D2a Bullbar options - ARB, TJM, ECB and ...? [Archive]

twr7cx

22nd March 2013, 03:50 PM

Yorkie

22nd March 2013, 04:11 PM

opposite lock x-rok tube bar i would think.

elshano

22nd March 2013, 04:55 PM

https://www.4x4andmore.com.au/shop/landrover-discovery-series-2-xrox-bar-2002-2004/

Have mine ready to pick up!

walker

22nd March 2013, 05:45 PM

Yep xrox. Half the price and looks very cool

schuy1

22nd March 2013, 05:53 PM

Yep xrox. Half the price and looks very cool
Sadly whilst very cool looking they are really a nono for onroad use. Being non ADR and airbag compliant. Fit 1 and I wish you the best with any insurance in an accident.
For proper frontal protection the ARB D2 bar stands the test of bringing you home after skippy the best, Granted it does not look real neat but often they are the ones that work best at what they do :D
Cheers Scott

winaje

22nd March 2013, 05:59 PM

Sadly whilst very cool looking they are really a nono for onroad use. Being non ADR and airbag compliant. Fit 1 and I wish you the best with any insurance in an accident.
For proper frontal protection the ARB D2 bar stands the test of bringing you home after skippy the best, Granted it does not look real neat but often they are the ones that work best at what they do :D
Cheers Scott

I'm confused, as you specifically state that they are NOT airbag compliant, whereas the site referenced specifically states that they ARE airbag compliant...

joe.woods

22nd March 2013, 06:11 PM

I have an XROX bar and they told me it was complaint, it has built in crush folds, where are we getting the info that it is not complaint?...Joe

schuy1

22nd March 2013, 06:34 PM

I have an XROX bar and they told me it was complaint, it has built in crush folds, where are we getting the info that it is not complaint?...Joe
Bugger :( It appears since I last looked they have now become compliant! :o The last time I was reading about them they were for offroad use only ;) Sorry for that but as they say , a day is a long time in politics :D
Still wont count on it bringing me home form Boulia on a night run though:cool:
Cheers Scott

Yorkie

22nd March 2013, 06:48 PM

there are some other bars out of the uk that are non compliant so sold as offroad use only, think seen one on ebay recently so you may be confusing the xrox with these. ;)

Jason789

22nd March 2013, 07:31 PM

The ARB Deluxe bar looks better. I suppose its' in the eye of the beholder though. I've got one and no insect has managed to bend it yet :p

The ARB is also, according to rumour, stronger than the TJM

Cheers,

Jason

walker

22nd March 2013, 07:35 PM

I have an ARB winch bar sitting in my shed if you are interested. I just pulled it off the other week to fit an xrox bar.

Make me an offer before I put it on eBay.

Disco Muppet

22nd March 2013, 07:36 PM

The ARB is also, according to rumour, stronger than the TJM

Yup.
Despite some people claiming this to be hear-say I'm prepared to vouch for it.
Knocked down a good sized roo at 100kmh, not a mark on the bar. Add to that that crap I put mine through pushing trees off tracks, etc and it's not got a mark on it.
Admittedly, it's a giant bloody plow when you start doing anything above basic offroading, as I found out the other day.
I've seen a TJM bar that hit a similar sized roo to mine and it wasn't pretty.
Personally I think the TJM bar looks better, but I know which one I'd rather have if animal strike was an issue.
If I didn't have to contend with suicide skippy I'd have an Xrox.

joe.woods

22nd March 2013, 07:54 PM

I believe the XROX bar is much better that the TJM and ARB bars, I have had both of these bars previously on different 4x4's - the XROX bar seems stronger (the sheer of the bolts over the area of contact will be as good or better than the welds) and has much better clearances; mine has a 12000lb Warn in it; used it in anger a couple of times :o with no issues; would not change it for any other bar:cool:. I have not bumped into any wildlife yet!! I hope it never happens, time will tell...Joe:D

FenianEel

23rd March 2013, 08:49 AM

I'm biased, but I've had TJM & ARB.
Xrox is great for rock crawlers, or buggies, but useless for impacts & IMHO but ugly.
Go the ARB Bar, still made in Australia, looks nicer, heaps stronger, better winch set up too, and colour coding option.

