wheel size options

[philmoon]

Hi guys I've just bought a 2003 4.4 HSE (this is my second range rover other was a p38 ... I guess I've got the bug now :)
Well my question is probably the opposite from whats normally asked but can some of you guys tell me what size wheels AND tyres you have on your cars also price of a reputable brand tyre for comparisons (Mitchellin etc )
I am currently running on 22 inch range rover rims (well at least they look to be range rover although quite possible they are copies (how do I tell ?)
These wheels are too large for me as I fear for my life when driving in any school zones as it looks like a drug dealing paedo car lol
Jokes aside I just want it a little more usable for driving up kerbs etc as this car will be used to drive round town and tow my offroad toy... I think 22's are bit limiting.
I'm going to sell the wheels and tyres which are around 80% tread on stealbay once i get new ones ... any ideas on price (brisbane)

[harlie]

...
... looks like a drug dealing paedo car lol
.... :D

22” won’t be genuine RR wheels, unless they are from a late model. Someone correct me if I’m wrong but the ’03 petrol HSE had 18 standard, 19 option.

Personally I have the standard 18s, I want the side wall for venturing off the black stuff. 265/60 18 MICHELIN Latitude Tour HP, a nice road tyre, 95% of my car’s use is on road, I want a tyre that is quite, rides nice and most importantly sticks wet or dry. About 370ea delivered from Tire Rack US, fitted & balanced locally (Shop at Wynnum was happy to have them sent directly to them). Was quoted 500ea here.

If you change wheels make sure you find out exactly what you have, L322 from ’02 to ’05 had wheels that are different to all other LRs. Late L322, D3/4/RRS wheels will fit but you need the nuts to suit – the difference is the wheel nut seat.

[Homestar]

I've got 20" on mine - from an 09 supercharged. They look great, but are a bit limiting. They are only on there because it was the car I wanted, and they were on there when I bought it, but it would be better on 18's.

I will need new tyres in the next 6 months, so still tossing up if I put new rubber on these rims, or change to 18's at the same time...

Still doesn't stop me going off road with it, but I have to tip toe around a bit...

[33chinacars]

I've got 18" on my '05 TD6. Very happy with then.

Standard is 18" rims with 255/60-18 tyres
Option 19" rims with 255/55-19 or 20" rims with 255/50-20

As Harlie says 22" not RR usless very late model. I wouldn't have then in a pink fit.

'02-05 used one type of lug nut. Change after that. DO NOT mix wheels & lug nuts. Find out what wheels & nuts you have before changing. Make sure you have thew right nuts to fit your " new " wheels.

Currently I run the std Goodyear tyres + a spare set in the shed on rims + another set of rims to put some semi offroad tyres on. Probable Greneral Grabber AT's to do the 1/2 lap on

Gary

[ytt105]

I've heard you can fit 17" rims for an early D3 or a BMW x5. Anyone actually done this.

Plenty of good tyres available for 17" rims.

[harlie]

D3 wheels don’t fit over the calipers, can’t see any wheel with the load ratings being any different.

[philmoon]

Can any one tell me will these fit my car. ( the car mentioned at start of topic )

Range Rover Sport 19 Inch Rims And Tyres | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Range-Rover-Sport-19-Inch-Rims-And-Tyres-/271178244697?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f237ba259&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_1203)

[Homestar]

Can any one tell me will these fit my car. ( the car mentioned at start of topic )

Range Rover Sport 19 Inch Rims And Tyres | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Range-Rover-Sport-19-Inch-Rims-And-Tyres-/271178244697?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f237ba259&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_1203)

I think the Sport has the same 120mm PCD as the L322 but I'm not sure about the offset and centre bore size.

[harlie]

* The offset is slightly different but acceptable.

* You will NEED wheel nuts to match the RRS wheels. Assuming that your current wheels are not Early L322 wheels they may be RRS or Late L322, if this is the case than the nuts will be OK. If they are after market wheels chances are the nut won't fit - you need to know what you have now. The wheel nuts off an '03 L322 won't fit RRS wheels.
Could be cheaky - go over and ask if he can remove a wheel nut and compare to what you have.

* If the offset and the nuts are different you really need 5 so you have a matching spare.

* The tyres on the RR Sport are smaller in profile (overall diameter) than L322 and D3/4. No legality issues but those tyres aren't really suitable.

So yes, they will fit and IMO will be heaps better than 22" - but there are a few points to consider.

Personally I think that wheel looks great.

