silly question

[LoveB]

Where are the tools located? Doesnt seem to be under the seat? Maybe the dealer forgot it?

[kenleyfred]

Tools?
My jack is located under back seats and along with the battery under passenger seat is the wheel nut thingy, a wheel chock and tyre spanner.
Thats it for supplied tools on mine.

[LoveB]

Struggling to find any in this 2012 puma. No bottle jack under rear seats.. Jnless its under all the matting. And how do i gain access to under the passengers side seat?

[Sue]

Mine are under the passenger seat.. remove the seat pad by pulling it up and slide back the cover.. it all fits back in easily enough. I'm surprised the dealer didn't show you all this. :)

[Larry]

Mine are under the passenger seat.. remove the seat pad by pulling it up and slide back the cover.. it all fits back in easily enough. I'm surprised the dealer didn't show you all this. :)

X 2.

My Td5 110 had it all under the back seat.

[dullbird]

Struggling to find any in this 2012 puma. No bottle jack under rear seats.. Jnless its under all the matting. And how do i gain access to under the passengers side seat?

Pumas dont come with a bottle jack..they come with a ratchet type jack so your looking for something long and thin, should be in a black vinyl type bag under the back seat

[muddy]

Have you checked under the passenger seat where the battery is ?

[LoveB]

All good. Found it now. Under the seat with the battery. Ann it came with a bottle jack!

[gitney]

My puma came with a bottle jack?..
It was under the passenger front seat.

[sniegy]

Pumas dont come with a bottle jack..they come with a ratchet type jack so your looking for something long and thin, should be in a black vinyl type bag under the back seat

TD5's came with ratchet jacks.
Puma's come with bottle jacks located under PASSENGER seat compartment.
;-)
Cheers

[Blknight.aus]

but is it the red rover jack or something else?

[Alra]

I picked up my 110 only a few weeks ago and had an auxiliary battery set up put in straight away. It went in under the front passenger seat with the main battery. As a result the bottle jack and its friends have been displaced of a home. Does anyone have a good storage solution? I will double check but I think my bottle jack is black.

Regards,

Danial

[Hoges]

does one normally find the jack under their seat...or is this a Deefer thing?:eek::wasntme:

[Alra]

I'm guessing it is a Deefer thing. My old D1 had the jack and associated parts in the lockers in the boot.

Cheers,

Danial.

[sniegy]

but is it the red rover jack or something else?

Same style Blacknight, but as said are now black.
Cheers

[kenleyfred]

TD5's came with ratchet jacks.
Puma's come with bottle jacks located under PASSENGER seat compartment.
;-)
Cheers

My Puma (SVX) came with the ratchet jack.

[LoveB]

All black in mine

[dullbird]

TD5's came with ratchet jacks.
Puma's come with bottle jacks located under PASSENGER seat compartment.
;-)
Cheers

Mate I have a puma and it came with a ratchet not a bottle jack ;) so we are both wrong hey :p there must of been a change somewhere down the line.

[Loubrey]

It appears 2010 onward (or thereabouts) have bottle jacks, but as always with Land Rover it could be a random thing!:D Bottle jacks, associate handles and wheel brace are always under the passenger seat.

My old 1997 300Tdi 90 came with a ratchet arrangement (180 degrees left and right on the jack action) which strapped sideways to the front cab/ rear cab bulkhead. The coils were so soft that you would jack the bumper about 400mm into the air before the wheel even looked like coming off the ground!

Not recommended, but Hi-lift and axle stands were the preferred operation to change wheels on that one! (young and silly/reckless back in those days!)

Nothing beats the old trolly for a quick wheel swap at home though!

Cheers,

Lou

[Leroy_Riding]

I picked up my 110 only a few weeks ago and had an auxiliary battery set up put in straight away. It went in under the front passenger seat with the main battery. As a result the bottle jack and its friends have been displaced of a home. Does anyone have a good storage solution? I will double check but I think my bottle jack is black.

Regards,

Danial

I've wrapped mine in bubble wrap and put them in the space under the drivers seat then packed in even more bubble wrap so it all doesn't move, Id prefer a better solution, possible when I get my rear draws, but at this stage it fits in there fine doesn't move around at all and is out of the way. .

Leroy

[Alra]

I've wrapped mine in bubble wrap and put them in the space under the drivers seat then packed in even more bubble wrap so it all doesn't move, Id prefer a better solution, possible when I get my rear draws, but at this stage it fits in there fine doesn't move around at all and is out of the way. .

