kids seats in the 3rd row

[Gullible]

Hi,
We took our 7 seater Disco to Kids Safe to get the kid's seats checked and they said not to connect the kid's seats to the luggage anchor points as they are not rated for a crash.

Does anybody have any tips where/how to fix the kids seat anchor points so we can put the kids seats back in the 3rd row?

We can not ignore the Kids Safe advise as we need their certification for my wife to start taking other children as a family day carer.

[Trippy]

I found something that looks like an anchor point underneath a plastic cover in centre ceiling just inside the tail door. It probably couldn't be used for the 3rd row seats though since it's in the middle? It might be for anchoring a child seat in the middle of 2nd row.

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[brougham]

Not many vehicles have child restraint points for the 3rd row. You can get an engineer to install points on the floor at the back if you need them.

[Trippy]

You can buy anchor points from BigW, Target and Kmart. I installed an anchor point into a 2-seater Suzuki Carry van so that my son could ride with me in the van. The police pulled us over once to check out his restraint and they had no problems with it. I just drilled a hole in the tray floor behind the seat and attached the anchor point with the included nut and bolt. You should be able to do the same somewhere in the Disco. Floor or ceiling.

EDIT: I found an identical one on Super Cheap Auto's website: Mother's Choice Child Restraint - Vehicle Anchor Kit - Supercheap Auto Australia (http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Mother-s-Choice-Child-Restraint-Vehicle-Anchor-Kit.aspx?pid=3181#Cross)

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[Gullible]

OK, I think I get it.

The large washer goes under the floor to distribute the forces in a crash.

It that all there is to it?

If so I could probably use the existing luggage tie-down holes.

[Trippy]

If so I could probably use the existing luggage tie-down holes.

I think the anchor point should be directly behind the seat, not slightly to the side like the luggage point would be. But don't quote me on this. Ask the people at Kids Safe.

[Trippy]

Maybe you could even use the tail door to attach the anchor points. Plenty of good metal to attach to there.

[Gullible]

Trippy, you have way too much time on your hands.... ;)

[gromit]

OK, I think I get it.

The large washer goes under the floor to distribute the forces in a crash.

It that all there is to it?

If so I could probably use the existing luggage tie-down holes.


I don't think you are just meant to just drill a hole and mount. That type is for where the car manufacturer has a threaded insert already installed, often on the parcel shelf in an older vehicle.

You should be able to get a mounting installed behind the seats but sometime a bar is required (depending how much plastic trim etc. is in the way). Kids Safe should be able to put you on to an installer (or just look up Yellow Pages), they will know where/how to install the mounting point safely.
The wife had a Delica some years ago, we had 3 points installed in the floor without any problems. We then looked at a few other cars and they all needed a bar behind the 3rd row seats.


Colin

[Gullible]

Poop.

Took the Disco to the installer and they said "no way"

The rear seats are not designed to have the child seat straps go over them. The issue being that in the event of a crash the straps could overload the backrest part of the seat coursing the seat to break, thus allowing the child seat to move forward a significant amount.

There is no way to mount the anchor points above the seats as the top of the child seats are past the rear frame of the car (within the window recess).

The issue is not so much the location or method of mounting the anchor points more the design of the 3rd row of seats themselves. This is not good, being able to put kids in the 3rd row was the main reason we changed Discos in the first place.

Anyone know of a thin child seat that you can fit 3 in the middle row of a Disco 2?

[Gullible]

I think the anchor point should be directly behind the seat, not slightly to the side like the luggage point would be. But don't quote me on this. Ask the people at Kids Safe.

Sorry Trippy,
I thought you were joking around adding odd links to your posts. I followed a few and found kids safe headphones and a Whale tail door knocker.:confused:

I have just noticed similar links in another post. I guess it must be a new feature of the website to automatically add links to key words. :(

[bell1975]

Anyone know of a thin child seat that you can fit 3 in the middle row of a Disco 2?

Yep. This one (http://www.britax.com.au/car-seats/compaq-2). We've got two of them and we reckon you could get a third one in there too.

They are certainly not the cheapest car seat around but it's one of those things I don't believe you should skimp on. A bit like workshop tools and beer!

The anchors for the middle row of seats are on the backs of the seats themselves. You'll just need the standard bolt and "hanger". I haven't got a photo of one installed but I can take one in a couple of days' time if you like.

HTH

[wopac5]

two out board on the back of the seats, the inboard anchor is in the centre of the header above the rear cargo door. (Keeps the boot space clear.
With the law change that means "older" kids still need to be "booster" seated in approved seats has relegated the 7 seat arrangement in these vehicles redundant...it would be an absolute pain to lift in to the very rear seats as well, unless your a contortionist.

[carjunkieanon]

We have 3 Safe & Sound seats across the middle of our D2 - behind the passenger is a reversible seat for a newborn, the other 2 seats are suitable for up to 7 years old. We use the two outboard anchor points on the seat backs, and the anchor point above the rear door for the middle seat. The three seats fit without any squashing when you close the door.

In the 3rd row of seats we just use a booster seat for an over 4 year old child. Seats are definitely not ones to be using a child seat that requires an anchor.

R