[Camo]

I got a set of secondhand 20's from a 2008 supercharged with ok tyres for 600 bucks:D Guy had all the original nuts to go with them as well!

I couldn't pick the ride difference between the 20's and the original ugly 18's.. but now I won't go on the dirt with it.. maybe the beach and thats it.

Would like to get the 18's powder coated black and throw them on if I do a trip up north.

[philmoon]

2005 - 2012 range rover sport wheels and tyres. 19 inch factory rims in unmarked new condition. .

Tyres are Goodyear Eagles F1 255x55x19. 2 (ebay advert cut and pasted )

( cut from top of post )
Wizard


I've got 18" on my '05 TD6. Very happy with then.

Standard is 18" rims with 255/60-18 tyres
Option 19" rims with 255/55-19 or 20" rims with 255/50-20

Is wizzard wrong about the profile as they are the same as the range rover sport profiles for sale ??? Im so confused ... I dont want to buy wheels that dont fit but I work away so have to grab a bargain when i can ;)

[Homestar]

Personally I think that wheel looks great.

Agreed - very nice set of rims - would look good on the L322.:)

[33chinacars]

2005 - 2012 range rover sport wheels and tyres. 19 inch factory rims in unmarked new condition. .

Tyres are Goodyear Eagles F1 255x55x19. 2 (ebay advert cut and pasted )




Standard is 18" rims with 255/60-18 tyres

Option 19" rims with 255/55-19 or

20" rims with 255/50-20

;)

This is correct as quoted

Gary

[philmoon]

thanks 33chinacars I will buy them then :)

[harlie]

Yeah grab them, if they have 255/55 19 on them they aren't the standard size for the RRS - they had 255/50 19.

As Gary confirmed 255/55 are the standard for L322, also standard for D3/4. 255/50 are considerabley more expensive as they are not as commonly used, so it makes sence that RRS owners may fit the larger tyre when replacing originals. Sorry, I didn't fully read the ebay add.

Good find.

[sheerluck]

Yeah grab them, if they have 255/55 19 on them they aren't the standard size for the RRS - they had 255/50 19........

That was confusing me. I was pretty sure that the RRS had a smaller wheel diameter than the D3/4

[33chinacars]

You will probable find that the RRS 19" wheels are 9" wide with a 53mm offset. Where as the L322 19" wheels are 8" wide with 57mm offset . But that can depend on tghe year also. And as already said different wheel nuts.

Mk III Range Rover Tire Choices (http://www.rangerovers.net/outfitting/tires/mkiiitires.html)

Range Rover Sport Tire Choices (http://www.rangerovers.net/outfitting/tires/sporttires.html)

Gary

[philmoon]

Hi all and thanks for the posts really really helpful :)
I bought wheel and tyre package from some one off this forum, I couldnt resist.... Pics to follow maybe Friday or Saturday if all goes well :)

[glenhendry]

Good thread philmoon. I too, am interested in moving from a P38 to an L322 one day, and am interested in these options. I predict the biggest detractor for me will be the availability of good off road rubber (without scrubbing etc). My P38 has 18" rims for on road, with standard 29" diameter, and 16" rims for off road with 32" diameter - that means a lot of extra sidewall rubber. My brothers L322 with 19" ATs just dont give enough sidewall to work with (IMO).

My P38 will not be sold when I do upgrade, but moved to my son, who will be then be turning of age. Seems like a great safe car for him :)

[33chinacars]

Hi Glen for offroad tyres I would stay with the 18" rims . Not perfect but better that 19" or 20" rims. Although the L322 G4 did have 19" rims on it. Lot more choices in 18" rims & you can go up to a 265/60-18 without any trouble.

Gary

[philmoon]

Well ... I have the rims .... but wheel nuts are after market and so the hunt for wheel nuts begins :( so still stuck on my 22's for the min :(
On a brighter note I did buy both sets of wheels from Roamer in the for sale section ... it took a five hour round trip for the wheels I wanted so I figured hey why not buy his muds too !!
Now have
4 x 22 inch roads (aftermarket ones copies of a range rover rim)
4 x 19 inch roads (ones I wanted 15 spokes)
5 x 19 inch mud wheels and tyres (early rrs rims and a further 2 muds ... so yes 7 mud tyres LOL )
last but not least I also have the 1 x 18 inch spare wheel (original spare wheel mag with new tyre )
I have a bloody tyre shop worth of tyres and rims here !! I only wanted the one set lol
Thinks I'm going to be busy on ebay soon. cant post pics yet as need the wheel nuts but will sort it as soon as get nuts :)