ARB deluxe bar (D2a has foglights)
https://m.ak.fbcdn.net/sphotos-d.ak/hphotos-ak-prn1/36509_10200524178333991_697221623_n.jpg

TJM bar (made in China)

https://m.ak.fbcdn.net/sphotos-g.ak/hphotos-ak-prn1/155323_410268002377573_249318312_n.jpg

ozscott

23rd March 2013, 10:18 AM

I am biased the other way:D TJM for me out of the two - looked better in my eyes and closer to the vehicle and better approach angle.

Cheers

PS. My brother fits bullbars in his shop and reckons there is nothing between them in terms of strength...what is significantly stronger is the TJM Black Stallion Bar...its a brute.

PPS FenianEels pic above shows the TJM where its had its bumperets removed - looks much better with them on and gives more low impact protection.

PPPS - when I got my TJM Bar for my D2 9 years ago they were still made in Australia...so if you are comparing strength and build quality made sure its apples with apples - so if you are buying a second hand TJM winch bar like mine, I dont know how you can tell, but try to get the Ozzie one.

twr7cx

23rd March 2013, 11:59 AM

I don't think the bar strength is that relevant, they're all probably strong enough.

All of them that are air bag compliant have crush cans behind them, and it's the cans that will bend before the bar - the bar then pushes back and makes contact with the body of the vehicle. At least this is what I have found with my ARB Sahara bar, the bar can take the knock, but the crush cans can't (they start to crush (compress in))...

Anyone know if Xrox or TJM will sell replacement crush cans? ARB don't seem to (the first dealer told me this outright, the second said they can get them but take 4 to 5 weeks as they're made to order, 6 weeks later and they still have NFI).

Disco Muppet

23rd March 2013, 12:18 PM

Go the ARB Bar, still made in Australia

Sure about that? When I was looking for an ARB bar I was informed they were no longer manufactured in Australia, and that I'd have to wait for one out of the USA.

better approach angle.

Pretty sure (if we're being purely technical) it doesn't reduce the approach angle. There's a post in the middle of the "Show us your D2" section that explains it with some degree of technical knowledge but I digress :D

They might not be stronger, but better designed perhaps.
Most TJM bars I've seen after animal strike has some degree of damage from it, ranging from "Bit of a ding" to "Got a new bar yet?"
Either way it's better than needing a new radiator or something like that.

I can ask my local TJM people (who also sell xrox) if you like R.E crush can replacements

ozscott

23rd March 2013, 12:35 PM

lewy

23rd March 2013, 12:38 PM

Don't forget to consider the weight,I have an xrox with no winch and didn't have to alter the front springs.Also the x'rox may not have as good of coverage of the wheel area as others.

Disco Muppet

23rd March 2013, 02:05 PM

Mate what are RE's?

Cheers

PS. Sure about it - at the time my brother was buying and selling both brands. He still does both but often fits Ironman now which is made in China etc, but look great and cheaper.

Re as in the subject line of emails, supposedly latin for "about" but don't hold me to that, I hated latin :D
That was towards the OP regarding the availability of crush can replacements :)
That's odd.
ARB definitely told me my bar would have to come from America. Odd.

walker

23rd March 2013, 09:33 PM

Don't forget to consider the weight,I have an xrox with no winch and didn't have to alter the front springs.Also the x'rox may not have as good of coverage of the wheel area as others.

I agree. I changed from ARB to Xrox purely for the weight advantage. Front suspension went up 20mm just by changing bars.

I won't buy anything from ARB anymore. There lack of customer service on technical questions is a joke as is the price they now charge for products in Australia.

schuy1

23rd March 2013, 09:45 PM

Re as in the subject line of emails, supposedly latin for "about" but don't hold me to that, I hated latin :D
That was towards the OP regarding the availability of crush can replacements :)
That's odd.
ARB definitely told me my bar would have to come from America. Odd.

Note how by omitting to make the 'e' lower case it mucked up the understanding of the sentence! :eek: And the school boys lament; Latin Latin! First it killed the Romans, and now its Killing ME!! :D

Cheers Scott

winaje

24th March 2013, 11:06 AM

I agree. I changed from ARB to Xrox purely for the weight advantage. Front suspension went up 20mm just by changing bars.

I won't buy anything from ARB anymore. There lack of customer service on technical questions is a joke as is the price they now charge for products in Australia.

