Iveco Daily 4x4

[Tote]

I saw one of these on the M5 on the way home from Sydney last night. It was so high I thought it might have had portals. Unfortunately it dosen't but it looks OK in my opinion.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/05/835.jpg

3 litre 4 cylinder, 400NM of torque and 24 forward and 4 reverse gears
700mmFording depth
3 diff locks
Up to 4 PTOs
Dual Cab Chassis 86K according to carsales.com
255/100/16 tyres (36")

Daily 4*x* 4 (http://www.iveco.com.au/index.php/off-road/daily-4x4)

Regards,
Tote

[d3syd]

Nice, I like it. I am surprised that it only has a 700mm wading depth considering its height. D3/D4 has same wading depth, and new RRV has 900mm.

[iClick]

I like the idea of setting this up a custom camper. A canopy up to 2.7m long is attractive. Accessories/mods would be an issue. With a fuel capacity of only 90lt, Some long range tanks would be top of my list.

[Chops]

We have a white one of these floating around the SE of Melb too. Its got a fair amount of bar work on it too,, looks a mighty capable vehicle.

[juddy]

The mob in Brisbane who have used the Earth Cruisers, are now kitting these out, they have been involved with the pre ADR certification I believe...

[iClick]

Looks the business in action :D

Iveco Daily 4x4 YouTube (http://youtu.be/7fln45EpMkY)

[disco2hse]

Bit more like what we would see them doing.

Iveco 40.10 4x4 Georgia - YouTube

[iClick]

Niiice
iveco custom camper (http://www.custom-campers.de/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=52&Itemid=)

[Redback]

And a bit of mud
Iveco Daily 4x4 in the mud - YouTube

I like them, could be better than an OKA me thinks

Baz.

[DiscoMick]

The Daily gets a positive writeup in the Overlanding book that's discussed in another thread here in General Chat.

[LoveB]

Iveco Daily 4x4 Double cabine - YouTube


if i had the money id want one for fun lol

[goingbush]

You know if you want to draw as long bow , you could sort of say it has LandRover heritage .

The Santana Landrover became the Iveco Massif, which has been in turn superseded by the Iveco Daily

(I said a long bow)

[disco2hse]

You know if you want to draw as long bow , you could sort of say it has LandRover heritage .

The Santana Landrover became the Iveco Massif, which has been in turn superseded by the Iveco Daily

(I said a long bow)

Not that long. The Massif had the Daily engine. I would guess parts of the drive train have also been used and I see that on some, they have continued to use the koru design they had on the Massif (as part of the All Blacks promo).

[Sitec]

I ran the 2x4 version of this in the UK. It was a 2000 model Iveco 65 C15 double cab, which had the same cab as the ones pictured but with an earlier nose design. The cab was sat atop a 6.5 tonne chassis which put it at a similar height, and I had a 6' x 12' tipper body on mine which I used to haul my off roader around on. It was geared fairly low but used to haul 3 tonnes happily at 100kph. Photos on old computer so I'll have to try and dig them out!

[R2D2]

$85-$90K on road for a 4x4 Daily Dual cab tray.
Have a few at work. How many do you want?;)
SES has a couple of them of trial. Factory triple lockers.
cheers
R2

[LoveB]

how bout a test drive??

[Discomark]

I saw a couple of Iveco Daily 's at a Caravan park recently and they both had Fifth wheels for towing. The trailers were huge so they must be good tow vehicles. I think they were non 4WD version though as they seemed quite low.

[BMKal]

We bought one of these and set it up as the boilermaker's truck on site up at Nullagine. Quite nice to drive (once you get used to the wierd gear shifter in the middle of the dash) and very roomy cab (huge storage area under the back seat in the 4 door).

But we have since got rid of it and replaced it with a Mitsubishi. Things "fall off it" very easily - and the computer / electronics is a bloody nightmare. I'd never consider another one.

The best part of it was that the distributor in Perth (Skippers) does not have a branch in the Pilbara, so they send you to Corefleet rentals for any repairs or warranty work - and those idiots can't even keep their riceburner hire fleet in reasonable condition.

[Michele]

Currently I'm working at the company which builds/produces it for Iveco...
Sitting in the passenger's seat for the test drive was an experience :D

[olbod]

I remember reading somewhere a while back that they were CRAP !!!
Turned me right off em.
It was a lengthy article with great detail but I cant recall who wrote it.

[mike_ie]

Bit more like what we would see them doing.

Iveco 40.10 4x4 Georgia - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpd3XhLgNzk)


I'll be damned... I've driven on these trails, I used to live about an hours drive away from this National Park...

[3toes]

The IVECO daily is a love it or hate it vehicle. They have a poor reputation and resale value here in UK.

Italian army has them in 4x4 version and found them to be a comparative poor performers off road.

[BMKal]

The bloke who lives behind me has the Australia Post mail delivery contract for towns north & south of Kalgoorlie. He bought two Iveco Daily vans new when he won the contract.

He soon replaced both with Mercedes Sprinters. Told me that he had experienced many of the same problems that we encountered with our tray top at Nullagine - not least of which is the fact that outside of the metro area and away from the major dealers, there is virtually nobody with the capability to work on them. Apparently the Merc is much more "user friendly" and can be worked on easily by most competent mechanics - but he says that they have never really given any problems in any case.

From my experience - I wouldn't touch the Iveco, even though there are things about them that I do like.

There used to be quite a few Daily vans (and Ford Transits) getting around Kalgoorlie in various delivery roles. I've noticed lately that both models are quite rare, and the majority of vans seem to be either Mercedes or Volkswagen - there is no Merc dealer in Kalgoorlie, but the Ford dealership has recently taken on the VW agency, mainly to sell Amaroks (which are becoming very popular in the Goldfields).

[tailslide]

Currently I'm working at the company which builds/produces it for Iveco...
Sitting in the passenger's seat for the test drive was an experience :D

I have toured one of the Fiat factories in Torino (Turin) where they make the driveline components, diffs and gear boxes, and also where they assemble the Iveco Daily.

My wife is Italian and her sister lives in Torino, a family friend works at the factory and gave us a personal tour while we were visiting.

Cheers
Ron

[frantic]

Nice looking d/c but could anyone tell me where they would get spare tyres? 255/100R16 off road (Michelin XLZ by the look) are rare as rocking horse poo. If anybody knows post a link as many would be interested.

[sashadidi]

I'll be damned... I've driven on these trails, I used to live about an hours drive away from this National Park...

You lived in Georgia??? Always wanted to go, next time we visit Russia I think is the time.

[Michele]

I have toured one of the Fiat factories in Torino (Turin) where they make the driveline components, diffs and gear boxes, and also where they assemble the Iveco Daily.


Iveco Daily but not Daily 4x4 I'd say, axles are not made by Iveco ;)
engine yes...transfer case not :)

Comparing it to the MB Sprinter is like comparing apples to oranges...

It's an odd 4x4 commercial vehicle, fills a very small niche, and it's expensive...I don't generally like Iveco style/design, but in the end I'm getting used to it.

[scarry]

Mate of mine has had a 2WD one for a while,he tows a massive van with it,no probs at all.Also has a set of ramps and puts the Harley in the back as well.Fuel economy is incredible and it does a ridiculous amount of k's between services.

Also i am pretty sure it also seats 4 in the second seat.

[BMKal]

Also i am pretty sure it also seats 4 in the second seat.

Rear seat in them is huge. You could easily seat 4 on it - and the seat itself lifts up to reveal a huge storage box underneath - bigger than your average coffin. You could "seat" another full size adult in there. :p

[goingbush]

Very keen on one of these units
was musing over what I would buy if the Defender needed to be replaced.

notwithstanding any teething problems, a 200,000 km, 3 yr warranty with roadside service is a pretty good deal maker for me.

The wheel track is about 200mm greater than Defender and exactly the same as our Off Road Van - big bonus.

Daily 4*x* 4 (http://www.iveco.com.au/index.php/off-road/daily-4x4)

Iveco Daily 4x4 (http://www.goannatracks.com/Home/Iveco_Daily_4x4.html)

RidgeLine - The Iveco Daily 4x4 (http://www.traveltrucks.com.au/iveco-daily-4x4)

[sean0]

Reckon you could a lot worse...we'd love to get one to replace the VW Transporter dual cab (and make up for the long lost Defender) except the price of entry is just a little too steep...but then I can't afford a new VW or Defender either.

And given the expected demise of both the Defender and Land Cruiser dual cab chassis in the coming few years...what else is there? I've driven a Mitsubishi Canter 4x4 before...this is not an alternative!!

The funniest thing for us with respect to servicing is that here we are in a large regional community in Victoria and the nearest Land Rover dealer is four and a half hours away. No-one here amongst the local independents will touch a modern LR because none of them are prepared to invest in the bespoke coding required to sort them out...if it breaks properly then expect to get it tilt-trayed to Adelaide, Melbourne or Wagga Wagga...yet there's an Iveco service agent. Go figure.

[TerryO]

I bloke I know bought one new and the engine blew up within three months and bugger all kilometres. It took months to get a new engine supplied and fitted under warranty.

He sold it soon after and now hates them, from memory he bought a Merc to replace it.

[disco2hse]

No-one here amongst the local independents will touch a modern LR because none of them are prepared to invest in the bespoke coding required to sort them out...if it breaks properly then expect to get it tilt-trayed to Adelaide, Melbourne or Wagga Wagga...yet there's an Iveco service agent. Go figure.

Not sure what you mean by "bespoke code" since all brands and models have code that is bespoke, if it is the ECU's you are referring to. However, all modern vehicles (not just Land Rover) have ECU's, so they are no different to any other brand. The problem is, no one where you are wants to invest in the training required to service them and that is a fair call.

Having said that, you have no guarantee the Iveco service centre will support those models. They have a much wider range of ECU's, and therefore bespoke code, to invest in than other brands. I doubt there would be much call to support these vs tractor units.

[disco2hse]

I bloke I know bought one new and the engine blew up within three months and bugger all kilometres. It took months to get a new engine supplied and fitted under warranty.

He sold it soon after and now hates them, from memory he bought a Merc to replace it.

Could happen to a vehicle from any brand.

[goingbush]

Well this is one of the issues I'll be facing if I go ahead, there are many DIY OBD Diagnostic options for the Landy, Nanocom, Hawkeye, Scanguage etc that we take self service for granted

Iveco E A S Y seems to be the propierty OBD system and yes its expensive, so
If I start buggering around with DPF, EGR, CAT etc I may have to wait till waranty expires :o and hope a clone OBD reader becomes available.

[bell1975]

Rear seat in them is huge. You could easily seat 4 on it - and the seat itself lifts up to reveal a huge storage box underneath - bigger than your average coffin. You could "seat" another full size adult in there. :p

A special seat for the staff member who talks too much on long drives...:angel:

[TerryO]

Could happen to a vehicle from any brand.


Yes it could and it often does, for him the real problem was how many months it took for them to get it back on the road even under warranty.

Ask just about any truck driver what they think of the Iveco Cursor engine that Iveco trucks come standard with. I'm sure you will get some interesting responses.

Still we are all Land Rover owners here so we all should be used to owning temperamental vehicles.

