Rural mum needs advice!

[Lor.13]

I need advise!
I live remotely and rely on my 4WD to get home in winter. I bought a 1996 Discovery in August and after hitting a roo 2 months later, I noticed oil and coolant leaks. After full assessment by Landrover Specialist in ACT, there report stated,

leaking coolant from Water Pump,
Speedo Fluctuates recommend replacing instrument cluster
Numerous oil leaks from engine and gearbox, Engine oil blowing out the dipstick tube, and recommend Engine requires overhaul. Quoted $8000.
Im unsure what to do???
The rest of the vehicle is in great condition!

Laura
:(

[Eevo]

[1]leaking coolant from Water Pump,
[2]Speedo Fluctuates recommend replacing instrument cluster
[3]Numerous oil leaks from engine and gearbox, Engine oil blowing out the dipstick tube, and recommend Engine requires overhaul. Quoted $8000.


welcome
second opinions are always a good idea when large amounts of money are involved

1) common in all cars, get it done
2) have you noticed this yourself? does it bother you? if not, maybe ignore it
3) can get a new engine and a half for 8k. seems overpriced but engine requires overhaul doesnt tell much either.

[Blknight.aus]

If you're handy with the spanners buy the RAVE Cd from the shop (in the header row)

pretty much everything on the disco 1's is userfixable but the oil out the dipstick thing i typically a gone set of rings and that means engine strip and rebuild.

[zealand]

I need advise!



I live remotely and rely on my 4WD to get home in winter. I bought a 1996 Discovery in August and after hitting a roo 2 months later, I noticed oil and coolant leaks. After full assessment by Landrover Specialist in ACT, there report stated,

leaking coolant from Water Pump,
Speedo Fluctuates recommend replacing instrument cluster
Numerous oil leaks from engine and gearbox, Engine oil blowing out the dipstick tube, and recommend Engine requires overhaul. Quoted $8000.
Im unsure what to do???
The rest of the vehicle is in great condition!

Laura
:(


Hi

All of the above could be correct,

But If it was mine I would be removing the cyclone breather and

1: Clean it out with degreaser / kero / whatever you have lying around thehouse

2: Just buy a new one [not that expensive on flee bay approx $ 50 ] you willneed a new "O" ring as well

My way of thinking is if the breather is blocked that will cause excesscrankcase pressure and the dipstick is the best exit for all the pressure toescape

leaking coolant from Water Pump

If asBlknight.aus said you're handy with the spanners buy theRAVE Cd

New pump approx $ 90 to $150

"P" gasket and three [3] new bolts it's not a hard job to do

Speedo Fluctuates

Leave it alone and fit a cheap GPS again off fleebay, far more accurate anyway.

[Xtreme]

Hi Laura,

There's been mention of the RAVE CD which you probably don't realise but it's a very very handy workshop manual describing many procedures in detail.

Also to assist with your obtaining a second opinion I've attached a National listing of Land Rover experienced repairers - a handy doc to have in the glovebox when travelling. A friend recently had cause to use and now recommends Canberra Motor Works at Mitchell.

[p38arover]

Hi

All of the above could be correct,

But If it was mine I would be removing the cyclone breather and

1: Clean it out with degreaser / kero / whatever you have lying around thehouse

2: Just buy a new one [not that expensive on flee bay approx $ 50 ] you willneed a new "O" ring as well

My way of thinking is if the breather is blocked that will cause excesscrankcase pressure and the dipstick is the best exit for all the pressure toescape

leaking coolant from Water Pump

If asBlknight.aus said you're handy with the spanners buy theRAVE Cd

New pump approx $ 90 to $150

"P" gasket and three [3] new bolts it's not a hard job to do

Speedo Fluctuates

Leave it alone and fit a cheap GPS again off fleebay, far more accurate anyway.

You assumed a diesel. The poster hasn't said if the engine is diesel or petrol.

[D110V8D]

It's a diesel. :)

[Graeme]

My way of thinking is if the breather is blocked that will cause excesscrankcase pressure and the dipstick is the best exit for all the pressure toescapeAbsolutely and from experience wiring the dipstick in place only causes oil to leak from gaskets until the breather is unblocked.