Geez, and NOW you mention this?!? LOL

Roberto

24th March 2013, 06:53 PM

I have an ARB winch bar sitting in my shed if you are interested. I just pulled it off the other week to fit an xrox bar.

Make me an offer before I put it on eBay.

Walker

I am interested. I live in Echuca VIC. Are you within cooee?

Bob

elshano

24th March 2013, 07:08 PM

Picked my xrox up yesterday from 4x4andmore, the WA dealer for Outback Accessories that make the xrox.
Extremely well packaged, lots of bubble wrap, each part wrapped separately. The bag of nuts and bolts is quite daunting, but the instructions are D2 specific and seem pretty straightforward.
If you were buying one of these interstate I would be pretty sure it'd arrive in top nick. Weight would be the main factor in freighting costs I would imagine.

walker

24th March 2013, 07:30 PM

No need to freight. You can buy them in any state from opposite Lock. Same price you guys get them over there.

winaje

24th March 2013, 08:45 PM

Walker

I am interested. I live in Echuca VIC. Are you within cooee?

Bob

Adams bar is sold (and fitted to my D2), sorry mate

Ports

26th March 2013, 05:37 PM

Note how by omitting to make the 'e' lower case it mucked up the understanding of the sentence! :eek: And the school boys lament; Latin Latin! First it killed the Romans, and now its Killing ME!! :D

Cheers Scott

Wiki states
"re [in] the matter of: More literally, "by the thing". From the ablative of res ("thing" or "circumstance"). It is a common misconception that the "Re:" in correspondence is an abbreviation for regarding or reply; this is not the case for traditional letters. However, when used in an e-mail subject, there is evidence that it functions as an abbreviation of regarding rather than the Latin word for thing. The use of Latin re, in the sense of "about, concerning", is English usage."

Reality is that aside from legal matters re is used as an abbreviation for regarding. :angel:

onebob

26th March 2013, 07:54 PM

My choice was the TJM bar, ADR compliant and will accept a winch and I'd trust it unreservedly in a contest with a skippy ........

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/03/183.jpg

ozscott

26th March 2013, 09:24 PM

Yes mine is the winch one and the winch tray bolts staight to the chassis rails making it as strong as it gets for winching.

Cheers

cjc_td5

26th March 2013, 09:57 PM

Some of you are talking about D2 bars, not D2a bars as per the OP.
When buying a bar for my D2a back in 2003, I looked at ARB and TJM. I ultimately decided on a TJM bar due to the lower horizontal bar on the ARB bar obscuring the high beam light on a D2a.

Now, with the benefit of hindsight, I may have chosen the ARB bar due to:
- I have seen a few ARB bars with the horizontal bar removed to give the lights full view.
- The ARB bar has towing/recovery points built in.
- I understand you can use can use a highlift jack on a ARB bar (with an adapter into the towing ring). The TJM bar for a D2a has the T holes removed (onebob's pic has them as per D2 spec) so that the fog lights can be refitted. This means that there is nowhere on the bar to use a highlift jack.

Cheers,

ozscott

26th March 2013, 10:00 PM

Light recovery only off any bar with crush cans...otherwise rated big slabs of steel attached at 3 points to each rail.

Cheers

schuy1

26th March 2013, 11:03 PM

Wiki states
"re [in] the matter of: More literally, "by the thing". From the ablative of res ("thing" or "circumstance"). It is a common misconception that the "Re:" in correspondence is an abbreviation for regarding or reply; this is not the case for traditional letters. However, when used in an e-mail subject, there is evidence that it functions as an abbreviation of regarding rather than the Latin word for thing. The use of Latin re, in the sense of "about, concerning", is English usage."

Reality is that aside from legal matters re is used as an abbreviation for regarding. :angel:

Ahh the dreaded Wiki ! ;)Yes I knew it meant "regarding" rather than the Latin , Should have said that I suppose. Was more centered on correcting Muppets grammar! :D

Disco Muppet

26th March 2013, 11:42 PM

Ahh the dreaded Wiki ! ;)Yes I knew it meant "regarding" rather than the Latin , Should have said that I suppose. Was more centered on correcting Muppets grammar! :D

RE vs Re, gimme a break! :D

X2 as per ozscott on the bar recovery, I only use my eyelets for winch pulls.