[UncleHo]

Aah! you mean that they are like Leyland were,Monday build,:( Wednesday build,:) and then there was Friday build. :mad:

[sean0]

Not sure what you mean by "bespoke code" since all brands and models have code that is bespoke, if it is the ECU's you are referring to. However, all modern vehicles (not just Land Rover) have ECU's, so they are no different to any other brand. The problem is, no one where you are wants to invest in the training required to service them and that is a fair call.

Having said that, you have no guarantee the Iveco service centre will support those models. They have a much wider range of ECU's, and therefore bespoke code, to invest in than other brands. I doubt there would be much call to support these vs tractor units.

Truth on both counts. However, at least there's an actual factory approved Iveco service agent in town that you can deal with personally one-on-one if there is an issue or a warranty problem.

Land Rover on the other hand...you are on your lonesome. For example, if your D3 has a software fault in the suspension and hits the limp home setting there's no-one within hundreds of kays who can help you...as my parents learned. They ended up driving the thing home anyway.

Land Rover and Iveco are both niche brands in this country...neither really deserves to be but that's just the way it is.

[ezyrama]

Mate of mine (Electrician) had the large Iveco van, after 15 months, 2nd engine, 2nd gearbox, 3rd computer and 2nd diff (couldn't back up a driveway of only 1 in 10mtrs), Iveco ended up giving him his money back and he bought the Merc Sprinter. He loves it.

[disco2hse]

Land Rover on the other hand...you are on your lonesome. For example, if your D3 has a software fault in the suspension and hits the limp home setting there's no-one within hundreds of kays who can help you...as my parents learned. They ended up driving the thing home anyway.

Land Rover and Iveco are both niche brands in this country...neither really deserves to be but that's just the way it is.

yup

:(

[goingbush]

Went to check out a Daily 4x4 today at Arndell Park Iveco , they are very impressive, and quite imposing, I was expecting something the size of a 101 , looks and feels a lot bigger in the skin, nothing at all like the 2wd Daily you are more familliar with.

[ramblingboy42]

a number of posters have mentioned MB Sprinters......are these a 4x4?

[goingbush]

a number of posters have mentioned MB Sprinters......are these a 4x4?

No the only 4x4 MB option for us is a G-Wagon. Unimog is the next 4x4 step up.

I'm trying to build a case for the Daily 4x4 option with the Minister of Finance. 40,000 klm btwn scheduled services, The big bonus over the Defender / G-Wagon Tug is Theres room for a trades body behind the Dual Cab to carry my business equipment, wifes Art supplies and a couple of bikes , and plus all our camping gear and still be WAAY under GVM,

[Michael2]

a number of posters have mentioned MB Sprinters......are these a 4x4?

Victorian Ambulance trialled some 4x4 Sprinters a few years ago. They were all manuals.

[33chinacars]

Rear seat in them is huge. You could easily seat 4 on it - and the seat itself lifts up to reveal a huge storage box underneath - bigger than your average coffin. You could "seat" another full size adult in there. :p

That's for the OBM (On Board Mechanic). :p:wasntme:

[goingbush]

did a bit of an overlay, just to check the proportion with our Caravan. interesting comparison,
Btw the Daily 4x4 is 133" wheelbase,

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/08/1557.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/08/1558.jpg

width x height x length
Landrover 110 1791 x2134 x4600
Landrover 101 1828 x 2184 x 4089
Daily Dual Cab 2016 x 2629 x 5432

For such a high vehicle rollover angle is still great @ 40 degrees.

[33chinacars]

Nice comparison there goingbush. Can you do one for the 130 D/C

Gary

[sashadidi]

A interrnet search in forum throws up a few complaints just like our Land Rovers!!!!
I guess it is down to what real support there is and how well the dealer really knows the car just like Landrovers.

From defender 2 site:
Defender2 - View topic - Would you trade your Puma for an Iveco Massif? (http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic2891.html?highlight=iveco+problem)
Before bought my defender I tried for 3 days the Massif...................



I bought the Defender!!!!!



My Iveco light truck (same engine and gerabox of Massif) i two Years:

3 turbos
2 gearboxes
1 engine
6 (yes six) EGR valve
3 High pressure fuel pump
2 Vacuum servo
1 Instrument cluster

and....

- brakes still blocked (3 Iveco investigations w/o results)
- Gearbox absolutely not hard, more than hard when changing from 1st to 2nd and from 2nd to 3rd
- when empty +/- 5 - 6 km/l, when fully charged ...........................
- Electrical circuits: always problem
- ............

[solmanic]

One or two on Carsales at the moment. $86K with lockers all along the drivetrain.

2013 Iveco Daily 55S17W Manual Overdrive (http://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/details/Iveco-Daily-2013/AGC-AD-13467409/?Cr=0&sdmvc=1)

[goingbush]

One or two on Carsales at the moment. $86K with lockers all along the drivetrain.


2013 Iveco Daily 55S17W Manual Overdrive (http://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/details/Iveco-Daily-2013/AGC-AD-13467409/?Cr=0&sdmvc=1)


Interesting to note the 2wd next to the 4x4 (in the first image), the size differance is obvious.
The mirror on top of the passenger door is handy, helps you see where you are putting the front wheel (parking)

Also the road tyres look a bit anaemic, If we go ahead I'll be ordering the 3rd party 17x9” On-Road/Off-Road Rims and tubeless Hankook 37x12.5R17 LT Dynapro MT Tyres (37") , no speed limiter :)

you can also get 16x6.5 w Michelin XZL 255/100R16 , but the truck is then speed limited to 100k in the ECU, ( but 101 owners will be happy XZL will now be in the country )

[goingbush]

Nice looking d/c but could anyone tell me where they would get spare tyres? 255/100R16 off road (Michelin XLZ by the look) are rare as rocking horse poo. If anybody knows post a link as many would be interested.

255/100R16 XZL are now on Michelin Australia website, last time I did this search they were not,

Michelin Australia - Tyre Selector - transport.michelin.com.au (http://transport.michelin.com.au/tbtyre/findalltyre/getTyreDetailNode/125)

personally I'd be going the 3rd party option, 17x9” On-Road/Off-Road Rims and tubeless Hankook 37x12.5R17 LT Dynapro MT Tyres

[goingbush]

I guess you can tell I'm keen on one of these.

a bit more research reveals the Iveco Daily 4x4 is a SCAM Light Tactical Truck, made by SCAM (pity about the name - in both cases) SCAM SpA - Light Tactical Vehicles - SCAM Spa (http://www.scamtrucks.it/page-_en) , with a Iveco Daily cab on it.

EcoDaily 4x4: il più piccolo camion offroad ad alte prestazioni - YouTube

to get a better idea of the height compared to a Defender, The Top of the ARB bullbar is the same height as the top of the Black plastic bumper on the Daily 4x4, but still a respectable 40 deg rollover angle

yet to find a diagram to make sense of why it needs twin Turbos

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/1171.jpg

[iClick]

I guess you can tell I'm keen on one of these.

Yup - I am too, but it's going to take a lottery win for me to get what I'd like: IVECO 4x4 Doka Custom Campers (http://www.custom-campers.de/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=52&Itemid=)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/08/1411.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/08/1412.jpg

BTW - since I last looked at the site, they've added some pics of a crash. Looks like the truck had an incident on a straight section of road whilst involved in some sort of rally. Support vehicle perhaps, too fast + tyre blowout? Who knows but looks nasty. Camper looks OK but cab is somewhat more aerodynamic :eek:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/08/1413.jpg

EDIT: Found some more info about this conversion: Expedition vehicle based on the new model Iveco Daily 4x4 (http://extrem4x4.pl/index.php/ciekawe-wyprawowki/category/151-iveco-4x4) - polish site, use google translate

and short video:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fln45EpMkY

[rb30gtr]

My oldest brother is an off-site mechanic for a drilling mob, just got 4x4 Daily a few months ago supplied by the company. It has to be close to a meter taller than the D3.
Still loving it, with no issues, carry's decent loads and will tow up to and over 5 ton when needed without complaint, and is great in the slippery stuff.

If you want to see a lethal off-road truck, do some searching on the Unimog U-500 Black Edition, hilariously huge!

[disco2hse]

I guess you can tell I'm keen on one of these.

a bit more research reveals the Iveco Daily 4x4 is a SCAM Light Tactical Truck, made by SCAM (pity about the name - in both cases) SCAM SpA - Light Tactical Vehicles - SCAM Spa (http://www.scamtrucks.it/page-_en) , with a Iveco Daily cab on it.

[snipped]


Curiously, most of the video is filmed northwest of Auckland.

[rick130]

yet to find a diagram to make sense of why it needs twin Turbos

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/1171.jpg


Looks like compound turbo's.

If so, a better way to do it than a VNT ;)

[goingbush]

Looks like compound turbo's.

If so, a better way to do it than a VNT ;)

That would explain this then.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

400Nm from 1200 thru 3000 is pretty impressive

[spudboy]

When you see one in the flesh, you'll be surprised at how big they are, like waaay bigger than a 130.

They are a great idea, so I hope they get the early bugs sorted out, as it's a good alternative to a land rover. But ATM there's still too many stories of people who had horror runs with them.....

[sean0]

They are a great idea, so I hope they get the early bugs sorted out, as it's a good alternative to a land rover. But ATM there's still too many stories of people who had horror runs with them.....

:D:D:D Says the Land Rover owner....imagine what the Toyota, Nissan and Mitsubishi owners might say ;)

[rick130]

Looks like Essential Energy (the old Country Energy here in NSW) has a few, passed one this arvo, geez it's big :eek:

[billy bob]

Saw one in person today.
Pulled over and stared at it for about 3 minutes.
Mighty impressive vehicle.
Tray wasn't much longer than a landcruiser, but for the same wheelbase you got a dualcab.
Looked like it i'd go anywhere.
Twin turbo is same idea as Amarok, am guessing

[Ratel10mm]

Ok, this is not exactly relevant to the IVECO, but did you know that Ford has a 4x4 Transit available? I don't know how it compares to the IVECO in dim's etc. I've driven both (many years ago) & thought the Transit the better van at the time. Overall of the vans in this class I've driven (a fair few) think the Transit is my favourite. Just a bit too tall in the old rwd versions though - car parks they can fit into are few & far between in the UK. ;)

[PhillH]

Having noted in another thread that the 6x6 perentie requires you to have a light truck licence in QLD (not something I had considered in my dreaming) because of its GVM, would the Daily also need something more then a standard licence to drive? Does this have other implications to driving (log books, hours, rest periods etc)?

Phill

[Tote]

Log books are required under national regulations on any vehicle with a GVM or GCM over 12 tonnes unless it is a bus in which case the GVM is 4.5 tonnes and it has a seating capacity of over 12.
So I doubt it would apply to the Iveco.
In NSW at least you can drive anything up to 4.5 tonnes on a car licence

Regards,
Tote

[goingbush]

from Iveco

It is possible to register your Iveco 4x4 as 4495Kg or 5200Kg. At 4495Kg the advantages are being able to drive on a standard car license and also avoid any 12 month road worthy inspections that are applicable in some states.

making a payload capacity of either 1750 or 2455 depending on your rego category

As we both have a HC licence I'm still undecided which way to go ??

[Graeme]

It is possible to register your Iveco 4x4 as 4495Kg or 5200Kg.If initially registered as 4495kg, can it later be re-registered at 5200kg? I understand that GVM-increased other 4wds cannot ever have their GVM increased if they have already been registered at the original lower GVM.

