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noyakfat
26th March 2013, 11:33 AM
Hi all,

In my ongoing quest for knowledge about Defenders (and to add further fuel to the fire that is my desire to own one of these beasts by next year) I was able to test drive one this morning :) I just thought I'd share my initial impressions of a couple of commonly mentioned things.

I took a 110 station wagon 5-seater (Orkney Grey) for a test drive today and let's just say I think I'm in love :)

My expectations were quite low, given the negative things I have read about certain aspects such as cabin noise, seat comfort, leg-room, clunky gear box, high-revving thingy during gear changes... etc etc.

I had a good long drive and I must say I didn't experience anything that I would consider problematic. However, I've decided it is all relative. That is, it depends on the vehicle being compared to the Defender. My last fourby (which I had for 7 years) was a 97 Nissan Patrol GQ Wagon, which was quite "agricultural" as well.

I am a sniffter under 6ft 2in, and I actually was surprised with the legroom and overall seating position comfort I experienced in the LR. I found the seat very supportive (far better than what I had in the Nissan) and despite having to put the seat back to its rearmost position I felt I could comfortably drive that vehicle for a long stint. I have always been in favour of the elbow on the sill anyway, so that was a natural extension for me.

There was no problem with gear shifting, even though the Salesman told me that many people have problems operating the clutch??? I found that an upshift anywhere between 2,000 to 2,500 rpm was fine, and I suspect some people having issues may perhaps be trying to throw the stick into the next gear position without that slight little almost two-stage stick shift movement that just seems to work. We have to remember we are not driving sports cars, but work trucks :)

I did pick up (audibly) the high revving sensation a couple of times, but again this didn't cause any noticeable effect on driving the vehicle in a variety of traffic and road conditions.

With the windows up, fanging along the highway at 100km/hr, I found the cabin noise to be a non-issue. It was most certainly on par with my Nissan and may have even been quieter. Conversation was maintained at an easy level.

Overall, I absolutely loved it! I was very pleasantly surprised and I still have a big stupid grin on my face. I even found myself waving to another grey defender while driving home in our subaru forester :)

I am now hoping the rest of the year passes by with relative speed so it won't be too much longer until I can get my hands on a Puma of my own.

Cheers,
Nige

Loubrey
26th March 2013, 12:07 PM
And another one is born...:D

Well done mate and hope you'll have it in your driveway before long!

Cheers,

Lou

discojools
26th March 2013, 12:20 PM
Nige,
What lovely story!

rick130
26th March 2013, 12:20 PM
Mate, you're the same height as moi and SWMBO has had a GQ through the nineties and now a GU for the last eleven years.

The Deefer is much more comfy for me on a trip than either Nissan has been, although the GU kills it for noise or more correctly the lack of.

noyakfat
26th March 2013, 12:34 PM
Mate, you're the same height as moi and SWMBO has had a GQ and now a GU for the last eleven years.

The Deefer is much more comfy for me on a trip than either Nissan has been, although the GU kills it for noise or more correctly the lack of.

Thanks Rick,

I guess I am "fortunate" to have only owned base model commercials before, so I don't have too high an expectation to begin with. I certainly loved the Defender and that "cement" in my vehicle choice is starting to harden...

The most difficult thing will be patience. I will have to wait at least another 7 months or so, but at least I can do lots of research in that time.

I will also be one of those boring types who orders a Fuji white :)

Nick S
26th March 2013, 12:37 PM
Hi Nige
must be that time of the year, I also took a new Puma 110 for a drive on Sat in Melb and have to agree with you, nice car, bit basic inside compared to my RRC but had a good feel, plenty of power and relatively quiet. The only thing I could not work out was the HUGE turning circle, maybe the steering stops were not adjusted properly. So now the dilemma, what to do with the RRC with 14 year of work on it and a heap of good bits like MD lockers front and rear and a really nice 4.6 etc
Nick

LoveB
26th March 2013, 12:43 PM
enjoy... see you in canberra soon ;)

noyakfat
26th March 2013, 01:35 PM
Hi Nige The only thing I could not work out was the HUGE turning circle. So now the dilemma, what to do with the RRC with 14 year of work on it and a heap of good bits like MD lockers front and rear and a really nice 4.6 etc
Nick

I found it as good as the GQ I used to drive with 33's on it. I became quite skilled at backing into all my car parking situations with that vehicle, and I'm sure it was a good apprenticeship for Defender ownership.

As for the RRC, I'm sure you'll find any number of salivating potential owners on this site once you can bring yourself to sever that umbilical cord :p

Nick S
26th March 2013, 02:01 PM
Yes Nige
its a bit like severing the umbilical, guess its just going to take time to get over it!

ugu80
27th March 2013, 06:41 AM
despite having to put the seat back to its rearmost position I felt I could comfortably drive that vehicle for a long stint.
Nige

Don't forget Mulgo can give you more room if you want it.

rick130
27th March 2013, 07:18 AM
Don't forget Mulgo can give you more room if you want it.


Some 22mm spacers and longer bolts under the runners will achieve the same result too.

Much nicer for those of us long of limb.

noyakfat
29th March 2013, 08:44 AM
Thanks Guys,

I have already spent a lot of time on Daniel's website. I thought the first mods would be seat rail extensions and an ex-box :) Ah well, several months to wait before it all happens. More dreaming time...

78RRman
29th March 2013, 11:18 AM
Just don't cut the cord my rrc is still in the drive my wife loves it:D " I'm going to restore it one day its a classic" then i get the eye roll " just get one that's already done "oh so I can have three your so kind sweetheart"

Bess
29th March 2013, 12:15 PM
Hey Nige, I'am glad to hear you enjoyed your Defender experience. The whole Landy thing is something you have to experience to truly understand. The new Pumas are great touring trucks,the wife & I just love getting out in ours. I have always thought that if you are going to spend a fair bit of time behind a wheel it may as well be in something that makes you smile. As the other posts have mentioned the wheel spacers & steering stop adjustment make a huge difference to her day to day driving experience. The list is endless & you can really make her your own. Shame your not in VIC, I could give you some more drives till yours turns up. All the best Chris.:D