Also, why would you remove the horizontal bar?
It's plenty strong and it can't impact the light too much as otherwise it'd be illegal under the ADRs ;)
Still I suppose it comes down to the individual :)

schuy1

26th March 2013, 11:54 PM

:D Glad to see I am not the only insomniac still perusing these hallowed tomes.

Yorkie

27th March 2013, 10:02 AM

the sahara bar is the best for the d2a on looks and practicality.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/03/161.jpg

ozscott

27th March 2013, 10:05 AM

I agree, on the D2a you cant beat the Sahara bar.

Cheers

Disco Muppet

27th March 2013, 10:16 AM

Unless you smack skippy on the outer wings and send his head into your expensive headlights :eek:
I agree though, they look schmick :cool:

Landover

27th March 2013, 10:30 AM

- The ARB bar has towing/recovery points built in. Cheers,

Only the D2 bar had recovery points, the D2a bar has them removed so you have to fit aftermarket ones.

PS: Lets not start the recovery point debate again.

Yorkie

27th March 2013, 10:53 AM

Unless you smack skippy on the outer wings and send his head into your expensive headlights :eek:
I agree though, they look schmick :cool:

you may not be able to see anything on a dark night but the radiator should be ok to continue your journey. ;):)

Disco Muppet

27th March 2013, 10:56 AM

you may not be able to see anything on a dark night but the radiator should be ok to continue your journey. ;):)

Fair point :D
Still, seen the cost of replacement D2a headlights? :eek:

Landover

27th March 2013, 10:58 AM

you may not be able to see anything on a dark night but the radiator should be ok to continue your journey. ;):)

Two torches ad some duct tape will sort that problem out.:D

cjc_td5

27th March 2013, 11:13 AM

...
Also, why would you remove the horizontal bar?
It's plenty strong and it can't impact the light too much as otherwise it'd be illegal under the ADRs ;)
Still I suppose it comes down to the individual :)

Hi Muppet.
The horizontal bar (as arrowed in the attached pic) obscures the separate high beam lamp on a D2a. The pic is taken from above the horizontal and it is just obscuring the lamp, so it would be worse if the pic was taken from a lower angle.

Just my observations anyway... :)

cjc_td5

27th March 2013, 11:18 AM

ozscott

27th March 2013, 11:38 AM

Unless you smack skippy on the outer wings and send his head into your expensive headlights :eek:
I agree though, they look schmick :cool:

Very true - it looks the best, but aint the best for protection.

Cheers

twr7cx

27th March 2013, 12:02 PM

Hi Muppet.
The horizontal bar (as arrowed in the attached pic) obscures the separate high beam lamp on a D2a. The pic is taken from above the horizontal and it is just obscuring the lamp, so it would be worse if the pic was taken from a lower angle.

Just my observations anyway... :)

That is a petty poor design flaw. Ah well, just means you chuck on more driving lights to compensate!

twr7cx

27th March 2013, 12:03 PM

As a side note, can you remove a headlight unit on a D2a with an ARB bar installed?

Can on the ARB Sahara bar.

Disco Muppet

27th March 2013, 12:13 PM

As a side note, can you remove a headlight unit on a D2a with an ARB bar installed? I go through headlight globes at the rate of about one every three months so I would have removed my headlight units dozens of times to changes globes over the 10 years I have owned it. On a TJM bar, the headlight just slides forward between the top bar and main bumper. Does that middle horizontal bar mean that the headlight will not slide forward for removal?

Cheers,

Not sure on the D2a, but if the headlights have the same mounting system as the D2 then yes, I remove my headlights all the time running various wiring into the headlight cavity. Bar doesn't help but it's not a massive hinderance.

BallinaDisco

27th March 2013, 04:56 PM

the sahara bar is the best for the d2a on looks and practicality.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/03/161.jpg

I am currently looking at something for my D2a and think the ARB Sahara is a great looking bar. What I dont like is the $2050 quote i got today fitted and also seeing that you can buy these bars on Amazon in the USA for like $1300! Someone is making money here

twr7cx

27th March 2013, 09:31 PM

I am currently looking at something for my D2a and think the ARB Sahara is a great looking bar. What I dont like is the $2050 quote i got today fitted and also seeing that you can buy these bars on Amazon in the USA for like $1300! Someone is making money here

It seems to be the same with all Australian made 4WD products. I purchased my Safari snorkel from the UK for cheaper than you can buy here (even with the ridiculous postage) despite being an Australian company.
ARB are no different with their rip off prices. Try getting spare components for your bullbar from them!

jon3950

27th March 2013, 09:43 PM

As a side note, can you remove a headlight unit on a D2a with an ARB bar installed? I go through headlight globes at the rate of about one every three months so I would have removed my headlight units dozens of times to changes globes over the 10 years I have owned it. On a TJM bar, the headlight just slides forward between the top bar and main bumper. Does that middle horizontal bar mean that the headlight will not slide forward for removal?