[Davehoos]

the iveco vans I have service-the car lience model had single rear tyres.

we have sales reps with Renault,fiat and benz van that have said the same ting.

the dual tyre axle will fit,so to increase the GVM you go down that route.
but recently they don't like you doing that.

[goingbush]

Either load category of the 4x4 in question has single rear wheels, unlike the Iveco Vans and older 4x4 Ivecos there is no dual rear wheel option on the new Iveco - SCAM 4x4

all options are singles and can be registered 4500 or 5200 GVM

Standard Wheels: Steel 6” x 17.5” Tyres: 9.5R17.5
Option Wheels: 6.5” x 16” Tyres: 255/100R16 - 100km/h speed limited
Third Party (approved- ROH ) Wheels: 9" x 17" Tyres: 37x12.5R17 LT

[bobslandies]

from Iveco

It is possible to register your Iveco 4x4 as 4495Kg or 5200Kg. At 4495Kg the advantages are being able to drive on a standard car license and also avoid any 12 month road worthy inspections that are applicable in some states.

making a payload capacity of either 1750 or 2455 depending on your rego category

As we both have a HC licence I'm still undecided which way to go ??

It's not mandatory to carry that around all the time if you can occasionally tow extra weight. Many motorhomes are right up at the car licence limit before you put your food, goods, etc in them
What is the GCM or GTM of the Iveco? If it's not specified (which would be very unusual these days) in NSW you can tow 1.5 times the tare weight of the towing vehicle - braked trailer of course.

BTW there are quite a few OKAs on Gumtree at the moment.

Bob

[goingbush]

It's not mandatory to carry that around all the time if you can occasionally tow extra weight. Many motorhomes are right up at the car licence limit before you put your food, goods, etc in them
What is the GCM or GTM of the Iveco? If it's not specified (which would be very unusual these days) in NSW you can tow 1.5 times the tare weight of the towing vehicle - braked trailer of course.

BTW there are quite a few OKAs on Gumtree at the moment.

Bob

5200 GVM plus 3500 trailer = 8700 GCM on truck licence
or 4500 plus 3500 = 8000 on car license

thanks, will check gumtree

some good detail pics in this link
http://www.arvi.fr/Le_vehicule/SCAM/ST35_55-et-35S18W-55S18W/index.html

[goingbush]

Took one for a test drive today, had 8000km on it and still felt pretty tight, also bit light in the rear as it only had an empty tray, apparantly not a problem once a body is on the back.

LLL..Loved it :D

split/ dual range transfer box with 2 levers is a ripper, Direct drive in the transfer case is 1:1 then there are two low ranges 1:1.244 which is good for towing around town or in the hills
and 1:3.115 or 1.3.866 LOW/high & Low/Low
(the "mid range" has synchro & can be changed in any gear on the fly- sort of like a roverdrive)

Main gearbox is a ZF 400nm 6 speed 1st = 5.373 , 5th = 1:1 6th = .791

diffs = 4.871

Tyres = 37" :eek:
Hankook 37x12.5R17 LT Dynapro MT Tyres, not exactly an easy size to find

I could feel a bit of a wobble, as with most big muddies they are hard to keep balanced, that might be an issue, the only other tyres in that size like the BFG AT are not load rated for the truck.

The three diff locks , front / center / rear are hydraulically operated via pushbuttons on the dash thru a 12v hydraulic pump. The front difflock has a really anoying buzzer like a reversing buzzer going off in the cabin, but removed on the truck I drove. You would have to be brain dead to not know the front locker is engaged. (they have light to show diff lock/s engaged)

Front air suspension seats are excellent & very comfortable, but Val sitting in the back bench seat also commented on how smooth & quiet it rode. It drove pretty much like a Toyota Hiace with the same gearstick coming out the dashboard, except you are sitting a meter higher, but apart from the height somehow did not feel all that truck like.

Despite its size parking is a snap, except obviously the 2.6m height dissalows a lot of suburbain parking options & garages.

I didn't take it offroad as was in suburbain Brisbane but tried low range and I'm suitably impressed

Also a very good feature, if there are any errors the error code readout displays on the dashboard, you can self diagnose without a scan tool,
and you can buy an OBD adaptor to connect via wifi to IVECO so a service guy can read & clear faults remotely .

wheres my pen !

[spudfan]

For sale over here
Iveco Daily 4x4 For Sale in Carlow, Carlow from _Charlie_ (http://www.adverts.ie/car-parts-accessories/iveco-daily-4x4/3545466)

[spudfan]

Positive review from Australian Outback test on Youtube
Iveco Daily 4x4 test - Allan Whiting - YouTube

[303gunner]

Curiously, most of the video is filmed northwest of Auckland.
Ahh, so that's why it needs "Strengthness". :angel: (Why would they make a Spanglish video in NZ?)

[disco2hse]

Ahh, so that's why it needs "Strengthness". :angel: (Why would they make a Spanglish video in NZ?)

Santana had a deal with the All Blacks to promote the Massif. Iveco seem to have inherited the deal when they bought Santana.

[goingbush]

now this would be a worry

Problem iveco daily, brak mocy - YouTube

btw code 148 = A/C relay,
probably a case of too much information

[iClick]

Have you read this blog? (http://www.bluesnoopy.com/2011/09/05/engine-failure-%E2%80%93-iveco-error-code-148) They make some interesting points that relate to a similar error but go on to discuss touring Aus with an Iveco truck.

[spudboy]

now this would be a worry

Problem iveco daily, brak mocy - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcnTXTwRAEk)

btw code 148 = A/C relay,
probably a case of too much information

Mehhh - I've had an Alfa.

Just Italian electronics :D

Nothing to worry about!

[Sitec]

IMO, Iveco have developed well with the modern styling etc as the Daily Van range and the Stralis Trucks look great. They still suffer with build quality though. Add to this poor build quality the over use of electrics and you have a recipe for disaster. As said before, I owned a 65 C15, and it was not without its problems.. The double cab was huge, but the dash was very plasticky.. It rattled badly. The engine had several sensor faults, so for several months it had no torque what so ever... Ended up being a simple boost sensor, but it took $3000 to work that out. The gearbox was never smooth with selection, and the rear mounts in the double cab kept cracking, and needed plating to withstand on road use... What it'd be like in an off road application..... Who knows! That said, once sorted, the engine pulled well. Dad ran a hire business in the UK for many years and at one point the whole fleet was Dailys and they handled the abuse.
The later Iveco Cursor engine is now used in Case Magnum tractors and headers... (Only because Cummins became too difficult to deal with in the Agricultural sector I believe), so it has to be reasonably good...

If I was spending that sort of money on a large four wheel drive tourer, I'd be looking at an OKA first, or an ex army Unimog (Grays online ATM), and the Iveco would sadly be a distant third. The other option is a decent Merc truck, with a body on the back! Needless to say, I don't warrant enough mile for one, so I've settled for a 101 which is getting the Cummins 6Bt treatment!! :cool:

[billy bob]

Do you have a build thread for your cummins transplant?

[Dougal]

I settled for a 101 which is getting the Cummins 6Bt treatment!! :cool:

You saw the reply on 4btswaps? 6x6 with a 6bt is still going strong.

[goingbush]

I did it .....



a sale of a dual cab 4x4 in Sydney fell through for whatever reason

and now its mine :banana: :banana: :banana:

normally a 5 month wait , I have 2 weeks , its getting delivered to Brisbane and I'm having 35" tyres fitted to 17x9 rims (no speed limiter) , Black alloy bar, HID upgrade, 3500 kg tow bar and then I'll drive it to Melb to build a body for the back.


Ive decided to build the box myself from coolroom panels and extrusions.

When I take possession I'll do a new thread on the build, thats if I'm still welcome here



https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/01/612.jpg

[weeds]

I did it .....



a sale of a dual cab 4x4 in Sydney fell through for whatever reason

and now its mine :banana: :banana: :banana:

normally a 5 month wait , I have 2 weeks , its getting delivered to Brisbane and I'm having 35" tyres fitted to 17x9 rims (no speed limiter) , Black alloy bar, HID upgrade and then I'll drive it to Melb to build a body for the back.


Ive decided to build the box myself from coolroom panels and extrusions.

When I take possession I'll do a new thread on the build, thats if I'm still welcome here





look forward to the build thread, i followed a thread on myswag of a guy that built his third camper trailer (well no.3 was is a monster caravan) and its all glued together using insulated panel.......he is a member on here as well

[weeds]

look forward to the build thread, i followed a thread on myswag of a guy that built his third camper trailer (well no.3 was is a monster caravan) and its all glued together using insulated panel.......he is a member on here as well

might be some good ideas in this thread MK7 - Camper (Oh No it's a caravan!) (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=28199.0)

[goingbush]

That looks just totally professional, I think mines more likely to look like a U-Haul box or pie truck , Anyway after just unloading my pockets its going to have to be totally DIY.

I got an idea from Sitec to make it a 3 point mounting onto the chassis to counter the not insignificant chassis flex on full axle articulation, current idea is to mount the body using defender trailing arm rubbers NTC9027 , two at the back and one in the center on the front of the box.

[spudboy]

When I take possession I'll do a new thread on the build, thats if I'm still welcome here



I'm looking forward to seeing your build thread, and especially to hear how you get on with the reliability of it.

I too looked at one, and was very impressed. In the end I decided upon another path (for which I might post up a thread soon), but I'll be following your thread for sure (should it eventuate).

For a start - whack up some photos so we can all take a look at it.

Cheers
David

[goingbush]

not my truck but I had the opportunity to crawl under another customers vehicle today. When I get mine I'll take some pics with Defender next to it.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/1223.jpg
from rear looking forward to the transfer case, not sure why it has a DC shaft since the diff and tc flanges are in the same plane. A bit dissapointed no grease nipples on unis or props

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/1224.jpg
front wheel local 17x9 option w 37x12.5R17 Hankook, have to love the approach angle.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/1225.jpg
looking up from the front, note transfer case is remote, prop at the top comes from the gearbox, bottom prop is heading for the front diff

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/1226.jpg
front diff, bigger than a Salisbury

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/1227.jpg
steering knuckle, runs a universal joint, on full lock you can look in the gap and see the uni, Its full time 4wd with a center diff but you cant feel it wobble around corners

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/1228.jpg
looking forward, clearly see the parabolic leaf springs. bracket hanging down with the 4 silver nuts holds the front sway bar - thats goin in the bin.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/1229.jpg
spare wheel winch, the wheel / tyre is about 70kg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/1230.jpg
big hole on the right is the cabin fresh air inlet, there is a HEPA filter in there. = filtered clean air , thats something I haven't experienced before.
The tank is engine coolant, eek no red oat

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/1231.jpg
the radiator and intercooler are all alloy, no plastic tanks, Intercooler is huge with silicone hoses, radiator is under intercooler , not stacked together,
transmission cooler and a/c condensor in front, big drum on left is the air cleaner.

it dosen't look easy to work on the engine, going to take some head scratching to disable that EGR,

[spudboy]

Interesting pics. Thanks for posting.

Going to be a great project.

I've got a bit of info on insulated panels of you are going down that path. I'm using 45mm fibreglass panels with high density insulation in the middle, the same as they use in refrigerated trucks.

[James]

Ive decided to build the box myself from coolroom panels and extrusions.

