2 possibly silly questions

[lpj]

Hi Forumites,
I was at an industry event last week and one of the speakers said most people go through life unaware of what certain acronyms and terms mean because they are too afraid to ask and look stupid. So at the risk of looking stupid, I have 2 questions. Here goes:

Having lurked for the best part of 2 years, I'm now in a position where I am seriously considering a purchase of a D4-like this week. I was hoping to stretch my current ride till June but I don't think she's going to make it. I'm looking at 2010 or 11 models, and I want the 3.0l. I know that SE & HSE denote option levels but I'm unsure what "Commandshift" means.

Also, on an unrelated topic and more out of interest than anything else- I have read on this forum about the FFRR- I know it’s a Rangie but what does FF stand for? Perhaps ‘four point four’, as in engine size?

I've read this forum fairly closely but if I have missed a post that explains these mysteries, please accept my apologies in advance!

LPJ

[bee utey]

Heard of google search?

Urban Dictionary: FFRR (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php'term=FFRR)

:p

[sheerluck]

No such thing as a stupid question!

CommandShift is LR's term for a semi-automatic gearbox, I.e. you have the option of sticking it in "D" and letting the vehicle choose which gear it needs, or you can move the selector across, and move up and down the gears manually (almost) as you wish.

And FFRR= "Full Fat Range Rover", to denote the full price, full size Rangie, rather than the Range Rover Sport which is based on the Discovery 3/4 platform.

[lpj]

Heard of google search?

Urban Dictionary: FFRR (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php'term=FFRR)

:p

Hence the reason people keep their mouth shut!

[lpj]

No such thing as a stupid question!

CommandShift is LR's term for a semi-automatic gearbox, I.e. you have the option of sticking it in "D" and letting the vehicle choose which gear it needs, or you can move the selector across, and move up and down the gears manually (almost) as you wish.

And FFRR= "Full Fat Range Rover", to denote the full price, full size Rangie, rather than the Range Rover Sport which is based on the Discovery 3/4 platform.

Thanks Sheerluck. I would expect almost all SE's and HSE's to be Commandshift in that case. I wonder how many got delivered that were not?

[sniegy]

With Sheerluck's response which is correct but is missing one action.

The gearbox can be used it 3 ways,

D = Fully Automatic, let it do the work for you.
S = (shift the stick to the left) Sports mode, which holds gears longer for you.
Manual Mode = (shift the stick forwards & backwards) You get to shift the gears & chose them yourself, mainly in off road mode.

All D3's & D4's, RRSports come standard with Commandshift.

Good luck & enjoy.

Cheers

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[sheerluck]

Thanks Sheerluck. I would expect almost all SE's and HSE's to be Commandshift in that case. I wonder how many got delivered that were not?

The choice is either a manual gearbox, or an auto box, which LR call CommandShift.

And D3/4s with manual gearboxes appear to be quite rare here.

[edit] Thanks Sneigy, forgot about the Sport bit.

[lpj]

With Sheerluck's response which is correct but is missing one action.

The gearbox can be used it 3 ways,

D = Fully Automatic, let it do the work for you.
S = (shift the stick to the left) Sports mode, which holds gears longer for you.
Manual Mode = (shift the stick forwards & backwards) You get to shift the gears & chose them yourself, mainly in off road mode.

All D3's & D4's, RRSports come standard with Commandshift.

Good luck & enjoy.

Cheers

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Thanks Pete,

Whatever happens, I'll be bringing it to you for servicing:)

[sheerluck]

Just as a matter of interest Sneigy, (and only a little off topic) how many manual D3/4/RRS do you see at your place?

As many as hen's teeth?

[101RRS]

And FFRR= "Full Fat Range Rover", to denote the full price, full size Rangie, rather than the Range Rover Sport which is based on the Discovery 3/4 platform.

RR owners remind me that the FF is not in fact "Fully Fat" but "Fully Featured" but I parked my RRS next to a FFRR the other day and I was surprised how much larger they are again over the RRS - so Fully Fat suits them well.

Garry

[Rohan]

Never knew about the "sport" bit in the trans. Cool.
I thought ffrr was fully fledged range rover? But full fat works :)
While we're here, is IIRC if I remember correctly?

[sheerluck]

.......While we're here, is IIRC if I remember correctly?

IIRC, yes. :D

Remember/recall, whichever works.

[lpj]

Gotta love those acronyms!

[sniegy]

Just as a matter of interest Sneigy, (and only a little off topic) how many manual D3/4/RRS do you see at your place?

As many as hen's teeth?

We sold 2 !

We service 2 !

As Porky Pig would say......

Dadadaaaddadadadadadadddaaa dats all folks.

[sheerluck]

We sold 2 !

We service 2 !

As Porky Pig would say......

Dadadaaaddadadadadadadddaaa dats all folks.

:D:D:D:D:D

I had a look on CarSales. There was one manual on there.....

[scarry]

RR owners remind me that the FF is not in fact "Fully Fat" but "Fully Featured" but I parked my RRS next to a FFRR the other day and I was surprised how much larger they are again over the RRS - so Fully Fat suits them well.

Garry


Saw a new FFRR today,in my opinion only,i recon the are Fugly.


But then again i suppose we will get used to them.:)

[Mike_S]

As I had them both at the same time for 2 days, the RRS is the same size as a P38. My Dad's Classic & L322 fit at each side of the RRS, Classic just a smidge shorter, the Full Fat's noticeably longer on the exterior, but doesn't feel it on the road.

[Tombie]

Hence the reason people keep their mouth shut!

No one meant to offend...

Think of it like this..

You work at a business and people keep coming in answering questions they could easily find the answer to. You answer a few times, but people keep coming and asking...

Eventually you get a little frustrated. :)

It happens a lot around here...

[lpj]

Not offended at all. I shouldn't be on the internet if I can't handle the odd smart a#$se response, but I did go to some lengths in my pre-amble to apologise if I was going over old ground.

I come to this site because the level of knowledge & camaraderie, that in my opinion, is well above what I'd get from a Google search.

I also like the idea of getting to know other enthusiasts. On balance so far, I am well ahead of the curve as far as the knowledge I have gained from this forum, so its all good.