ABS pump noisy

[TheTree]

My ABS pump is making a loud whining noise, a bit like a hydraulic pump with a bad bearing :(

Reading rangerovers.net, it seems if you can hear it through the firewall, then the end may be nigh !

I was wondering what my options are for buying a replacement unit. Direct from the UK, local suppliers, genuine ?

Thanks in advance :)

[PaulP38a]

Might be worth changing the ABS Accumulator first to see if it fixes the problem. Can be got at a reasonable price from one of the usual UK suppliers like p38spares, island4x4, DLS or Britishparts.

Cheers, Paul.

[Rupert Prior]

also, check the fluid flow from the reservoir is not blocked or too thick to run down to the pump.

[TheTree]

Thanks guys, i have a mate who drives a pirtek van and was the local emergency roadside mechanic in this area for many years.

We will be changing all the fluids very soon including the brake fluid and we will check what we can.

Hopefully it won't turn into a hand grenade anytime soon :wasntme:

[Hoges]

Air in the hydraulic system can also make a lot of noise when the ABS Accumulator is charging up to pressure. Be sure to follow RAVE exactly when bleeding the system.

[PaulP38a]

Thanks guys, i have a mate who drives a pirtek van and was the local emergency roadside mechanic in this area for many years.


Grab a bunch of 6mm (not 1/4") air line and fittings off him for the EAS as well. Can be really useful for making your own EAS Emergency Bypass Kit and other useful bits like pressure gauges and an on-board air supply.

[TheTree]

The Car has an emergency bypass kit already fitted, but without isolation valves.

Is it necessary to have isolation valves since there are non-return valves in the system as well?

I had a look at the mod on rangeorvers.net which added a pressure gauge and an air outlet, i reckon i will be adding that soon.

[PaulP38a]

The Car has an emergency bypass kit already fitted, but without isolation valves.

Is it necessary to have isolation valves since there are non-return valves in the system as well?

I had a look at the mod on rangeorvers.net which added a pressure gauge and an air outlet, i reckon i will be adding that soon.

Absolutely Steve... the NRV's in the Valve Block have naught to do with the air lines to the individual air springs. The reason you might put isolation valves in to the EAS is to enable you to stop the valve block form letting air in/out of the 4 air springs.

When we (Hard Range) were still selling the EAS Emergency Bypass Kit, we could not find reasonably priced and reliable isolation valves for the 5 lines (air springs plus tank). Instead, we included some extra straight-though fittings that let you remove the tee-pieces and bypass the valve block completely in the event that it sh*t itself.

Does the kit you refer to look anything like this perhaps?
http://paulp38a.com/gallery/d/2207-1/IMG_1241.JPG

[TheTree]

I like the look of your setup Paul :cool:

Here is a pic of what is in mine between the aircleaner and the EAS box.

I think in front of the aircleaner is a much better spot.

I assume the 5th valve is connected to line 6 ?

http://p38.hts.com.au/images/IMG_0072.JPG

[PaulP38a]

I assume the 5th valve is connected to line 6 ?


yep, the middle port attaches to line 6 and the gauge monitors pressure in the tank.

[TheTree]

now all I need to do is find somewhere to buy a single valve instead of a set :unsure:

[PaulP38a]

now all I need to do is find somewhere to buy a single valve instead of a set :unsure:

I still have a few, and the alloy blocks and pressure gauges if you want them. Send me a PM or email if you are interested and I will work out a reasonable price ;)

Update: just had a look through my "stuff".
I have 1 Schrader Valve left ($5)
I have plenty of alloy blocks, some with all 5 quick connects on them ($35), or with none ($10)
A few pressure gauges to mount on the block ($30)
Plenty of 6mm tee-pieces ($4)
Plenty of 6mm straight joiners ($4)
A few 6mm elbows ($4)
A few air line cutters ($10)

And one complete P38 EAS Emergency Bypass Kit $130

Post anywhere in Oz by Express Post $10.

[TheTree]

Thanks for that Paul, I will be in contact.

One question I have is, when you say alloy block I assume you are referring to the piece which holds the valves, is this drilled and tapped to take the fittings and the gauge?

[Hoges]

How did you resolve your ABS issue? :eek::eek: ;)

[PaulP38a]

One question I have is, when you say alloy block I assume you are referring to the piece which holds the valves, is this drilled and tapped to take the fittings and the gauge?

Correct.

[poleonpom]

I still have a few, and the alloy blocks and pressure gauges if you want them. Send me a PM or email if you are interested and I will work out a reasonable price ;)

Update: just had a look through my "stuff".
I have 1 Schrader Valve left ($5)
I have plenty of alloy blocks, some with all 5 quick connects on them ($35), or with none ($10)
A few pressure gauges to mount on the block ($30)
Plenty of 6mm tee-pieces ($4)
Plenty of 6mm straight joiners ($4)
A few 6mm elbows ($4)
A few air line cutters ($10)

And one complete P38 EAS Emergency Bypass Kit $130

Post anywhere in Oz by Express Post $10.

Hi Paul

I'd like an empty block, 1 Schrader valve and a guage pls. Paypal ok?

Jonathan

[PaulP38a]

I'd like an empty block, 1 Schrader valve and a guage pls. Paypal ok?

PayPal is good, PM sent.

This could get a bit busy... my sincere apologies to Steve for hijacking his thread. If anyone wants anything else, please PM me or start a new thread.

Cheers, Paul.

[TheTree]

How did you resolve your ABS issue? :eek::eek: ;)

Hoges, I haven't resolved it yet , I am not sure if the pump is just normally noisy or if it is on the way out, so I am adopting a wait and see approach !

[TheTree]

PayPal is good, PM sent.

This could get a bit busy... my sincere apologies to Steve for hijacking his thread. If anyone wants anything else, please PM me or start a new thread.

Cheers, Paul.

No worries Paul :cool:

[DandT]

Hoges, I haven't resolved it yet , I am not sure if the pump is just normally noisy or if it is on the way out, so I am adopting a wait and see approach !

Hi Steve, how did your wait and see go?

[TheTree]

Hi Steve, how did your wait and see go?

Dan,

I decided that my pump was suspect and luckily managed to pick up a good second hand one off ebay for around 175 bucks

I fitted it and it is much quieter and doesn't run as much, now I can't hear it from inside the cabin. :D

Mind you the mounting bushes seemed a bit shot and it was touching the body, so that would have made it more noisy.

Eventually i will probably replace it, but for now it is better than it was for sure, charges in around 20 secs from first start.

Steve