[img]

A few years ago there was a left hand drive Bremach T-Rex touring Australia.
It had been had fitted with a very good insulated panel camper box.

There is some information about the build on Oliver Reinhard's website.
If I remember correctly he put quite a lot of effort into mounting the box to the chassis with some custom silent blocks.

It looked to be a very good setup.

https://sites.google.com/site/oliverreinhard/expeditionsmobil

[Dougal]

How many turbos on these? Some Iveco 3 litres have a factory compound setup with two turbos. Not too different in function to the 3.0 TDV6 in the disco 4.

[goingbush]

How many turbos on these? Some Iveco 3 litres have a factory compound setup with two turbos. Not too different in function to the 3.0 TDV6 in the disco 4.

yes, twin turbo , makes for a very flat torque curve,
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/1171.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/09/1447.jpg

[billy bob]

Wow, 5 month wait would be a bit hard to handle.
Congratulations

[spudboy]

yes, twin turbo , makes for a very flat torque curve,
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/1171.jpg



Oooh - that looks simple to fix :eek:

[goingbush]

Heres a good wrap on the Daily 4x4
Iveco Daily 4x4 Review | Trade Trucks Australia (http://www.tradetrucks.com.au/news-reviews/2013/8/iveco-daily-4x4-review/)




You kiss goodbye to the notion of a four-wheel-drive truck being purely an austere workhorse the moment you get behind the wheel of the latest creation from IVECO, the 4x4 Daily.

It would gladden the heart of many an old (even not so old) soldier to sit behind the wheel or even in the passenger's seat of the luxurious IVECO with its comfortable seats and its air-conditioned cab.

As if all the storage compartments, the cup holders and the well-appointed stereo with extra DIN ports to satisfy the needs of a communications-needy 21st century workforce weren't enough, IVECO has even fitted heating units to the generously-sized, electrically-operated rear vision mirrors.

In days gone by the term 'utilitarian' was often used as a euphemism for 'Spartan', however in terms of reference to the Daily, the phraseology would most certainly be taken to mean that the vehicle would feel equally at home as a recreational vehicle driving down a country road on a summer day, as it would, climbing up a mountain track on a rescue mission in the middle of winter.

The IVECO Daily 4x4 is powered by a three-litre, 16-valve, common rail, Euro 5 compliant EEV (enhanced environmentally-friendly vehicle) diesel engine which outputs 170hp at around 3000rpm, quite a feat for a three-litre engine!

This quietly-spoken powerplant is fitted with a double stage twin-turbo system for improved combustion and an exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) unit with a diesel particulate (DPF) filter, eliminating the need for an SCR system and of course an AdBlue tank.

Transmission is by way of a six-speed gearbox, operated by a nifty little gear lever mounted on the dash.

The gearbox is coupled to a central transfer box with two reduction gears, giving the vehicle 24 forward gear options, including the two- and four-wheel-drive configurations, and a further four reverse options.

Two levers for these are situated between the front seats, with further selections being performed by electric switches on the dash panel. Although it might sound complicated in print, the actual operation is really quite simple once seated at the controls.

Our test vehicle was a cab and chassis unit, fitted with road tyres, eliminating any possibility of putting the truck through its paces in an off-road situation.

However, a nearby paddock provided ample opportunity for the team to get a pretty good appreciation of what the IVECO would be like away from the comfort of the tar-sealed road.

The multi-function, multi-setting bellows seat provided plenty of comfort in a paddock that was rough enough for the team's hapless photographer to almost break an ankle when stepping in a rabbit hole.

Evidently there weren't any rabbits around, though, who were of a size capable of digging holes deep enough to put the Daily's three diff-lock options to any serious sort of test.

One feature we were able to try out was the truck's turning circle, which, it must be said, is tight, even by two-wheel drive standards. An old-time phrase used by drivers of this writer's generation — 'the thing turns on a sixpence, mate' — sprang immediately to mind.

While the previous analogy is somewhat of an exaggeration, the facts speak for themselves, as the left and right turning circles are in fact 12.2m and 13.4m respectively.

The IVECO 4x4 Daily is by no means, a small vehicle, as it stands around 2.4 metres tall (the stud-height of your average suburban house) and has a ground clearance of 300mm.

And even a casual look under the machine reveals a vast array of anti-roll stabiliser bars, which indicate the truck is really built to do the business.

The IVECO Daily 4x4 is a very impressive piece of kit all right, with myriad possibilities for applications in the workplace. It comes in single-cab and dual-cab configurations, with short and medium wheelbase options as well.

It would make an ideal rapid-response vehicle for a fire authority or disaster response unit and would make an ideal light-recovery vehicle. Incidentally, that front bumper may look like it's made of plastic but it's not! Give it a tap and you soon realise that it's made of solid steel.

While electric/hydraulic power packs are commonly used to power ancillary units, such as hoists and cranes these days, the IVECO Daily 4x4 comes fitted with provision to fit a power-takeoff which gives this not-so-little beauty added appeal to those wanting torun a variety of applications in the field.

So if you happen to be looking for a multi-purpose four-wheel-drive truck with a carrying capacity of three tonnes, the IVECO Daily 4x4 could be the truck for you. The Daily is packed with other features too numerous to mention, such as a 90-litre fuel tank and halogen head and fog lights, along with dual reversing lights, and the handy kerb side observation mirror makes roadside parking a doddle.


bit of a mistake in article, there is no two wheel drive option, the truck is constant 4x4 with 68-32 torque split and center diff lock, plus front & rear diff locks standard.

[goingbush]

Oooh - that looks simple to fix :eek:

Mate, the engine manual is amazing. Best I have ever seen.
you would not believe the detail they goes into, even includes drafting plans on how to mill up special tools, timing pins, pullers etc

seriously the engine is difficult to access in situ, you pull the front off and slide the engine forward, much easier than lifting the body off a Disco.

good thing is I don't have to worry about it for the first 200.000km / 3 years. ( already found a way to fix the EGR - (conveluted chrome pipe in the photo) and ECU should still think it there ,( same method as LC200 )

[Davo]

Wow! Here I am, watching this thread keep popping up and wondering what all the fuss was about without actually reading it. I'm glad I did. If I was in the market for something new I'd definitely be considering these. They'd be excellent up here. (I might buy a few on credit and just put Toyota badges on the front. They'll sell then. :p)

Have fun with it and be sure to post lots of piccies.

[goingbush]

Wow! Here I am, watching this thread keep popping up and wondering what all the fuss was about without actually reading it. I'm glad I did. If I was in the market for something new I'd definitely be considering these. They'd be excellent up here. (I might buy a few on credit and just put Toyota badges on the front. They'll sell then. :p)

Have fun with it and be sure to post lots of piccies.

Thanks, will give you a hoy when we are in the crossing.

Heres a pic stolen from Ridgeline who are doing my add on bits, mine will be the same but black satin bar instead of polished alloy, same wheels too, you don't appreciate how imposing they are till you see it in the flesh,

Because of the ADR's low beams are actually in the bar because the Headlights are too high, and the now empty factory low beam location is getting some bonus HID flood lights.

http://www.traveltrucks.com.au/images/Sahara_Bar_Type_1.2.jpg

8 sleeps to go :)

[Sitec]

I got an idea from Sitec to make it a 3 point mounting onto the chassis to counter the not insignificant chassis flex on full axle articulation, current idea is to mount the body using defender trailing arm rubbers NTC9027 , two at the back and one in the center on the front of the box.

Make sure you put the single mount at the rear, as however much the chassis twists between the back of the cab and the back axle, the overhanging legs will do the same in the opposite direction... If you have the two mounts at the rear, each time you go off road the box will be doing the polar opposite to the cab with every decent hole/twist you do... (as much as 300mm in the opposite direction in serious twist situations!).. As long as the double mount is at the front, the body will move independently to the cab but won't be exaggerated.. Somewhere here I have an 'Iveco' body building and tech spec for the first of the new gen Dailys... If you want PM me with a PO address and I'll send them over to you...
Interested in that Remote Full time transfer box... Still deciding as to wether an LT230 will cope with a 240 hp Cummins 6Bt and ZF 5 speed in the 101???!!! :)

[goingbush]

Make sure you put the single mount at the rear, as however much the chassis twists between the back of the cab and the back axle, the overhanging legs will do the same in the opposite direction... If you have the two mounts at the rear, each time you go off road the box will be doing the polar opposite to the cab with every decent hole/twist you do... (as much as 300mm in the opposite direction in serious twist situations!).. As long as the double mount is at the front, the body will move independently to the cab but won't be exaggerated.. Somewhere here I have an 'Iveco' body building and tech spec for the first of the new gen Dailys... If you want PM me with a PO address and I'll send them over to you...
Interested in that Remote Full time transfer box... Still deciding as to wether an LT230 will cope with a 240 hp Cummins 6Bt and ZF 5 speed in the 101???!!! :)

Thanks for the tip, that would be embarrassing & look stupid if I mounted the body module backwards.
I have the body builders manual here, and its another great Iveco document.

in homers voice, drooling
"mmmmm ........ remote transfer box "
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/1131.jpg

[Davo]

Thanks, will give you a hoy when we are in the crossing.

Heres a pic stolen from Ridgeline who are doing my add on bits, mine will be the same but black satin bar instead of polished alloy, same wheels too, you don't appreciate how imposing they are till you see it in the flesh,

Because of the ADR's low beams are actually in the bar because the Headlights are too high, and the now empty factory low beam location is getting some bonus HID flood lights.


8 sleeps to go :)

Hmmm, thinking ahead, are we? :p I'll probably still be up here . . .

I was thinking that I may have seen a couple of these in the last year or so. I seem to remember wondering what the odd-looking things were pulling caravans or something. Odd in the sense that they weren't the usual bonnetted configuration, but not as big as a truck, either.

[chuck]

Going Bush

Looks great will look forward to seeing photos of yours.

Do you know how much Grand Ridge camping modules start at.

Cheers

[carlschmid2002]

Can someone confirm to me that these are Australian Made. If they are I am going to buy one. Checked one out today and was very impressed. It might mean giving up the LR.

[goingbush]

Can someone confirm to me that these are Australian Made. If they are I am going to buy one. Checked one out today and was very impressed. It might mean giving up the LR.

Definetly not made in Australia.
They are made in Italy by SCAM SpA - Light Tactical Vehicles - SCAM Spa (http://www.scamtrucks.it/page-_en)

The Iveco cabin, Fiat engine and ZF gearbox are about the only thing common with the more familiar Iveco Daily 2wd Cab chassis trucks, everything else is from the Tactical Truck.

[4runnernomore]

Any updates yet?

Look forward to seeing your continued build and evaluation of the new Beasty

cheers, Chris

[blitz]

This post and a few others n here show to me that there is a very real market for a 4x4 that is much bigger than a 'normal' 4x4, I went very close to buying an NT model OKA but they went leg up.

This may be it I dunno but I'm still looking as I want a vehicle I can live in for extended periods of time while traveling / touring. I don't want to tow a camper or a caravan as I want to tow a boat. It is a few years off yet but always looking. My criteria is a real 4x4 off real off road, large enough to take fuel and water for extended periods away from civilization but not huge - I.E. an ex army unimog.

Oh and relatively speaking limited electronics or proven reliability - fact is what I want may not exist :-(

[goingbush]

Going Bush

Looks great will look forward to seeing photos of yours.

