General running costs?

[Ramikan]

Hi all,

Im still new here, and new to the world of off roading. Iv been searching around for 4x4's for a while and I keep coming back to Land Rovers.

Now, bare with me as my mechanical knowledge is limited. Im looking at a 97 Disco 1 2.5TD in auto and I was wondering if anyone could give me a rough idea of what the running costs would be?

ie Servicing, rego, insurance (only basic) dosnt have to be too in depth.

And is all the talk of them being unreliable and a money hole true?
I know this is a very broad question, but any advice would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks,
Andrew.

[THE BOOGER]

Hi all,

Im still new here, and new to the world of off roading. Iv been searching around for 4x4's for a while and I keep coming back to Land Rovers.

Now, bare with me as my mechanical knowledge is limited. Im looking at a 97 Disco 1 2.5TD in auto and I was wondering if anyone could give me a rough idea of what the running costs would be?

ie Servicing, rego, insurance (only basic) dosnt have to be too in depth.

And is all the talk of them being unreliable and a money hole true?
I know this is a very broad question, but any advice would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks,
Andrew.

Like any car if you get a bad one then it can be a money pit, BUT get a good d1 300 tdi and you have a car for life and they are very capable off rd and as far as turbo diesels go cheap to run around 11 lt per 100k . I have one and so does my son his had problems mine hasnt (so far):D As for rego and insurence in queensland a local will help you better there.

PS repairs by mechanics can be expensive, but the engine is easy to work on even with limited know how if you can read a manual do what you can yourself

[sheerluck]

Rego will cost you less than a Commodore, as the 300TDi is a 4 cylinder, at $650 for a year.

Insurance, well my V8 costs me $300 per year with Youi fully comp.

Servicing, depends if you can hold a spanner. An oil change is going to be much the same cost for a Disco as for any other 4wd

[Ramikan]

Insurance, well my V8 costs me $300 per year with Youi fully comp.

Servicing, depends if you can hold a spanner. An oil change is going to be much the same cost for a Disco as for any other 4wd

I probably should have added that im 21 and still on my P plates (only for another 10 or so months though) So even my 4cyl Camry costs me $600 a year for basic 3rd party. But that gives me a little bit of an idea, thanks mate.

I have a mate whos a diesel mechanic, so Im going to be learning as much as I can from him so I could start to do a lot of work myself, save some pennies.



Like any car if you get a bad one then it can be a money pit, BUT get a good d1 300 tdi and you have a car for life and they are very capable off rd and as far as turbo diesels go cheap to run around 11 lt per 100k . I have one and so does my son his had problems mine hasnt (so far):D As for rego and insurence in queensland a local will help you better there.

PS repairs by mechanics can be expensive, but the engine is easy to work on even with limited know how if you can read a manual do what you can yourself

True, but iv herd more people getting bad ones then good ones. Another thought I was having was would it be better to get newer TD5 with (possibly) less problems, saving money and the headaches in the long run? But then again, increased running costs.

[sheerluck]

.......True, but iv herd more people getting bad ones then good ones. Another thought I was having was would it be better to get newer TD5 with (possibly) less problems, saving money and the headaches in the long run? But then again, increased running costs.

You've probably also heard that Toyota are the ultimate in reliability, 4wds should only be taken off road with a 12 inch lift and tractor tyres and that fairies live at the bottom of the garden. Doesn't make it true.

If you're looking at a D1, then it will be a minimum of 15 years old. Set your expectations of required repairs accordingly.

[Ramikan]

Iv herd a lot about Toyota being the true off roader with the best reliability, but my mate has a 70 series Cruiser and theres always something wrong with it. The age of the D1's is what has got me thinking that maybe forking out a little more for a newer D2 would be better in the long run?

Again, it'd be the same making sure you got a good one and not a lemon.

[Blknight.aus]

a TDI D1 Auto all told including rego, depending on KM/s year will run you about $5k/year average assuming that the thing is in reasonable-ish condition to start with and based on all basic service Items are done DIY.

thats a overall average and covers things like Tyres, timing belts, rego compulsory third party, oils filters wheel bearings and brakes with just enough fat on the budget over 3 years to also do other major maintenance items.

TO run it as a drive it into the ground vehicle you can drop that down to $2k/yr assuming you only do the oils and filters and pay full rego+ctp.