[33chinacars]

Ha Ha sounds a bit like here

5 x original 18" 5 spokes rims With Goodyear road tyres where new when I bought my TD6

4 x 18" split 5 spoke rims With Goodyear road tyres as new

4 x 18" split 5 spoke rims No tyres

+ 2 spare sets of early nuts including lock nuts

Just waiting to get some money together to buy some semi offroad tyres

Gary

[Homestar]

Soooo.... A few questions for the great brains trust out there...:D

Just got back back from the Melrose trip, in which we did about 500km of dirt/off road driving - on the 20's...:eek:

Made it back in one piece, no punctures or dramas. BUT we now have a taste for this sort of thing and the sort of places we ended up, so I now have the go ahead to turn the L322 from a pretender to a contender...

I will start a new thread on all the plans, but this thread suits my need to know about rims and tyres...

The 20's will be going, and a set of 18's to go on, with some decent all terrain tyres needed. (If anyone has a set of rims for sale I am now seriously looking) and the 20's will be on the market for those wanting a bit more bling.

Anyway, I am after 2 things here - opinions on good all terrains that people have run or are running, and secondly, has anyone thought of putting on some slowly larger diameter tyres? Only interested in clearance thoughts here, not all the other negatives some may think of. Yes I know bigger tyres will reduce the power of the car, yes I know bigger tyres will put extra stress on the driveline, yes I know bigger tyres won't fit in the spare wheel well...

I am after opinions on what the extra sidewall size would do and any clearance issues anyone thinks I may encounter.

I'll post details on the other ideas I have in a new thread. Maybe we can take the wheel and tyre discussion there as well if needed.

Cheers - Gav.:)

[harlie]

Gav, I know who asked for no negatives, and legislation talk is generally frowned upon here, but - bigger tyres are illegal, over 15mm. Agree with it or not.

My Brother in-law works for one of the major insurers, his job is to find a way to deny an insurance claim. He says 4WDs with either oversize tyres or ridiculous lift are the easiest for them, and they never loose in court. If it goes wrong...

I'm running 265/60, to my knowledge they are the largest with in the legal limit.

[Homestar]

Gav, I know who asked for no negatives, and legislation talk is generally frowned upon here, but - bigger tyres are illegal, over 15mm. Agree with it or not.

My Brother in-law works for one of the major insurers, his job is to find a way to deny an insurance claim. He says 4WDs with either oversize tyres or ridiculous lift are the easiest for them, and they never loose in court. If it goes wrong...

I'm running 265/60, to my knowledge they are the largest with in the legal limit.

Thought it was 25mm here in Vic, but I could be wrong. That is still an inch bigger. Gives a bit more sidewall on the tyre. I'll make enquiries on the legalities down here. My classic has 31's on it and is considered legal - I have had it checked and my insurance knows about them and has no issues with them.

EDIT - just found this - http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonlyres/9B3A858D-15A0-4572-90BF-3D08214BF7BE/0/VSInumber8Guidetomodificationsformotorvehicles.pdf

Section 13.3 covers tyres, and two options are given which are mutually exclusive. Option one allows for tyres up to 50mm bigger than standard if the other conditions are met - that is no more than 75mm lift total for suspension and tyres, not rubbing, not sticking out, etc.

Just checked some posts on other forums and it is agreed that 50mm larger is now acceptable in Vic.

Based on those regs, I could stick a 25mm spacer above the airsprings and still put 50mm bigger tyres on it.

I would still be checking with Vicroads & my insurance company, but it looks doable down here.

ANOTHER EDIT - Just called the Engineer who will be certifying my Series III and asked him about tyre sizes. With Engineering Certification you can go quite large indeed - a set of 33's on the L322 would be no dramas if it passed the swerve testing requirements for that vehicle. Would be a bit pricey though. Another $1,500 to $2,000 on top of the rim & tyre combo, with no guarantee it would pass the testing, but he thinks it would.

Cheers - Gav.

[glenhendry]

... so I now have the go ahead to turn the L322 from a pretender to a contender...

a set of 18's to go on, with some decent all terrain tyres needed.

Cheers - Gav.:)

I personally recommend MTs over ATs. On a Patrol you would be deaf within a week, but on a RR with $120k of body insulation you will be happy. In my opinion, if you want to make it a contender - tyres are the first thing to do.