Do you know how much Grand Ridge camping modules start at.

Cheers

I do not know of Grand Ridge camping modules

but here is a cut and paste from a Ridgeline document



V1: DIY KIT
Manufactured to allow the handyman or tradesman to complete the internal construction and layout to suit your individual requirements.
Price $22,900/$19,945 (Single/Dual Cab)
V2: Adventurer
The ready to explore model. 130Lt water tank, full size double bed, 120Lt fridge freezer, and kitchen area with significant storage.
Price $53,050/$50,300 (Single/Dual Cab)
Attached is a floor plan of the single cab version.
The Dual cab is 500mm shorter with the 500 taken from the area between the bed and kitchenette.
V3: Explorer
Currently under development is our fully equipped version with all the above plus hot and cold shower, toilet, large double bed, 65Lt designated drinking water tank, grey water tank, and Diesel air & water heater.
The ideal extended travel unit Price TBA once completed.
Camper options and upgrades include:
 192W or 248 W Solar panelling
 Side windows
 Inverter
 Battery charger
 Shore power
 Extra storage draws
You are welcome to make an appointment to visit us at Unit 3 111 South Pine Road BRENDALE, on Brisbane's North Side.



I have been so busy with my truck that believe it or not Ive not taken a single photo of it, Stupid me I had it next to the Defender today , they wont be together again till Tuesday when the Landy gets put on a truck for Melbourne. but will try to get some size comparison photos.

It was delivered to Brisbane by an Iveco contract driver and had 1050km on it when handed over, possibly the driver wanted to test the truck out on something other than blacktop as its normally a 850km trip.

It was scheduled to arrive at 1.00 but arrived at 4.00 Tuesday (hmm missing 3 hours and 200km add up) and I took it directly to Strathpine DoT to get registered , first drive I thought 'oh what have I done' the truck was so rough riding and back jarring on suburbain roads that I thought this is going to be useless in the dirt. Got it home to find the 9.5R17.5 Michelin XZY road tyres on 105psi rear and 65psi front , I immediately dropped the pressure to 55 / 45

I had been scoping a tray to put on the back, one that I could carry the 5 off road rims and other stuff back to Melbourne, and found a perfect Mine Spec Steel Tray from a GU Patrol 2020 wide x 2300 long on Gumtree at Mt Tamborine , 2 hours south of where we are staying at Bribie Island so went down to collect it on Wednesday.

Drive to Tamborine was a good test drive, The lower tyre pressure made a big improvment in ride, the truck other than being bouncy drives more like a car, its VERY quiet, gears and clutch are more like a Holden Barina than a Truck. Driving position is very commanding if you pull up next to a proper truck like Mack or Kenworth you are eye level with the driver. :eek:

Got to Tamborine and Jason had the tray propped up on 44-gallon drums ready for me to back under, or so he thought, still about 600mm to raise it !! I bolted some 4x4 timber across the frame and sat the tray down on them , (as the GU rails are about 200mm wider than the truck) and Jason kindly strapped the tray down to the 4x4 with speed brace.

On the way home with the weight of the Tray, (must be at least 300kg ) the truck felt so much nicer, not skittish at all like before and no more bucking bronco ride :D , tho I cant try it off road for now because the tray is only temporary attached, the flex in the chassis in offroad would tear the speed brace apart.

Thursday I fitted reversing camera and Trailer brake controller and converted 13 pin euro trailer plug to 7 pin Trailer plug which took some nutting out, with diodes etc as the iveco is bulb sensing, as well as a Anderson plug for the caravan. Iveco have made this easy as the Battery posetive has a fuse block with several take off attachment lugs, and body builders plugs so that no splicing into vehicle wiring loom is required.

Today I drove back to Brendale for Ridgeline guys to install the HID kit, whilst they were doing that I fitted the tow bar. I noticed the rear diff Pinion seal was weeping and checked the raised diff breather to find it useless, another truck there had same problem. The breather cap has "opening pressure .28:1.7 PSI" stamped into it, whatever that means, and it is actually a one way valve :confused: . I replace the breather ends with some free flowing Pirhana breathers from ARB.

Took the Defender for a drive to get parts and realised why my left leg looks like Schwarzenegger's , you don't notice it when you drive them all the time but, man, that Defender clutch is heavy after driving the Iveco.

Bullbar gets fitted on Monday, I was prepared to do it DIY but apparantly its not that easy as a part has to be cut off the old bar to mount the lights into the new bar, not sort of thing I can do in a caravan park.

anyway , so far -so good, very happy with the truck and you would not believe how many people looks at it and stop to ask about it,



This post and a few others n here show to me that there is a very real market for a 4x4 that is much bigger than a 'normal' 4x4, I went very close to buying an NT model OKA but they went leg up.

This may be it I dunno but I'm still looking as I want a vehicle I can live in for extended periods of time while traveling / touring. I don't want to tow a camper or a caravan as I want to tow a boat. It is a few years off yet but always looking. My criteria is a real 4x4 off real off road, large enough to take fuel and water for extended periods away from civilization but not huge - I.E. an ex army unimog.

Oh and relatively speaking limited electronics or proven reliability - fact is what I want may not exist :-(

I think this vehicle will be close to the mark.


I forgot to mention, that this truck dosent feel big when your driving it, you can park in a standard carpark in Bunnings or Supercheap auto, and its Soooo easy to park, the mirrors and visibility are fantastic , Turning circle is bigger than a 110 but smaller than a 130



Will get some pics up tomorrow.

cheers Don

[Davo]

That's one thing I like about the look of it, the way they've got a lot of space but the actual size of the truck isn't too ridiculous. And I'll be interested to see how the onboard diagnostics work out . . . though, er, hoping that you won't need them, of course.

It's good to see your Landie experience is paying off with the diff breather and so on!

But no piccies . . . :(

[Ranga]

Hi mate - any chance of having a gander before you head off? I'm only about 20 minutes away from Brendale. BTW, why are you staying at a caravan park?! Myself, and I'm sure plenty of other AULRO locals, would have been (still are) happy to put you up!

[spudboy]

This post and a few others n here show to me that there is a very real market for a 4x4 that is much bigger than a 'normal' 4x4, I went very close to buying an NT model OKA but they went leg up.

This may be it I dunno but I'm still looking as I want a vehicle I can live in for extended periods of time while traveling / touring. I don't want to tow a camper or a caravan as I want to tow a boat. It is a few years off yet but always looking. My criteria is a real 4x4 off real off road, large enough to take fuel and water for extended periods away from civilization but not huge - I.E. an ex army unimog.

Oh and relatively speaking limited electronics or proven reliability - fact is what I want may not exist :-(


Hi Blitz,

We have had the same thoughts as you for the last couple of years. What to buy!

Originally thought I'd get an ex-army unimog, so I visited one at the local army base and I went for a short drive in one. Pretty good, but getting long in the tooth and fitting air-con was going to cost an arm and a leg. And as you point out - very big. Also, it was quite slow, but very easy to drive.

Took a look at the IVECO 4x4 daily and was impressed. They are a size between a 130 and a Mog, which is very appealing. I'll be following this thread to see what the long term reliability factor is, but everyone who sees one love it.

In the end we went for a 4x4 truck which will be overall a bit shorter than a Mog but just as wide and just as high. We have only just started building it, but if you are interested take a look here in the "MAN blog" section to see where we are up to:
http://daviddeere.net.au

I might put up a proper post here (even though it is not Land Rover related) when we get a bit further down the track with the build.

Cheers
David

[Sitec]

Spudboy, I hear you!! Used to drive this in Africa with Dragoman Overland.. They had Merc 1617's which were 4x2's and 2427's which were the V6 6x4's. With the cross axle diff locks locked it was surprising how far you would get! God only knows how much trouble the 6x6's would get into! Still miss the 'Big' Fourby... Guess that's why the 130 has gone and there's a 101 in the shed! :D

[goingbush]

some photos


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/629.jpg
Towbar, I'm going to have to extend the trailer plug down onto the tow bar,
I didn't realise the drawbar would be so far away.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/630.jpg
Inside, Waeco CDF11 fridge on floor btwn seats, the things sticking up on the sides of the seats are airline style fold down armrests. big monitor is my Hema maps and reversing camera (aimed at the tow hitch)
Red and green knobs are the two low ranges, One of my single Din cubbys has been taken up by a carling switch panel , single switch is HID's , I'll add more switches.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/631.jpg
Overhead has another Single Din enclosure, I'll put my UHF in there

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/632.jpg
there are som many cubby holes and glove boxes I forget where I put stuff

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/633.jpg
looking forward from behind the front right wheel, the road kill slicer & dicer is right up the front, (protects the roll bar & track rod)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/634.jpg
looking into the steering knuckle of full lock you can see the uni, very well protected unlike the open uni on a jeep, wires into the knuckle are ABS sensor, cable into the caliper is low pad warning sensor

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/635.jpg
rear diff on my truck actually points uphill, other trucks ive seen are horizontal, the rear shaft has DC joints on both ends. Nameplate on the diff says CARRARO , Hydraulic diff lock, 4.8/5/1 ratio (whatever that means) Made in Italy, I googled Carraro they make Tractors. (never heard of them)
The diff looks low to the ground, its got 300mm clearance, the road tyres are 9.5x17.5"

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/636.jpg
Isri Suspension seats, after the Recaros the squab feels short but I'll get used to them, they have adjustable lumbar via a air pump in the armrest handgrip

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/637.jpg
looking under the cab from infront of the right rear wheel, the cab had some good rubber / spring mounts to account for chassis flex.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/638.jpg
the shiny drum is the DPF

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/639.jpg
Bought a couple of Pelican boxes for the back

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/640.jpg


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/641.jpg

[4runnernomore]

Wow. The incab shots shows how high you really are.

When is the bar going on? Is there plenty of room underneath for a bigger /auxiliary fuel tank? How much difference did the HID's make? Will they negate the need for driving lights?

Noticed the end of the U bolts on the springs hang down a fair way. are you going to trim or look at a U Bolt flip to stop any bending or damage?

Can't wait to see this progress. After a couple more days of driving around any more OH MY GOD moments what Have I done and most importantly is SWMBO happy?

[spudboy]

Looks excellent!

Now you need to get some huge tyres on it :D

[goingbush]

Wow. The incab shots shows how high you really are.


Yes, you can spot the tennis balls on peoples roofs



When is the bar going on? Is there plenty of room underneath for a bigger /auxiliary fuel tank? How much difference did the HID's make? Will they negate the need for driving lights?

The bar is going on tomorrow, will post another pic when done. Also getting a front receiver for recovery , or pushing a boat , van etc .

Heaps of room for water / fuel tanks, the Ridgeline aux tanks are 120l and a couple of grand each ( on par with Aux tanks for other 4x4 but still a bit high for me), after a big outlay I have to do as much DIY as possible, so I'll make my own tank or buy a Moller marine fuel tank.

The HID's definetly negate the need for driving lights, the original lights are left in situ, and the HID's go into 4 unused portions of the existing headlights. The original low beam of the main headlights are empty as they are too far off the ground for ADR's hence the actual low beam is in the bumper, and there was also an empty driving light segment where the 2nd pair of HID's now live, so the spread of light is excellent. Dont think I'll even worry about fitting the LED bar from the Defender onto it.


here is a photo of the HID's fitted in the empty positions of the Headlight.
Thinking about converting the High beam to HID as well
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/613.jpg



Noticed the end of the U bolts on the springs hang down a fair way. are you going to trim or look at a U Bolt flip to stop any bending or damage?
U bolt flip would be the go, must look into that.