[sheerluck]

Whether you choose to go with a D1 or D2 (and there are plenty of threads on here discussing the pros and cons of that argument), you are going to be buying a very capable vehicle in bog standard guise.

However, you would need to get it checked over by an expert. Ricks 4wd would be a good place to start.

[Landy Smurf]

i personally really like the 300tdi.
You are in a good location for getting spares so that should not be as much of a problem.
If you want to do work yourself or are confident to do it yourself then the 300tdi would be good, if you are going to get someone else to do it maybe go for a td5.
maybe go to a few dealerships and take some for a drive and see if you like one over the other

[steelo]

Insurance, well my V8 costs me $300 per year with Youi fully comp.



WHAT!!!!!!!!, :eek2:

[sheerluck]

WHAT!!!!!!!!, :eek2:


$325.14 to be exact, with a $50 windscreen excess, and $500 basic excess. Or it was $306.30 without the lowered windscreen excess. What, you think that's too much?

I didn't think that was too bad, not considering SWMBO's Merc ML320 is $422 per year.

[steelo]

$325.14 to be exact, with a $50 windscreen excess, and $500 basic excess. Or it was $306.30 without the lowered windscreen excess. What, you think that's too much?

I didn't think that was too bad, not considering SWMBO's Merc ML320 is $422 per year.

Ours is $611.28
with complete windscreen (1 a yr),
protected no claim bonus rating 1,
$450 excess,
no driver under 30,
& named driver option
soooo no I don't think it's to much :censored: :p is a V8 but

[OlliesLRover]

What ever you buy make sure you check for rust, both footwells - both alpine windows & lift the carpet in the cargo area other wise the running cost could escalate very quickly.

Rich

[Ramikan]

Ricks 4wd would be a good place to start.

Would they be any good at anything else other then vehicle servicing/inspections? I Literally live 4 minutes drive from them.

I think im going to stick with a D1. Im not all that impressed that the TD5 falls into the V6 rego price bracket in Qld, so going to be sticking with a 4cyl.

As for dealerships, I had a walk through one the other week, had a good time looking at all the new defenders and Disco's, but when I asked if they had any used it was a Disco for 57k, not sure on the year. And that was it.

Iv seen one or two at various dealerships, but they've all been V8's.

So anyone know where I could possibly find one (or a few lol), or is private seller the better option?

[Judo]

Would they be any good at anything else other then vehicle servicing/inspections? I Literally live 4 minutes drive from them.

I think im going to stick with a D1. Im not all that impressed that the TD5 falls into the V6 rego price bracket in Qld, so going to be sticking with a 4cyl.

As for dealerships, I had a walk through one the other week, had a good time looking at all the new defenders and Disco's, but when I asked if they had any used it was a Disco for 57k, not sure on the year. And that was it.

Iv seen one or two at various dealerships, but they've all been V8's.

So anyone know where I could possibly find one (or a few lol), or is private seller the better option?
Private is your best bet. Personally I don't believe a dealer is going to give you a better vehicle in any way. They don't fix anything they don't need to. Check out the markets section on here. There is always a Disco or two for sale and you can ask plenty of questions about it's condition and history.

Good luck!

[sheerluck]

Would they be any good at anything else other then vehicle servicing/inspections? I Literally live 4 minutes drive from them.

I'm not sure what else you'd expect from a mechanic?:D



I think im going to stick with a D1. Im not all that impressed that the TD5 falls into the V6 rego price bracket in Qld, so going to be sticking with a 4cyl.

As for dealerships, I had a walk through one the other week, had a good time looking at all the new defenders and Disco's, but when I asked if they had any used it was a Disco for 57k, not sure on the year. And that was it.

Iv seen one or two at various dealerships, but they've all been V8's.

So anyone know where I could possibly find one (or a few lol), or is private seller the better option?

You will probably struggle to find a D1 in any variety of dealers, given their age now. Looking on carsales, there are only 3 out of 24 D1s listed at dealers. Start there first, as at least you can get a good idea what a D1 is all about without any obligation.

If you buy from a dealer, it will come with a hefty price premium, and a limited 1 month statutory warranty to show for that premium.

In your position, I would go for a private sale, but take it to Rick's before you hand over your hard earned. Or post a request on here, There are a few members that would do such an inspection for you for beer money. ;)

[Ramikan]

I'm not sure what else you'd expect from a mechanic?:D


Hahah, true. Their website has says all things Land Rover, so you never know :p



You will probably struggle to find a D1 in any variety of dealers, given their age now. Looking on carsales, there are only 3 out of 24 D1s listed at dealers. Start there first, as at least you can get a good idea what a D1 is all about without any obligation.