Cheers,

Yes you can, but its very tight and requires a bit of jiggling about.

From memory (its been a while since I had a D2a) one side was much harder than the other on mine. It may be that there is enough variation in the the installation tolerances of the bar to make it either easy or impossible.

Cheers,
Jon

Nicky

27th March 2013, 11:46 PM

As a side note, can you remove a headlight unit on a D2a with an ARB bar installed? I go through headlight globes at the rate of about one every three months so I would have removed my headlight units dozens of times to changes globes over the 10 years I have owned it. On a TJM bar, the headlight just slides forward between the top bar and main bumper. Does that middle horizontal bar mean that the headlight will not slide forward for removal?

Cheers,

Disconnect the plug, tip the lens face down, slide the thinner part of the "wedge" forward first between the middle bar and the main bar.
Installation is the revers of removal.....

Wello

6th January 2014, 09:36 PM

Hi guys,

Resurrecting an old thread, but does anyone have a lead on a good s/h bar for a 2001 disco kicking about. Prefer a full coverage bar like the ARB/ TJM.

Located in Melb north east.

PM or reply to thread, thanks.

Aussie Drifters

11th January 2014, 12:22 PM

Here you go Wello, ARB bar off a D2 I spotted for you, $660

Dammit! why can't I post a photo? It's asking for a url, the picture is on my desktop. Anyway PM me your email address and I can send it through if you are interested

Wello

11th January 2014, 04:59 PM

Thanks mate,

I just snagged a TJM winch bar in real good nick for $550. Not an ARB, but beggars can't be choosers.

Cheers,

Aussie Drifters

11th January 2014, 06:54 PM

Good score! Nothing wrong with TJM, I have one on my old Disco, just they don't make em for my model anymore.

EvilGTV

12th January 2014, 08:03 PM

Thanks mate,

I just snagged a TJM winch bar in real good nick for $550. Not an ARB, but beggars can't be choosers.

Cheers,

Sent you a PM...

brougham

28th February 2014, 10:02 PM

Had mine fitted today. It came in 2 weeks ago but I was away.

Ignore the dirty car. It'll get washed tomorrow! :)73568

ozscott

12th March 2014, 10:32 AM

Thanks mate,

I just snagged a TJM winch bar in real good nick for $550. Not an ARB, but beggars can't be choosers.

Cheers,

Mate I have hit 2 large roos with my TJM bar and only grazing to the powder coat - no dints at all. They were (certainly when Aust made at least) a very strong bar...no poor cousin to the ARB. When I got mine they were about the same price and I decided to get TJM because I liked the fit, look and what I perceived as approach angle etc better.

Cheers

brougham

12th March 2014, 12:01 PM

I had a TJM bar on my D1 and it was just as well built as the ARB bar. I think those two are a personal preference difference, not a quality thing.

carjunkieanon

31st October 2014, 09:22 PM

Has anyone tried a First Four bumper?

Discovery 2 Winch Bumper with Fog Lights (http://www.firstfour.co.uk/item/2171957/discovery-2-winch-bumper-with-fog-lights)

Any idea if it's ADR compliant?

sjane

1st November 2014, 06:19 AM

I have fitted that to my D2.
As the crush cans get deleted it may fail some requirements.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using AULRO mobile app

twr7cx

1st November 2014, 09:19 AM

Has anyone tried a First Four bumper?

Discovery 2 Winch Bumper with Fog Lights (http://www.firstfour.co.uk/item/2171957/discovery-2-winch-bumper-with-fog-lights)

Any idea if it's ADR compliant?

That bar is for a D2, not a D2a. It won't fit a D2a. This thread is about D2a options.

But I doubt it is ADR compliant as it's not sold in Australia, so they would not have gone through the expense of getting compliancy. Also as the above post indicated it deletes the crush cans.