Can't wait to see this progress. After a couple more days of driving around any more OH MY GOD moments what Have I done and most importantly is SWMBO happy?

No the truck is growing on us fast, SWMBO is wrapped, (phew) she actually cant wait to have a drive





Looks excellent!

Now you need to get some huge tyres on it :D

Im running it back to Melb on the road rubber, fitting the 17x9 rims in Melb , am going with 35" MT's for now, perhaps 37's next time , I'm thinking Interco TRXUS next time, but they didn't have 5 in stock this week.

[billy bob]

That tray is a nice fit too.
Lines up purfectly with the body

[33chinacars]

Looks like a great unit. Lots of fun times ahead. Will be watching your build up with great interest. Would probably have one myself if I had the money that is.

Gary

[goingbush]

This truck is amazing,

I can not believe how much fuel it dosent use, I filled it up when we I went to get the Tray from Tamborine, and again Today 62L for 480Km = 12.92 L/100km includes all running around Brissie & some 100kmh freeway.

It only has a 90L tank and it cost me $101 to fill it up from 1/4 on the gauge.

(It has a trip computer but I haven't got that far into the instruction book on how to use it so worked out consumption on the motormouth calculator)

and to make me feel like it has Landrover heritage (via Iveco Massif ) true to form it has a leaking diff pinion seal

Bullbar looks great too, also fitted front reciever

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/09/523.jpg

[Tote]

Excellent pics, thank you, all contributes to softening up SWMBO.......:wasntme:

EDIT:

Who's just hit me in the back of the head......

Regards,
Tote

[chuck]

Going Bush

Thanks for the photos & write up.

I will look forward to seeing it with the bigger rims & tyres.

Why did you decide to go the 35's rather than the 37's given that they were going to be legal etc.

You have me thinking ;)

[goingbush]

Fitted the off road wheels today.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/1292.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/1293.jpg

I decided on Federal Couragia M/T 35x12.5R17 basically because they were the only 125Q Rated tyres I could find in stock in Australia, They are 10 Ply rated.

I mounted the tyres onto the rims myself , not so much as to safe a few $$ but just to make sure I could fit them myself incase I need to do it trackside. I'll be carrying a spare carcass. I used Truck Tyre balance beads inside the tyre instead of wheel weights, so no need to visit a tyre dealer.

What I was suprised at was that there is no taper on the wheel stud / nuts, the stud holes are a few mm larger than the studs, I dont understand how the wheels don't move once mounted.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/1291.jpg

check how thick the discs are, the track rod is massive, as thick as my wrist
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/1294.jpg

I had to cut the plastic splash guard on the dotted line to stop the tyre rubbing on full lock, Also note the length of the brake hose, allows for some massive wheel travel
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/1295.jpg

Anyone need any 9.5 R17.5 Michelin X road rubber ??

[BMKal]

Fitted the off road wheels today.

What I was suprised at was that there is no taper on the wheel stud / nuts, the stud holes are a few mm larger than the studs, I dont understand how the wheels don't move once mounted.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/1291.jpg



Wheels are centred / located on the hub and not by the studs. The studs / nuts are there only to hold the wheel securely onto the hub.

Not an uncommon practice.

Now if you had non-original rims and the hole in the centre of the rims was slightly larger than the originals - you would have a problem.

It's starting to look like a purposeful beast. ;)

[justinc]

Wheels are centred / located on the hub and not by the studs. The studs / nuts are there only to hold the wheel securely onto the hub.

Not an uncommon practice.

Now if you had non-original rims and the hole in the centre of the rims was slightly larger than the originals - you would have a problem.

It's starting to look like a purposeful beast. ;)

correctamundo, tdci ford transit are the same:)

jc

[R2D2]

This jigger was at my work in August. Can't remember what it was in for.Not a bad setup from memory.
Not sure why they told you it was such a long wait for one. We had one on the floor at that time.
GB, if you need anything for it, give me a call and i will look after you.
Cheers
Todd

QUOTE=James;1985518]A few years ago there was a left hand drive Bremach T-Rex touring Australia.
It had been had fitted with a very good insulated panel camper box.

There is some information about the build on Oliver Reinhard's website.
If I remember correctly he put quite a lot of effort into mounting the box to the chassis with some custom silent blocks.

It looked to be a very good setup.

https://sites.google.com/site/oliverreinhard/expeditionsmobil[/QUOTE]

[spudboy]

Looks a lot more "balanced" with the bigger wheels. Coming along nicely.

Range Rover rims are the same idea, with the weight being taken by the hub centre (as well as being accurately located in the centre of the hub), and the wheel nuts just there to stop it falling off.

[Dougal]

Looks a lot more "balanced" with the bigger wheels. Coming along nicely.

Range Rover rims are the same idea, with the weight being taken by the hub centre (as well as being accurately located in the centre of the hub), and the wheel nuts just there to stop it falling off.

Actually the wheel nuts are there to provide the clamp load which provides enough friction to supply drive, braking and carry all the load. The hub centre is there for initial alignment and for gross overloads or when the wheel nuts aren't done up enough.

[Davehoos]

the wheel nuts do come off.

you need to install the nuts correctly then check often.
the old UD trucks with dual on the left side often come loose-not the front single.

if they come loose the hub surface is damaged and you can never keep these tight.

some of the Isuzu trucks with alloy rims had warning label on the windscreen how to tension the nuts and the drivers carried tension wrench-then check every 50KM--but is that EVERY 50Km forever.

[goingbush]

the wheel nuts do come off.

you need to install the nuts correctly then check often.
the old UD trucks with dual on the left side often come loose-not the front single.

if they come loose the hub surface is damaged and you can never keep these tight.

some of the Isuzu trucks with alloy rims had warning label on the windscreen how to tension the nuts and the drivers carried tension wrench-then check every 50KM--but is that EVERY 50Km forever.

Thanks, the wheel nuts were not all that tight when I undid them.
I'll get some checkpoint wheel nut indicators just to be sure.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/1225.jpg

[goingbush]

doing a bit more reading of the owners manual, suprised to read about the clutch "reservoir cover must not be removed, assembly is maintenance free"

the master cylinder appears to be polycarbonate :eek:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/1185.jpg

[R2D2]

That is correct. DO NOT under any circumstances open that cap. It is a sealed cicuit and when bought comes with the master cylinder, slave and pipe that joins them. I have lost count of the kits I have sold because someone, usually amechanic servicing it opens the cap. If you look at the cap it tells you not to touch it.
Cheers
Todd

[*RR*]

We had Ivecos at a trucking company I worked at years ago.. Horrible things, plenty of grunt though. The company was in the process of phasing them out, so they were fairly abused.. I have heard that the latest variants are quite good though and they've remedied a lot of the quality issues they had...

This looks pretty tough! I'd much prefer one of these over a *****box toyota and for less money!

[33chinacars]

Something different for a few ideas

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152192449626521&set=a.184887181520.151806.112121166520&type=1&ref=nf

[disco2hse]

Something different for a few ideas

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152192449626521&set=a.184887181520.151806.112121166520&type=1&ref=nf

ick, especially the front doors reused in the twin cab arrangement.

[33chinacars]

ick, especially the front doors reused in the twin cab arrangement.

More looking at the ute tub

[disco2hse]

More looking at the ute tub

Ute tubs belong on utes. ick.

[goingbush]

some progress photos.

I decided to make to body out of 50mm coolroom panels. As far as I know this is untested in offroad conditions but from what I've seen of "outback" caravan construction it should not be a problem.

I was going to use a 3 point mount on the body but in the end settled on a 4 point spring mounts with poly isolation blocks.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/151.jpg


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/152.jpg

I parked the truck on some blocks just to see if the chassis had started to flex and suprised to find about 10mm gap in one body mount even tho the suspension was not even half crossed up. I hope I built the tray rigid enough !


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/153.jpg


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/154.jpg

[spudboy]

Hey GoingBush,

Just a question on the way you are mounting the body to the chassis, and the 4 blocks you are using. I think you might have to reconsider this perhaps.

Have you read the Iveco Daily 4x4 Body Builder manual? It comes in 2 PDF files, and I can email them to you if you haven't got them. It seems to indicate from my "speed read" that the frame you build should contact all the way along the chassis.

I only mention this because we are building on a MAN chassis is a similar way, and MAN specifies that the load has to be spread continuously along the chassis, with no "point" loads. MAN were very specific about this.

If you have read the IVECO Body Builders manual and there is a section that covers the way you are fixing your body to the chassis then just ignore my post!

Cheers
David

[spudboy]

Part 2 of BB manual, with the approved canopy fixing methods

[spudboy]

Part 1. I thought it would be too big to upload, but it seems to have done it, so see attached PDF.

Cheers
David

[Sitec]

Mmmmmm, interesting.... The bodies on the Overland Mercs in Africa were bolted solid originally..... and they suffered terribly.. One of the 6x4's actually cracked right thru above the axle pivot.. They then went for the sprung system you have pictured... That worked... Sort of... New bolts and springs every trip, and a continual banging of the body against the chassis which also caused cracking and shook the interior to pieces... Final cure.. Body sat on three huge blocks of rubber.... Alli does not do flex.

[Sitec]

With reference to that black double cab pictured earlier...... This is a double cab!!! The International CXT! Huge Cummins, huge Auto, 4x4 and prob a huge fuel bill, but (maybe the sad side of me) I WANT ONE!!!! :twisted:

[spudboy]

You can still have it attached by springs so it flexes, but 99% of the time the canopy is spreading its weight all the way along the chassis, because 99% of the time there is minimal flex going on.

I wanted a rubber strip between the chassis and the canopy, but MAN will not allow. It has to be metal to metal to comply.

Iveco want the end of the canopy beams to be tapered, so there is a bit of 'spring' at the end, so as not to cause a point load on the chassis (same as MAN).

[goingbush]

Have read the Iveco 4x4 Body Builders manual (and what a great document it is) I have used the existing front mounts with spring washer packs, as in 3.13,.

The front mounts carry the sheer loads due to braking / cornering

(I have seen a camper body "professionally" mounted on another 4x4 Iveco that has no provision at all for sheer loads during braking, let alone off roading.

I used polypropylene plates (cutting boards) sandwiched between chassis and subframe to eliminate any stress points (the purpose of the tapered subframe)

check out this National Code of Practice (Truck Body mounting)

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/pdf/vsb_06_j.pdf

In light of above document I will add some fishplates at the rear, everything else complies .

[spudboy]

OK - that's good. Sounds like you have it all under control. Just thought I'd mention it due to the stern warnings that MAN passed on to me about following their Body Builders guide.

Cheers
David

[iClick]

Looks like Earthcruiser (http://www.earthcruiser.com.au/) have created a 4 x 4 camper based on the Iveco Daily. (http://www.examiner.com/article/earthcruiser-to-debut-three-iveco-based-overlanding-vehicles-down-under)

http://expeditionportal.com/christophe/ec/ec_2.jpg

The walk through cab looks interesting.
http://expeditionportal.com/christophe/ec/ec_3.jpg

This appears to be a prototype and if I win the lottery, I'll be back to put down a deposit!

