometimes but on many others not - for expensive work I would also get a second opinion.

If you are not sure if the advice you have been given with respect to your brakes is correct - have a look your self and at the same time measure your disks and check their condition because I can also guarantee that they will also want to do the rotors as well.

Garry

[SBD4]

Mine were first done at 79000Km - I do a lot of highway driving though.

[camel_landy]

My car is in for a 27,000k service and the tech rings me and says the rear pads are very close to gone. I'm not so sure as I'm not aggressive on the brakes and the front are fine (apparently).
Can I have an indication of how long your rear pads lasted on your SDV6 D4 please?
Cheers
TenToes!

It's very much down to driving style, bad habits, etc... as well as the terrain you drive on (dirt, HDC, etc...).

If they're worn, they're worn.

M

[101RRS]

If they're worn, they're worn.

M

Unfortunately even though the dealers say they are worn, they may not be.

[minibloodhound]

Mine only had 20000 on them when I had a warning message come up on the dash saying that the rear pads we worn. Sure enough when I had them replaced they showed them to me, and they were definitely worn down. Next set may have to be aftermarket as the OEM ones obviously don't last very long.

[discotwinturbo]

Mine only had 20000 on them when I had a warning message come up on the dash saying that the rear pads we worn. Sure enough when I had them replaced they showed them to me, and they were definitely worn down. Next set may have to be aftermarket as the OEM ones obviously don't last very long.

Mate, that's incredible. The pads must be very soft. Or are you driving your car the wrong way around ;-)

Brett.....

[scarry]

A lot of dirt road and sand driving will often wear out the rears long before the fronts.

[AGRO]

Rear Pads replaced at 72000km and front pads assessed as being 30% worn. Mix of city, highway and dirt driving - I suspect driving style has a lot to do with wear rates.

[DiscoWeb]

I think the dealers are overly efficient in suggesting replacement brake pads.

I have had it recommended but put it off on the basis the vehicle has sensors to warn you. I am assuming that the warning is not going to be when the pads become critical and present a real safety issue because LR would leave a reasonable margin as insisted by their liability insurers!!!

So provided you are not in the middle of nowhere with limited access to a dealer why not wait for the car to warn you and get them changed at that point ?

Surprisingly there seems to be many many Km between when the dealer says do it and the vehicle.

One another point raised earlier, the rotors are "sacrificial" and not able to be machined so if warped etc they need to be replaced, however again hard to see why they need to be done after 30,000 odd km unless you are driving it around a race track regularly.

Whilst brakes and a critical safety component I think there is probably a bit of dealer profit tied up in replacing these components more often than really required.

Regards,

George

[Geedublya]

Remember that the sensors are only on one side so if the other side is wearing faster (could be due to all sorts of reasons) the sensor won't warn you and you will start hearing metal on metal. It is a good idea to keep an eye on the pads and not rely on the sensor too much.

I agree that the dealers make good margin on brakes and that encourages them to recommend that pads and rotors be changed a bit earlier than probably required. When I get my vehicles serviced and they call advising that brakes require replacement I always ask them to defer it and I check them out myself and make my own determination.

[camel_landy]

Unfortunately even though the dealers say they are worn, they may not be.

Indeed but if you're not knowledgeable yourself to make that call, then I'd go with what the dealer says...

M

[camel_landy]

A lot of dirt road and sand driving will often wear out the rears long before the fronts.

Indeed they do... I was doing 3x rears to 1x fronts when touring Oz in the 110.

M

[SBD4]

Indeed they do... I was doing 3x rears to 1x fronts when touring Oz in the 110.

M

Why does this have a greater impact on rear vs front pads?

[101RRS]

Indeed but if you're not knowledgeable yourself to make that call, then I'd go with what the dealer says...

M

And thats what they rely on - ignorance of the owners. And the Stealers wonder why they have a bad name and cannot be relied upon to give proper advice.

As I said they were calling for new pads and rotors on my car 30,000km before I replaced the pads and they were no where near the sensors and the rotors were only a 1/3rd worn at 70,000km with no gouges, no lip and no warpage.

For the stealers it is like stealing candy from a baby for many of their customers.

Garry

[scarry]

Why does this have a greater impact on rear vs front pads?

A lot of sand and dirt gets thrown up onto the rears,helping wear.

The other thing is these vehicles have long intervals between services so the dealers are probably playing it safe.

They are also heavier and more powerful than previous models,and have better brakes which means softer discs and pads.

This all adds up to more wear on rotors and pads.

[Ashes]

Had the front pads and sensor done today. Declined to do the front rotors as they were still above min thickness. Will see how that pans out.

[camel_landy]

Why does this have a greater impact on rear vs front pads?

The dust/sand/grit gets thrown up from the front wheels and contaminates the rear disks & pads. So, as soon as you apply the brakes, this sand/grit significantly increases the wear on the pads.

M

[discotwinturbo]

I have never had to replace rear pads before front pads, on any vehicles.....this includes plenty of dirt roads.

Must be a land rover thing.

Brett...