Leroy

Thanks Leroy,

Like many others I've been following your thread very closely because Townsville is my closest LR dealer. I won't be going anywhere them! Hope you get you other vehicle from Mt Isa without any issues.

Cheers,

Danial.

[wrinklearthur]

All black in mine

Give them a coat with a spray can of fluoro orange, that way you can find them after they are put down in the dark.
.

[austastar]

Hi,
when you have a spare minute, pop it under the axle and lift the wheel a little.
Give it 10 minutes or so and see if your wheel is still lifted.
Mine slowly self lowers, even with the valve as tight as I can reasonably get it.
cheers

[rick130]

Unlike most I have a dislike for the Land Rover bottle jack, I reckon they are ordinary.

I tried servicing mine, new fluid, etc but ended up pegging it as I had an Armstrong 8 tonne jack that lifted the 130 a lot better.
I did find it only juuuust fits under the axle tube when you have a real flat :o
If 130's came with the older type Lou described as used in 90's and 110's I doubt I'd ever get a wheel off the deck unless I used the Hi Lift, as would anyone with increased suspension travel.

I nearly typed something else about the speed of things going down, but thought better of it :angel:

[dullbird]

the rachet one is useless...when we had the anti roll bar knuckle over at the back we jacked the car up using the ratchet, we couldnt get the car jacked up high enough and we also broke the jack while using it....

so that went in the bin pretty quick we carry the hilift and a bottle jack for the puma now

[Alra]

I'm not keen on the standard LR jack either. I have no worries with it if I get a flat while doing jobs around town, but what happens when in the rough stuff. I'm tossing up the pros and cons of an exhaust jack v hi lift.

I know the exhaust jacks are heavy to lug around and to compound that con I will only be lugging it around in travels where I am trying to cut down on weight as much as possible because the car will be loaded up with camping gear. I have never used one but I have heard testimony that they are easy to use and save a bucket load of time to change the flat.

Hi lifts scare the beejeezers out of me. I just don't trust one on anything but a totally dead flat surface. It seems a lot of hard work has to be done in preparation to make it stable and make sure the car doesn't fall down.

Ideas/opinions. I'm happy to have my mind changed on either option.

Cheers,

Danial.

[greenhornet]

I use the Toyota bottle jack.
Works great.
They come up on eBay fairly regularly.

[Blknight.aus]

I'm not keen on the standard LR jack either. I have no worries with it if I get a flat while doing jobs around town, but what happens when in the rough stuff. I'm tossing up the pros and cons of an exhaust jack v hi lift.

I know the exhaust jacks are heavy to lug around and to compound that con I will only be lugging it around in travels where I am trying to cut down on weight as much as possible because the car will be loaded up with camping gear. I have never used one but I have heard testimony that they are easy to use and save a bucket load of time to change the flat.

Hi lifts scare the beejeezers out of me. I just don't trust one on anything but a totally dead flat surface. It seems a lot of hard work has to be done in preparation to make it stable and make sure the car doesn't fall down.

Ideas/opinions. I'm happy to have my mind changed on either option.

Cheers,

Danial.

exhaust jacks have some of the same problems as highlift jacks and they can be punctured. they really come into their own in mud, sand and as a righting aid in some circumstances, they also make excellent float bags

Highlift jacks are exceptionally versatile if you know how but potentially extraordinarily dangerous

The red rover jack (now the black jack) is a very very versatile little jack and used properly is just as stable as many larger jacks and the cradle head is designed for lifting the axle and preventing the axle from slipping off of the head of the jack (a very good thing)

If I was only allowed to have one jack and the vehicle was prepared for use with that jack I would take the high lift.

If I was only allowed to have one jack and the vehicle was not prepared for use with a specific jack I would take the red rover jack.

Since neither of those conditions apply I'll take the jack thats most applicable to the scenario Im heading for and usually I'll take all 3

[Loubrey]

Hi lifts scare the beejeezers out of me. I just don't trust one on anything but a totally dead flat surface. It seems a lot of hard work has to be done in preparation to make it stable and make sure the car doesn't fall down.


The most important thing to have in your box of bits to use a hi-lift is a good quality adapter. The rod type with a proper "shoe" and a secured pin to hold the works in place.

I never, ever lift the car without the adapter and like winching, its all about good practice/ technique.

Again a very emotive issue, but hi-lifts have their rightful place in 4WD travel. I just have a good chuckle when you see a "checkbook traveller" with all the gear and no clue, including hi-lift jacks and clearly no way of actually using them on their cars...

Cheers,

Lou