[goingbush]

Looks like the chassis has been stretched. Seems to be a few more Daily 4x4's appearing now, Some people doing DIY builds and many waiting for theris to be delivered, I was lucky as mine was from a sale that fell thru so I shortcutted the delivery wait time. This is all good as spares and resources will start to grow in Australia.

[loanrangie]

Thats a good sized vehicle, not a land barge like spudboys truck :p.

When i went overland Kenya to SA we went in an old Boots Leyland Daf delivery vehicle, was a pantech with plywood panels that had windows cut out and a partial soft top roof.
It was pretty cool driving thru Tsavo National Park sitting on the roof with Midnight Oil pumping out of the stereo :D.

[goingbush]

I crossed mine up proper today, so much so that the drivers door partially jammed, same as it does when you cross up a Landcruiser.

you can see that the chassis flex has caused the rear body & cab to misalign.
still had room to move on the left rear body mount spring. The tight fitting rear body door still opened and closed nicely with no jamming, have to be happy about that. The truck rides so much smoother now with some weight over the back end.


check out the gap between the bottom of the drivers side headlight and the rubber seal on top of bumper bar, when the truck is sitting flat there is no gap at all visible.
The chassis certainly flexes a LOT

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/10/42.jpg


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/01/1360.jpg

[Simple_One]

Great thread with some excellent information. Would love to build something based on one of these, but the funds are not gonna be there for me for oh-so-many years yet :(

Hope you enjoy your truck though! :)

[blitz]

anymore updates? what you are building really appeals to me both as a work rig and a tourer

[goingbush]

Truck is finished save a few tweaks, we are doing a shakedown trip to Mungo NP and Darling run next few weeks , The big box on the back has a leak sprung during this horrible torrential rain we have been copping in Melb, After a week or two of hot sunny weather I'll pump the sealent into all the gaps if the red dust dosent fill them first.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/11/231.jpg


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/11/232.jpg

bit more detailed write up and pics on my blog page at
Going Bush, about Iveco 4x4 (http://www.goingbush.com/iveco.html)

Still wrapped with the truck, you would not believe how many people come up and ask about it / take photos etc.

[weeds]

Spotted a single cab on the hi-with a motor home style back on it. It looked the goods.

[2stroke]

That looks fantastic! First time I've said that about a new vehicle in ages.

[Ranga]

Looking good. It looks it could handle even bigger wheels than the 37"!

[goingbush]

The best thing about Melbourne is watching it dissapear in the rear view mirror (thanks Brad) , that happened yesterday. With some apprehension / excitement we hit the first dirt road all laden up today and finally knew the decision to buy the truck and all the effort was worthwhile.

The truck is brilliant on the dirt, just a 22k stretch of sandy corrugated back road, the Iveco just soaks them corrugations up, no noise or juddering, hardly even a rattle , bloody fantastic.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/11/60.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/01/1361.jpg

[pickstock]

I work in the caravan and RV industry building bits, repairs etc to all sorts and this is the first time ive seen them but wow, very nice indeed.

[TonyC]

Hay Don,

Some one shrunk your van:p

Are you going to take the Landy wheels off the caravan and fit ones to match the Iveco?

Tony

[Discomark]

Another camper setup for the Iveco Daily, South African but maybe they would just sell the camper section and you can fit to a cab chassis locally.
Discoverer Xtreme Iveco 4x4 (http://www.motorhome-world.com/Xtreme%20page/Xtreme.htm)

[goingbush]

Another camper setup for the Iveco Daily, South African but maybe they would just sell the camper section and you can fit to a cab chassis locally.
Discoverer Xtreme Iveco 4x4 (http://www.motorhome-world.com/Xtreme%20page/Xtreme.htm)

great find, did you see their youtube clip
Discoverer Xtreme - YouTube

I wondered why they would waste that space on an inbuilt toilet but I suppose you have a better chance of being eaten in Africa if you squat down behind a bush.

Also noted they are fitting Euro3 single turbo (350 nm 107kw ) engines in South Africa to be able to use lower quality diesel fuel, we have Euro 5 here (400nm 130kw twin turbo)

[goingbush]

Hay Don,

Some one shrunk your van:p

Are you going to take the Landy wheels off the caravan and fit ones to match the Iveco?

Tony

yes the van looks too small now, but al least I don't have to allow extra width through gaps for it .

I did measure it up, I could fit the big wheels but I would need to do some bodywork and add some flares, probably not the smartest idea just now as its still under warranty, but it would look a lot better! will keep it in mind for the future. :twisted:

[ugu80]

:thumbsup:Good for you. I sincerely hope your trip is everything you expect and more.

[goingbush]

How smooth is this


Iveco Daily 4x4 on corrugations (dash cam) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD2COSivP7o&feature=youtu.be)

you can't appreciate the corrugations in the video as we are sitting about a meter or so higher than the Defender, weird how it all looks slightly different from a new perspective

The Iveco is so smooth and quiet . Granted we have 4 tiers of suspension, first the tyres (which are primary on corrugations) , 2nd the Parabolic suspension, 3rd the flexy Rubber isolation mounts between chassis & cab & then we have suspension seats (for the humungous bumps). you can see the bullbar move in relation to the cab (bullbar solid mount on chassis), the spot tracker reflection in window is velcroed to the dashboard.

Any speed above 50kmh is smooth. Centerdiff lock wont engage at speed, you have to slow right down .... then you can feel the bumps , its blocked in software don't like that idea much - perhaps its to stop nuff nuffs engaging it on sealed roads ??

I now understand when we pulled over on the Tanami in the 80 Series for a cup of tea as a respite from the bumps we were agog as a MAN 4x4 bus went past like it was on a smooth road.

[TonyC]

Hi Don,
Any idea what your axle weights are?
What tyre pressures are you running?

Don't forget that caravan bouncing along behind on it's little Land Rover tyres.:p

Tony

[goingbush]

Hi Don,
Any idea what your axle weights are?
What tyre pressures are you running?

Don't forget that caravan bouncing along behind on it's little Land Rover tyres.:p

Tony

Hi Tony,

only running 36psi front & rear , TPMS shows they increase about 4 -5 psi with about 2-3 degrees over ambient . haven't lowered them for dirt yet , only done 6500k so far. tyres appear to be wearing even across the tread (the dimples dissapeared very evenly)

yep, the caravan is a worry, too easy to forget about it as there is no sensation of towing.

I'll run it over a weighbridge at the next opportunity.

cheers Don

[Discomark]

More details on the Earthcruiser Iveco Daily.
Earthcruiser Iveco Models (http://www.outbacktravelaustralia.com.au/buyers-guide-4x4-motorhome/earthcruiser-iveco)

Now wheres that unchecked lotto ticket......

[ugu80]

If I got I think I would insist the tyres be the same on each side (look at the far tyre in the shade. To the camera are Hankook Dynapro MT but if you notice that front tyre poking out the other side, it is, I think, a Michelin.

[goingbush]

I would have never noticed that, great pickup.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/04/1071.jpg


Still chuffed with mine, best $85,000 I ever spent.

done just on 20k in mine, absolutely trouble free, (apart from the leaky diff seal on delivery) going in for 1st service on Tuesday , ask me if I'm still happy once I know how much a scheduled service costs.

(Iveco prefer 40k btwn services but option 20k if you use them off road.)

[Noisy Mango]

Hi Don,

Well I'm asking - are you still happy post service?

Was wondering if you could do me a favour? Next time you are under the back of your truck with a tape measure - would you mind measuring the spacer on the lower rear shock mount? Ours came loose and lost both spacers. According to the dealer they are unavailable worldwide and they cannot supply any specs.

On the upside, we now know the Iveco performs really well with no shocks after driving through the Brindabella Ranges without them!

Thanks,
Wayne.

[goingbush]

Hi Don,

Well I'm asking - are you still happy post service?

Was wondering if you could do me a favour? Next time you are under the back of your truck with a tape measure - would you mind measuring the spacer on the lower rear shock mount? Ours came loose and lost both spacers. According to the dealer they are unavailable worldwide and they cannot supply any specs.

On the upside, we now know the Iveco performs really well with no shocks after driving through the Brindabella Ranges without them!

Thanks,
Wayne.


Hey Wayne,

Welcome to the club :)

Not sure what you mean , I can't see any spacer on the lower rear shock mounts. The top mounts have spacers which are identical to the front top mount spacers, Also left and rear lower mounts are identical , so you should be able to measure the lower left rear mount. A photo would help as I might be looking at the wrong part ??

Thanks for the heads up anyway, I checked mine, all nice and tight.

The service wasn't too bad, $850 , (cheaper than a LR service , and longer intervals) , no faults, have to be happy with that . Still stoked with the truck !!

[Noisy Mango]

Hey Wayne,

Welcome to the club :)

Not sure what you mean , I can't see any spacer on the lower rear shock mounts. The top mounts have spacers which are identical to the front top mount spacers, Also left and rear lower mounts are identical , so you should be able to measure the lower left rear mount. A photo would help as I might be looking at the wrong part ??

Thanks for the heads up anyway, I checked mine, all nice and tight.

The service wasn't too bad, $850 , (cheaper than a LR service , and longer intervals) , no faults, have to be happy with that . Still stoked with the truck !!

Hi Don,

The spacer is no.20 in the attached picture.

The upside of losing the spacer is we now know the truck doesn't ride much different without shocks after driving without for a day!

The service price seems reasonable & no faults is always good! Yes, we are really pleased with ours too. Took it on a trip through some of the steepest tracks in the Brindabella Ranges and it performed faultlessly. We didn't even use the lowest gears we had! I don't know what someone coming the other way would have thought when they saw the Iveco climbing over a conservation mound towards them!! :o

Let me know what you find,

Thanks,
Wayne.

[goingbush]

G'day Wayne

Did you try an Iveco service centre, I'm sure if the bolt has fallen out its going to be fixed under warranty, I doubt they would let you continue without a shocker, They may argue that it could contribute to further damage and at the least will be unroadworthy. Give Iveco assistance a call , number on the sticker in the top drivers corner of windscreen, they are pretty good at helping.

If you are far from an Iveco centre they might suggest to go to any truck dealers or 4WD suspension place they should have some rubbers or even poly bushes that should fit as an interim.

If that fails then looking at that spacer , its the same as the one used on the other side as well as the front shockers, so you should be able to use one of those as a sample to get a new one made, or buy off shelf from engineers supply , tractor supply place etc etc.

Without taking my shocker off I can't get the diameters , but the length of the spacer is 40mm ,

whatever it should be very easy to get it serviceable and legal

[Noisy Mango]

G'day Wayne

Did you try an Iveco service centre, I'm sure if the bolt has fallen out its going to be fixed under warranty, I doubt they would let you continue without a shocker, They may argue that it could contribute to further damage and at the least will be unroadworthy. Give Iveco assistance a call , number on the sticker in the top drivers corner of windscreen, they are pretty good at helping.

If you are far from an Iveco centre they might suggest to go to any truck dealers or 4WD suspension place they should have some rubbers or even poly bushes that should fit as an interim.

If that fails then looking at that spacer , its the same as the one used on the other side as well as the front shockers, so you should be able to use one of those as a sample to get a new one made, or buy off shelf from engineers supply , tractor supply place etc etc.