But of course it depends on the percentage on road and off road. I have Goodyear Wrangler Duratrak mudders on my P38 (32"s instead of stock 29"s) and they are capable, quiet, good in the wet (surprisingly) and lasting well on the road. Traction control is very capable, but is improved considerably by grabbier tyres.

[Laurie]

The Evogue runs a 18 inch rim that looks good, similar to the Autobiography rims.
Does anyone know how wide the rim is and it's offset ?

The LR site doesn't have any details on wheel or rim size.

Laurie

[Laurie]

I think I just found my new rims :D Mainline Gloss Black :p now I'm confused on which ones I like :(

Land Rover Range Rover Wheels and Rims at Andy's Auto Sport (http://www.andysautosport.com/custom_wheels/land_rover/2003_9999_range_rover.html)

I will see what it costs to import :(

Laurie

[Homestar]

Looks like you would have to import them one at time for the price of some of those...:eek:

[Laurie]

Well Andy's customer service is great ! I received the following e-mail a few hours after I sent my request for delivery costs.

"Hello,

The 4 pieces of rims shipped abroad will cost you 378.94$ USD. This is just the cost of the shipping. This price includes all duty's and custom fees, and delivery to your doorstep.

Geoffrey Phillips"


This would place a large variety of the rims delivered here for $250 - $300 per rim; which is around what basic second hand rims are costing from e-bay, tyre places etc . It's the different styles available that is the attraction.

Laurie

[philmoon]

Or ... I have 7 mud tyres 5 of them on rims.... in capalaba .... see where im going with this ... Cant take my range rover off road I like it too much ;)

[33chinacars]

One thing I did notice is that most of the rims on that website have a different offset to standard RR rims . 57mm as to 30-45 mm
Just saying

[Mudguard]

Soooo.... A few questions for the great brains trust out there...:D

Just got back back from the Melrose trip, in which we did about 500km of dirt/off road driving - on the 20's...:eek:

Made it back in one piece, no punctures or dramas. BUT we now have a taste for this sort of thing and the sort of places we ended up, so I now have the go ahead to turn the L322 from a pretender to a contender...

I will start a new thread on all the plans, but this thread suits my need to know about rims and tyres...

The 20's will be going, and a set of 18's to go on, with some decent all terrain tyres needed. (If anyone has a set of rims for sale I am now seriously looking) and the 20's will be on the market for those wanting a bit more bling.

Anyway, I am after 2 things here - opinions on good all terrains that people have run or are running, and secondly, has anyone thought of putting on some slowly larger diameter tyres? Only interested in clearance thoughts here, not all the other negatives some may think of. Yes I know bigger tyres will reduce the power of the car, yes I know bigger tyres will put extra stress on the driveline, yes I know bigger tyres won't fit in the spare wheel well...

I am after opinions on what the extra sidewall size would do and any clearance issues anyone thinks I may encounter.

I'll post details on the other ideas I have in a new thread. Maybe we can take the wheel and tyre discussion there as well if needed.

Cheers - Gav.:)

Can you post a pic of the rims you will sell ? :)

[Homestar]

Here you go. They are a bit dirty from our recent trip, but they scrub up well. Have to buy some 18's and shoe them first, then these will be for sale. Let me know if you are interested. I have a mate who runs a truck to Perth each week, so don't worry about your location...

I believe they are from an 08 supercharged.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[philmoon]

These are the wheels ..... I put on the car.....
The spokey ones are the ones I'm keeping...
The muds sold on ebay this week
But thought I would show the pics to show how nice the wheels with the muds looked I was very surprised

[philmoon]

these were the drug dealer wheels ;)

[Mudguard]

Here you go. They are a bit dirty from our recent trip, but they scrub up well. Have to buy some 18's and shoe them first, then these will be for sale. Let me know if you are interested. I have a mate who runs a truck to Perth each week, so don't worry about your location...

I believe they are from an 08 supercharged.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/l322-range-rover/59112d1366011069-wheel-size-options-image.jpg

Oops, i must have missed this reply. Sorry about that bacicat. :(

Thanks for the reply, although unfortunately there not the style i was after. I would love some of the 15 spoke style. I missed the ones that were on the forum by a few days a little while back that philmoon got. :( :(

[philmoon]

Not only did I get them I bought his other pair which sold on ebay for 729 so .... I only paid 600 for all the wheels so I paid minus 129 for the 15 spokes ....
Dont get a win very often but when I do it makes all the non wins insignificant :)