Islandnomad

1st November 2014, 08:38 PM

I recently bought a new Deluxe Bar from ARB for my D2a for approx. $1800 installed, but I had to wait 12 months until ARB had an order of approx. 20 bars before they would commit to a production run. Not sure about the Sahara Bar but I imagine it will be a similar situation re production runs. This is what happens when vehicles get a little older I guess, they don't hold much gear in stock.

I also enquired about a TJM Bar but their factory burnt down a few years ago and a lot of their design drawings were lost specifically for the D2 amongst many others. So they told me they won't be making them any more.

steve_a

3rd November 2014, 09:12 PM

gusthedog

6th November 2014, 11:14 AM

Strange I bought a D2a bar from ARB here in Adelaide about a month or so ago, they just had them with no dramas.
I can't remember if they had the bar or the snorkel in stock, but one of them was out and took the week to some in.
I fitted it myself, mostly, it wasn't a drama at all. I would have a pre-moan and tell them they need to give you LED bulbs for the indicators so that the trailer warning doesn't flash, I have to get around to doing that and I probably won't be bothered to go and nag them about it.

I've spent the last 5 years with little trailers flashing on my dash every time I put my indicators on since I put my ARB bar on. TBH I thought I would get the led bulbs but have not gotten around to it yet. Maybe one day :D

Jazzman

6th November 2014, 12:14 PM

Are there any other bullbar options for the D2a?

ARB:
3432120 Deluxe Winch Bar - Deluxe winch bar | Products | ARB 4x4 Accessories (http://www.arb.com.au/products/arb-protection-equipment/bull-bars/deluxe-bull-bars/3432120/)
3932020 Sahara Bar - Sahara bar | Products | ARB 4x4 Accessories (http://www.arb.com.au/products/arb-protection-equipment/bull-bars/sahara-bars/3932020/)

TJM:
070SB15N39T T15 Steel Bull Bar - Winch Compatible - T15 Steel Bull Bar - Winch Compatible | TJM Australia (http://www.tjm.com.au/en/product/t15-steel-bull-bar-winch-compatible-3)

East Coast Bullbars (ECB):
Big Tube™ Bar - ADR Compliant - With ECB bumper lights - Land Rover Discovery Big Tube™ Bar - ADR Compliant - With ECB bumper lights Series (11/02-12/04) (http://www.ecb.com.au/vehicle.php?Make=19&Model=80&variant=580&SEARCH2.x=31&SEARCH2.y=16&SEARCH2=SEARCH)

Any other options?

Tried searching, but only seem to get threads on fitting D2 bullbars onto D2a or vice versa.

I have an ECB Big Tube bar on my car. It has a hole in the front for winch rope but no holes to mount one, nor does it have the access from the top like most other winch bars.

I just called them today to ask how to mount a winch and they told me they don't make winch bars for D2. They only make them for D4. But i'm struggling to understand why there is a cut out in the front for the winch rope.

Has anyone else experienced this?

twr7cx

6th November 2014, 07:19 PM

steve_a

6th November 2014, 09:30 PM

I've spent the last 5 years with little trailers flashing on my dash every time I put my indicators on since I put my ARB bar on. TBH I thought I would get the led bulbs but have not gotten around to it yet. Maybe one day :D

From the sounds of it, maybe I should revist this thread in 5 years and see if I got around to changing them :)

twr7cx

7th November 2014, 06:57 AM

From the sounds of it, maybe I should revist this thread in 5 years and see if I got around to changing them :)

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery-2/209361-arb-bulbar-led-indicators-park-lights-suit.html

Pedro_The_Swift

7th November 2014, 07:12 AM

I asked ARB about a Sahara bar about two weeks ago and was told none available in Oz,, and no-one on the waiting list---:(
I might ask TRS when I get to SA;)

twr7cx

7th November 2014, 10:59 PM

I asked ARB about a Sahara bar about two weeks ago and was told none available in Oz,, and no-one on the waiting list---:(

Don't just take the word of a single ARB store, try a few others. They are very inconsistent with their service. What one store says is no longer available another store will sell you.

carjunkieanon

8th November 2014, 09:57 PM

I asked ARB about a Sahara bar about two weeks ago and was told none available in Oz,, and no-one on the waiting list---:(
I might ask TRS when I get to SA;)

I asked for a quote on a Sahara bar - they didn't say none in stock

"Sahara Bar for the Discovery 2a $1798.00
Plus $200.00 fitting charge

Colour coding is $245.00 additional, ...