Without taking my shocker off I can't get the diameters , but the length of the spacer is 40mm ,

whatever it should be very easy to get it serviceable and legal

Hi Don,

Thanks, I will source a spacer to fit. Iveco do not have any stock of that part worldwide. I have the shock refitted with washers in place of the spacer at the moment, but would prefer the correct part.

Regards,
Wayne [smilebigeye]

[goingbush]

Heres a slightly use one for sale, all kitted out .
First used one I've seen, will save the 5 month wait time for a new one,

2013 Iveco Daily 4x4 @ ExplorOz Classifieds (http://www.exploroz.com/Classifieds/Vehicles.aspx?id=22188)

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I saw one of these on the M5 on the way home from Sydney last night. It was so high I thought it might have had portals. Unfortunately it dosen't but it looks OK in my opinion.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/05/835.jpg

3 litre 4 cylinder, 400NM of torque and 24 forward and 4 reverse gears
700mmFording depth
3 diff locks
Up to 4 PTOs
Dual Cab Chassis 86K according to carsales.com
255/100/16 tyres (36")

Daily 4*x* 4 (http://www.iveco.com.au/index.php/off-road/daily-4x4)

Regards,
Tote


Just saw two identical white ones, with camper back
AND
matching bushtrackers.;)

very impressive!

[goingbush]

Also bumped into another one on the Nullabor a few days ago

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/526.jpg

Then we drove the Balladonia to Zanthus road ( towing the caravan)

6 hours to do 150km , very glad the truck was no wider as trees were slapping both mirrors at times , and drove into a boggy soak , All the prior puddles on the track had a firm base, this one took my by surprise,
the choice of tyres was vindicated as I was able to reverse out (just) after lowering pressures and applying difflocks . I got thru subsequent soaks with lots of momentum.

Sorry about stuffing the track up for the next guy, but at least he will see my marks and not venture in to the soak. By rights I think the track should have had a closure on it, as its on the map as a 2WD road but I don't think it had been used or checked for some time.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/527.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/528.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/529.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/530.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/531.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/532.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/533.jpg

[goingbush]

Im in trouble now.

Attached camera to the new mop handle .. oops
obviously need more ramp over height

Iveco Daily 4x4 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/QCQPEgUMCnI)

must try again earlier in the day, it would have been a good view without the sun glare

[Judo]

Camera still working? More importantly was it yours or SWMBOs? ;)

[jerryd]

I frequently go past the "Travel Trucks" place in Brendale, I must say they certainly look impressive bits of kit :)

I particularly like the "scrubmaster" they've got parked outside at the moment.

Remote Travel 4x4s & Accessories - TravelTrucks (http://traveltrucks.com.au/)

[boa]

Also bumped into another one on the Nullabor a few days ago

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/526.jpg

Then we drove the Balladonia to Zanthus road ( towing the caravan)

6 hours to do 150km , very glad the truck was no wider as trees were slapping both mirrors at times , and drove into a boggy soak , All the prior puddles on the track had a firm base, this one took my by surprise,
the choice of tyres was vindicated as I was able to reverse out (just) after lowering pressures and applying difflocks . I got thru subsequent soaks with lots of momentum.

Sorry about stuffing the track up for the next guy, but at least he will see my marks and not venture in to the soak. By rights I think the track should have had a closure on it, as its on the map as a 2WD road but I don't think it had been used or checked for some time.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/527.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/528.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/529.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/530.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/531.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/532.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/06/533.jpg

That to me is one of the best drives I have done. First time in 1995 not so much 4wd as such just a nice area. Went with the owner of Fraser range station. Then for work with a helicopter survey. 2 helicopters and 24 staff to manage. Unfortunately the owner died in an ultralight accident when I was there he always said the future was in tourism. We stayed at Fraser range and Zanthus stayed in the workers accommodation.

[goingbush]

Theres a brand new optioned up Single Cab for sale on Gumtree, $75,000 thats a
$20,000 dollar saving. Anyone considering one, worth jumping on this bargain.

Iveco Daily 4x4 cab/chassis Brand New | Caravan | Gumtree Australia Maroochydore Area - Buderim | 1050646344 (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/buderim/caravan/iveco-daily-4x4-cab-chassis-brand-new/1050646344)

[DiscoMick]

Hey boa I notice you have a Trakmaster van in your pics. Which one is it and how is it going? Is that a Sturt? They look like an impressive range on their website, so I wondered how it was handling the outback. How much does it weigh and how do you find it to tow? Sorry for so many questions.
I went to a 4WD and caravan show on Saturday in Lismore and had a fun time comparing the off road versions of various vans. Some seem pricey because they're loaded with flashy extras but I'm more interested in solid constuction and practical, durable features and interiors. Trakmaster has a good reputation so I wondered how yours was doing in real life. If you bought another one, what would you change? Any comments appreciated.

Sent from my D1 using overweight hamsters.

[goingbush]

Mick, Its me with the Trakmaster, yes its a Sturt

The Chassis , suspension, furniture and Electrical fit out are superb,
The industry sourced parts like standard caravan windows & window winders, from suppliers like Dometic and Camec are just the same as they are on any other caravan. (crap) The windows fitted to my van leak dust and the winders are playing up after 2 years. Ive fitted a posetive air pressure system to mine fro stop dust ingress, a proper off road van should not leak dust - they could do a lott better in this respect.

If I was to buy another Van I'd still go Trakmaster as Ive given it a thorough punishment and its held together surprisingly well. I'd specify much better windows if they exist, and mount the front stabiliser legs up on the sides of the chassis insead of under it, like on the Gibson. Infact I'd probably just buy a Gibson instead of a Sturt, I could do without the Awning anyway.

They also sent me build progress photos, including all images of framing and electrical wiring routing before the cladding went on, which is handy for if I need to add to wiring or drill holes etc.

[Discomark]

The Earthcruiser single cab is on my wish list :)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=251597091708972&set=a.251597071708974.1073741830.226893307512684&type=1&theater

[goingbush]

I like this
Iveco Daily 6x6 Concept

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/10/1083.jpg

[goingbush]

And I thought my truck was high

http://www.doski.ru/i/30/09/300957.jpg


check the portals - look to be straight off a tractor !!
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/10/411.jpg

Ïðîäàì ñíåãîáîëîòîõîä ïëàâàþùèé â ðàçäåëå Òðàíñïîðò â Ðîññèè Ñïåöòåõíèêà Ðàçíîå ïî òåìå (http://www.doski.ru/prodam-snegobolotohod-plavauschiy-msg374332.htm)

[KarlB]

That monster is a "tricked up" Russian GAZelle (made by GAZ). The portals are impressive.

Cheers
KarlB
:)

[gazby]

We bought an ex Britz Rental 40:10 Iveco 4x4 van all fitted out for camping from Melbourne, really cheap after they sold up all of their 2000 olympic games rental fleet when they came out of lease, I think it was the end of 2001.
It was a great vehicle, set up really good in the back of a high roof van with real off road capability, but fuel consumption, a weak chain drive transfer case and highway speed were the real setbacks. Sold it on to a yank tourist in '05.
I recently saw one of these new Iveco machines doing it's thing up on the Telegraph track north to the tip of Cape York only last month, they really look the business and it just romped through the deep water crossings, through erosion wash outs etc.
But they probably cost a lot more than my "only slightly less capable D1" so I guess I will stay with the good old land Rover. Gaz:cool:

[goingbush]

Agreed there are cheaper ways to go off roading, but still the best money I ever spent.

Theres a forum up about the new Iveco 4x4, just a few days old and open to anyone interested
Login - Iveco Daily 4x4 (http://www.ivecodaily4x4.com)

[spudboy]

I just went over and took a look at the Iveco forum, and you have about 50% of all the posts on the site :D

[Chucaro]

That German IVECO 4x4 Doka Custom-Campers (http://www.custom-campers.de/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=52&Itemid) are very impressive :cool:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/12/787.jpg


The other German company Tom’s Fahrzeugtechnik (http://toms-fahrzeugtechnik.de/expeditionsfarzeuge/outback-traveller/outback-traveller/index.html) have a nice model as well.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[spudboy]

That top one you posted had a roll over accident:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/10/224.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/10/225.jpg

[Discomark]

Came across another Aussie made camper on an Iveco chassis.
https://www.facebook.com/Roswal.Trailers/photos/a.692832060752968.1073741834.275157545853757/692832740752900/?type=3&permPage=1

[bob10]

That German IVECO 4x4 Doka Custom-Campers (http://www.custom-campers.de/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=52&Itemid) are very impressive :cool:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/12/787.jpg


The other German company Tom’s Fahrzeugtechnik (http://toms-fahrzeugtechnik.de/expeditionsfarzeuge/outback-traveller/outback-traveller/index.html) have a nice model as well.

http://toms-fahrzeugtechnik.de/images/big606645a1d909e05033.jpg
Terrific looking vehicles, plenty of ground clearance. Not sure if that exposed drive shaft would be an issue, but I wouldn't mind one, Bob

[goingbush]

More than 12 months and 45,000 km Im still happy.

Its not all been a bed of roses tho, The truck is not at all unlike a Defender in many ways.

1 Awesome off road
2 oil leaks
3 handbuilt and quirky
4 crappy dealer network & poor product knowledge
5 bloody economical
6 easy to work on

A major downside is that you can not buy a cheap diagnostic tool like a $500 Nanocom, The only tool that works is over $5000

And the one that Im most ****ed off about is the complete lack of engine braking, Its marginal downhill on its own but with a caravan or trailer its downright dangerous , Ivecos attitude is like an Ostrich , this is the only vehicle of its size that does not come standard with an exhaust brake, Iveco won't even option one. Iveco say it can't be done and will damage the EGR.

since we all know EGR is evil here is my solution
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/12/637.jpg

to get this to work I had to have the EGR and DPF tuned out in ECU, including an EGR blanking plate and DPF gutted, because obviously if you throttle the exhaust the increased pressure will find a path into the inlet manifold and make a free running circuit, (and as Iveco said will damage the EGR and TVA valves) not to mention the DPF pressure differential sensor.

Now with my mods the truck actually has some natural engine retardation, and when exhaust brake is applied the truck will go down a hill in the same gear as used to go up the hill. Before I was 1 or 2 gears lower and riding the brakes to stop over-revving. Tested it over the Snowy Mountains highway and down into Batemans Bay . ;)

Before this it was good for outback / flat land stuff only.

[Ranga]

Was that you travelling down the Bruce yesterday near Caboolture?

[4runnernomore]

How did you get the ECU fixed to suit the change?

[goingbush]

Was that you travelling down the Bruce yesterday near Caboolture?

no, Im in Sydney at the moment (unfortunately) but there are quite a few getting about now,

[Ranga]

no, Im in Sydney at the moment (unfortunately) but there are quite a few getting about now,
Coincidentally, it was also towing a Bushtracker caravan!

[goingbush]

How did you get the ECU fixed to suit the change?

Qauntum tuning have a DPF / EGR solution ,(not at all approved by Iveco) for off road use only of course :twisted: they read direct from the CPU chip, send the file to UK HQ where it gets modded , then uploaded back into the chip. Makes a noticeble difference to grunt / drivability too .

[TerryO]

Bump

[goingbush]

The Australia Compliance Plate certification number for the iveco Daily 55s17W on the RVCS database has it registered here as EURO 4 , so I can assume we are free to remove DPF , as there is no DPF on the Euro 4 Daily :)