[D2Drover]

Hi Laura,
If all else fails, as in the engine needs a rebuild, you might like to try a listing of Land Rover wreckers and see what might be available, then get a mechanic to install for you. That could save you thousands.

Good luck and hope you find an answer to your predicament.

Cheers
D2D

[justinc]

That breather on the top of the rocker cover is responsible for a few misdiagnoses over the years:(. If blocked it can show excesssive crankcase pressure problems, hence their comment about engine overhaul. I would remove it and test again. I know this for a fact as I was almost caught with that scenario many years back. It is quite rare though as since then I have checked numerous others in the past 10 years and seen only 2 with partial blockages. Luckily the engine in question didn't get the overhaul, as the culprit was discovered in time BUT it could've been a very costly mistake.

As for the other items I would take the advice from the comments above :)

JC

[Chops]

I remember travelling through "I think", Bombala, a few years ago and the mechanic there looked like he was a bit of a Land Rover tragic too. Don't know if he'd still be there now, but might be worth a try seeing as its not that far from you.

[zealand]

You assumed a diesel. The poster hasn't said if the engine is diesel or petrol.


I did, but I was right...:D

[p38arover]

Being a several times V8 owner, I'd have assumed a V8. :D

[shining]

My D1 has had;
1. leaking water pump - parts less than $100
2. Replaced the instrument cluster - made no difference actually a poor electrical connection at the transfer case.
3. Breather tube ..or my dipstick tube had fractured (metal fatigue from vibration) at the mounting clamp.
I will sell you my D1 for $8k. 360,000km and going strong!!! ;-)

[zealand]

Being a several times V8 owner, I'd have assumed a V8. :D



The only trouble with all this assuming thing is in the end it makes an,
ASS-U-ME- :banban:

[Lor.13]

Just wanted to thank every one for your advise. I will get rave cd and check breather hose for blockage. Hopefully that's the problem! Will let you know how it goes...
Also why would I be having issues stating car on cold mornings when use alpine deisel?

Laura

[D2Drover]

Hi Laura,
It seems that it may well be a worn out engine after all, not saying that's the case but usually, when a Diesel engine has trouble starting on cold mornings, it's because there is not enough compression to ignite the fuel and sometimes the glow plugs just aren't enough to boost fuel temp. It's about then it requires an aerosol spray called Aerostart with which you spray down the air inlet.

When it comes to having to use this stuff, it usually means the end is near.
I certainly hope this is not the case, and someone else can help clear this up for you.

One question please, how many klm's has it done?

[disco2_dan]

You assumed a diesel. The poster hasn't said if the engine is diesel or petrol.

Yes they did she said it was a td5

[sheerluck]

Yes they did she said it was a td5

Unusual in a 1996 D1.

[slug_burner]

It's a diesel. :)

A guess! What did you base it on?

[slug_burner]

I need advise!
I live remotely and rely on my 4WD to get home in winter. I bought a 1996 Discovery in August and after hitting a roo 2 months later, I noticed oil and coolant leaks. After full assessment by Landrover Specialist in ACT, there report stated,

leaking coolant from Water Pump,
Speedo Fluctuates recommend replacing instrument cluster
Numerous oil leaks from engine and gearbox, Engine oil blowing out the dipstick tube, and recommend Engine requires overhaul. Quoted $8000.
Im unsure what to do???
The rest of the vehicle is in great condition!

Laura
:(

get new water pump,
speedo, up to you. GPS is used by many but I doubt it would pass a roadworthy.

numerous oil leaks engine and gearbox and crankcase pressure. This one together with the difficulty in starting suggests a worn engine. If your battery is in good health and the engine spins up nice and fast then you are likely to be low on compression (worn internals of the engine). Do you wait for the glow plugs to do their thing or are you trying to start without glowing the engine?

Did the mechanics report provide individual cylinder pressures?.

300 Tdi engines can be had second hand but they still demand a good price and with a cheap unknown one you may not improve your situation significantly.

Here is a cheap one (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/300tdi-engine-complete-with-Turbo-Injector-pump-injectors-power-steering-pump-/271185423602?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f23e92cf2) but it will need a bit of money to get the head sorted and you will still need the water pump as it is missing on this one.