Kind Regards,

David Dennis
Sales Manager

ARB Artarmon

s7000

9th November 2014, 12:21 AM

Don't just take the word of a single ARB store, try a few others.

Or ask a few more questions at the store you're in. I was told I couldn't get side steps from Artarmon ARB and they had no current plans to make any in a reasonable time frame.

The guy who served me ended up calling some other stores, and found some up in Brisbane. (Shipped down at no charge)

They are very inconsistent with their service.

Only shopped there once so can't comment, however was quite happy that they did the homework for me.

Disco Muppet

9th November 2014, 01:54 AM

I asked ARB about a Sahara bar about two weeks ago and was told none available in Oz,, and no-one on the waiting list---:(
I might ask TRS when I get to SA;)

You'll be lucky.
Sahara bars are bleh anyway, why would you want a more expensive bar that doesn't cover your $$$ update headlights :p

twr7cx

9th November 2014, 08:23 AM

You'll be lucky.
Sahara bars are bleh anyway, why would you want a more expensive bar that doesn't cover your $$$ update headlights :p

Looks way better - like way way way better - and has fog light fittings.
But each to their own and after years with the Sahara bar my original headlights are still intact...

Roverlord off road spares

9th November 2014, 09:50 AM

If I recall correctly, the ARB bars stick out further, the winch if fitted is fitted to the bar directly. The TJM ones don't stick out and use a dedicated winch cradle that sits between the chassis rails. I believe the TJM ones have a better approach angle than the ARBs. Depends on whether you want a protection for highway travel or whether you go off road.
The ARB bars look more aggressive, the TJM ones look more subtle.

Disco Muppet

9th November 2014, 04:33 PM

Looks way better - like way way way better - and has fog light fittings.
But each to their own and after years with the Sahara bar my original headlights are still intact...

That's entirely subjective.
How many of our bouncing friends have you knocked down in that time?
The roo I hit would have smashed my left hand side if I had a Sahara...

kelvo

9th November 2014, 08:57 PM

Looks way better - like way way way better - and has fog light fittings.
But each to their own and after years with the Sahara bar my original headlights are still intact...

The Deluxe bar for the D2a also has fog light fittings to use the factory fog lights, probably the exact same fittings as with the Sahara.

d2dave

9th November 2014, 09:49 PM

Looks way better - like way way way better - and has fog light fittings.
But each to their own and after years with the Sahara bar my original headlights are still intact...

I agonized over this for 18 months and finally decided on the full bar and I reckon it looks great.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/11/670.jpg

The upside to this over the sahara bar is that the driving lights are further apart, alowing for much more air flow to the radiator.

kelvo

9th November 2014, 10:58 PM

I agonized over this for 18 months and finally decided on the full bar and I reckon it looks great.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/11/670.jpg

The upside to this over the sahara bar is that the driving lights are further apart, alowing for much more air flow to the radiator.

Looks good with the Fyrlyts :)

The Sahara bar has the newer 'split pan' design that allows more air through the bar, so getting around aux lights restricting the air flow too much.

Scouse

10th November 2014, 06:31 AM

I agonized over this for 18 months and finally decided on the full bar and I reckon it looks great.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/11/670.jpg

The upside to this over the sahara bar is that the driving lights are further apart, alowing for much more air flow to the radiator.Are they the LR fog lights or are they a 'generic' light ARB use?
I have a bar which needs lights & just deciding what to fit in the holes - fogs or DRLs.

d2dave

10th November 2014, 07:55 AM

The fogs are the original LR ones taken from the old bumper bar.

Islandnomad

10th November 2014, 08:46 AM

I've got one of those too in black, they do look great don't they!!!!!

Young1

14th November 2016, 03:15 PM

My ARB Bullbar will be coming in the mail in about 3 weeks, to 3 months, time.
depends if they have it in stock or not and ready to ship to Perth

I looked into MCC but the staff member didn't even seem to know they made it for a D2, so I ultimately passed on it.

Xrox are a lot cheaper, and you can see it. not a very elegant bar in my opinion.

Just wish my ARB didn't cost and arm, a leg and my first born son to buy though...