Iv been looking on carsales a lot as of recent, theres only about 2 or 3 that are within a reasonable distance from where I live, usually in pretty bad shape too.




but take it to Rick's before you hand over your hard earned. Or post a request on here, There are a few members that would do such an inspection for you for beer money. ;)

Probably number one rule when buying a car? well, in my books anyway. I was going to take it to RACQ as iv been with them a while and do trust them, but now I think ricks is going to be first port of call. As for members doing inspections, how would I go about finding out who is close? Would there be a particular forum?



Check out the markets section on here. There is always a Disco or two for sale and you can ask plenty of questions about it's condition and history.

Good luck!

Iv had a look around here before, seen some good ones, partly what made me join up, haha.



On another note, I saw there was a video on youtube from Vic about an aulro meetup from some show or 4x4 channel, you all seem to be a friendly bunch of people :)

[steelo]

Insurance, well my V8 costs me $300 per year with Youi fully comp.


Just did some ringing to Youi & got a quote for about the same as yours BUT while talking to person on phone & then checking their book there is some interesting things.
Under "Car Cover Exclusions" on page 36 paragraph 14, you are NOT covered in ANY 4wd or Adventure Park, contest or skill tests. He verbally specifically mentioned LCMP & the likes, just curious if you know this? :confused:

[sheerluck]

Just did some ringing to Youi & got a quote for about the same as yours BUT while talking to person on phone & then checking their book there is some interesting things.
Under "Car Cover Exclusions" on page 36 paragraph 14, you are NOT covered in ANY 4wd or Adventure Park, contest or skill tests. He verbally specifically mentioned LCMP & the likes, just curious if you know this? :confused:

I knew about the competition use, but in terms of location, I asked the specific question about being covered anywhere inside the shorelines of Australia. To which the answer was yes. I was told that so long as I was driving within the manufacturer's specifications, then I was covered.

I shall ask the question again though, as what you have there is different to what I was told.

[steelo]

I knew about the competition use, but in terms of location, I asked the specific question about being covered anywhere inside the shorelines of Australia. To which the answer was yes. I was told that so long as I was driving within the manufacturer's specifications, then I was covered.

I shall ask the question again though, as what you have there is different to what I was told.

We can email you the brochure if you want or is there a way to attach on here? I've tried this -

36 Car Cover Exclusions (cnt’d) 37
•• fails a drug test administered by the police
service or Government agency;
20. if the driver of your car leaves the scene of an
accident without lawful excuse;
21. by liquids escaping from your car, unless your car
was involved in an accident immediately before the
escape;
22. by the use or application of car parts or
accessories which are not recommended or
specified by the manufacturer;
23. by the use, or accidental addition by any person,
of incorrect lubricants, fuel, oil or other fluids,
which are not recommended or specified by the
manufacturer;
24. by the failure to properly replace and/or secure
fuel, oil and other caps or lids fitted to your car;
25. if your car is being towed illegally or your car is
being used to tow a trailer or any other vehicle
illegally.
13. when your car is being used for transporting
dangerous, hazardous or poisonous materials;
14. when your car is being used on a permanent or
temporary racetrack, raceway or course, or in a
four wheel drive or adventure park, or if it is used
for racing, trials, speed tests, pacing, contests,
rallies or for endurance or skills tests;
15. when your car or trailer is being used while it is
overloaded, unsafe, not roadworthy, unregistered
or not meeting relevant Government transport
regulations regarding the correct use of a motor
vehicle;
16. when your car is being driven by a person who
does not have a valid driver’s licence of the correct
type and class to drive your car, or who did not
observe the terms of their driver’s licence;
17. when your car is being driven by a person whose
driver’s licence is suspended, cancelled or has
special terms applied to it unless you have told us

[sheerluck]

That certainly looks different to the PDS that I recall. I'll have to try and find the one I had. If it has changed, then they won't be getting a renewal for the Disco.

[steelo]

That certainly looks different to the PDS that I recall. I'll have to try and find the one I had. If it has changed, then they won't be getting a renewal for the Disco.

The way I read that is, that even a GPS type comp is a no goer :(