This one (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/300-TDI-ENGINE-SHORT-BLOCK-MOTOR-HEAD-GASKET-Discovery-1-One-Defender-Pre-Owned-/230948830873?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35c59f7e99) needs more work and it does not come with a warranty. Wreckers will sometimes offer a short warranty if they are confident of the condition of what they are selling.

For the price of this one (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1998-LANDROVER-DICOVERY-2-5-300-TDi-ENGINE-3-MTH-WARRANTY-/330894871359?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d0adf0b3f) you would expect a warranty, within the 3mths as this one comes with you could drive it and test it to ensure it was not a total lemon.

With this one (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Land-Rover-Discovery-300tdi-Engine-Complete-Defender-Series-Range-Rover-/251244548329?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a7f5790e9) it sounds ok in as far as it has been tested but good luck claiming on any warranty (if the reference to Austria is a typo) although the shipping is not that expensive, just need to sort out what duty you would be up for.

You could call Hans on this one (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Landrover-300TDi-long-motor-/321101425046?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ac322e996)


We are getting a bit ahead of ourselves here with the replacement engine until you get someone else to check it out for you.

[zealand]

A guess! What did you base it on?


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I live remotely and rely on my 4WD to get home

lor.13
1: lives remotely
2: wants and relays on it to get home
3: if it was a v8 she would have brought a D4 instead
4: not enough fuel stations in the whole of the ACT to run a v8 anyway
4: Not stated that it was on gas
5: A 200 / 300 TDI would fit all of her requiments on rely on my 4WD to get home

:twisted:.............

[D110V8D]

A guess! What did you base it on?

I know Laura. I directed her here to try help her find a solution to her problems with the 300tdi engine in her disco. :)

[PhilipA]

I know Laura. I directed her here to try help her find a solution to her
problems with the 300tdi engine in her disco

Mate, IMHO one of the problems of this post is not enough information, or information so general that it is useless.

Could you go have a look at the car and report to the forum in "Land Rover" language?
Alternatively direct Laura to a mechanic who knows Land Rovers and can give an accurate diagnosis.
Again IMHO we haven't really got anywhere near actually helping her.
Regard sPhilip A

[D110V8D]

Mate, IMHO one of the problems of this post is not enough information, or information so general that it is useless.

Could you go have a look at the car and report to the forum in "Land Rover" language?
Alternatively direct Laura to a mechanic who knows Land Rovers and can give an accurate diagnosis.
Again IMHO we haven't really got anywhere near actually helping her.
Regard sPhilip A

Mate, If I could, I would but the vehicle in question is 8 hours away from where I am. It's difficult to contact Laura at the best of times and the information I have is basically what's been posted here already.
I only have contacts for mechanics I know to be trustworthy in Melbourne, so directing her somewhere nearer to her is also not something I can do.

Hence I have directed her here, to aulro, to people who know more about these engines or perhaps to find a forum member in a position to assist her by being closer to Bendoc than Gilderoy is. :D

[12voltinnovations]

Mate, If I could, I would but the vehicle in question is 8 hours away from where I am. It's difficult to contact Laura at the best of times and the information I have is basically what's been posted here already.
I only have contacts for mechanics I know to be trustworthy in Melbourne, so directing her somewhere nearer to her is also not something I can do.

Hence I have directed her here, to aulro, to people who know more about these engines or perhaps to find a forum member in a position to assist her by being closer to Bendoc than Gilderoy is. :D

Good answer:clap2:

[bobslandies]

Hi Laura,

Walter is an old school Land Rover and general mechanic at Polo Flat. Not sure if he does later models but you could ring him - it's closer than Canberra.

Walter Cavinato & Son
23 Utah Circuit Crt, Cooma NSW 2630 ‎
(02) 6452 4860

Bob

[flyinglandrover]

Brian at Merlin Motors in Orbost is not a Landrover specialist but he replaced the motor in my D1 (V8). He would be able to check it over and give an opinion. He would be one of the better mechanics in your area!

42 Stanley St Orbost VIC 3888
(03) 5154 1909