Lucas Wiper Motor Repair/Restore?

[cjc_td5]

Len, my S1 86" has a Lucas wiper motor mounted on the windscreen frame which I need to get going again. Were they standard fitment, factory option or aftermarket fitted by an owner?

I have had it apart but cannot get it going without major surgery. Does anyone know of somewhere in Australia that repairs/reconditions/exchanges these motors?

If not, looks like I may have to pay ~$300 for a new one from the UK, unless anyone has any other options?

Thanks,

[JDNSW]

The requirement for major surgery is not usual.

These are the standard wiper motor for Series Landrovers up 1967, although there are a few variations (rivet counters may note which one is the right one, but they are all interchangeable). You may find a non-original new one of Asian origin a bit cheaper, or a good second hand one. However, while there are probably places that will repair it, if it needs more than a clean/ repack with grease and new brushes, it will almost certainly cost more than the $300 quoted for a new one.

John

[incisor]

there is a particular guy on ebay that sells restored ones for about 90 pound

i will try and get his info

there are many others on there doing similar but not as good as this guy normally does. you need to be very careful as some have mild steel shafts that rust in a day..

you can send yours over and he will rebuild them as well from memory

i got one from him and it is excellent...

[Bigbjorn]

Len, my S1 86" has a Lucas wiper motor mounted on the windscreen frame which I need to get going again. Were they standard fitment, factory option or aftermarket fitted by an owner?

I have had it apart but cannot get it going without major surgery. Does anyone know of somewhere in Australia that repairs/reconditions/exchanges these motors?

If not, looks like I may have to pay ~$300 for a new one from the UK, unless anyone has any other options?

Thanks,

Have you tried Kev. Baker at KB Classic Parts? Kev. is THE Lucas man and can be found a 2 Margaret St. Witta 4221 (near Maleny), 07 5494 4221.

[gromit]

The other option is to visit a boat chandlers (or look online). Similar motors are used on boat windscreen wipers.
Problem is that boat parts probably won't be cheap either....


Colin

[mfc]

mine was buggered to ,gears slipping and shorting in motor do a google site re lucas wiper rebuild...there was a very helpful site {not landy related iirc} if I find it ill put the link up

[gromit]

Wiper Motor Restoration « evilJames's Series 2 Rebuild (http://www.eviljames.com/LandRover/?p=101)


Colin

[incisor]

FYI

if you have links like this

there is a links section of AULRO that allows you to file them and share them.

http://www.aulro.com/links/

please feel free to add them so the directory gets utilised more.

PS

there is also a files area to store files such as manuals etc you have found and want to share.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/local_links.php

[mfc]

Wiper Motor Restoration « evilJames's Series 2 Rebuild (http://www.eviljames.com/LandRover/?p=101)


Colin

that's the one I used

ps check ebay and gumtree someone had 4 or 5 parts motors for a cheep price but wouldent split the lot..
what is youre paint colour? I like it a lot,standard ?
and who knows what belongs on the screw shaft next to the switch?
regards mark

[cjc_td5]

Thanks everybody for your replies. I'm not being a cheapskate, I'm happy to spend money where required and was aware that buying a new one would possibly be cheaper than having mine professionally reconditioned.

It seems from the link that Gromit posted that I should dismantle it to get to the gearbox to see if the problem lies there. Can't be any harm in that if I do damage something, I'll just replace it....:)



...what is youre paint colour? I like it a lot,standard ?...


The colour is standard, as confirmed during a full stripdown. I'm having a bit of spurt of inspiration to get this car finished. I'll have to dig out my old "Len" thread a update it with my recent purchases and hard labour.:D

Cheers,

[cjc_td5]

IT LIVES! :D :D :D

With a bit of insight from Gromit's link, I attacked the wiper motor tonight, uncovering the reduction gearset which was locked solid through bad grease. Then methodically used a multi-meter to follow through the electical side to find a break in the circuit. Eventually found the culprit in the crimped fitting right at the terminal block where the power enters the unit. Carefully uncrimp it, some new wire, resolder it back together and IT LIVES!

I'll have to find what type of grease it needs in the gearbox, then I can put the rest of it back together.

I had looked at the wiper motor disparingly since starting the restoration, thinking that it was likely too far gone, sitting up there on the screen exposed to the elements as it is. Its great that it lives again and has a bit more service left in it yet. That's what I enjoy about these vehicles, just about anything can be fixed with a bit of patience and a few simple tools.

As an aside, I had the same luck with the horn. For the life of me it looked dead, but with a disassemble, clean, a bit of time working out how it was supposed to work, and a few adjustments, it started up again. I didn't think my luck would hold again for the wiper motor...:D

I take a couple of pics when I'm next having some shed time.

Cheers,

[incisor]

IT LIVES!
I'll have to find what type of grease it needs in the gearbox, then I can put the rest of it back together.

i have used the blue boat trailer wheel bearing grease and it lasted 5 years plus so far.

[mfc]

i have used the blue boat trailer wheel bearing grease and it lasted 5 years plus so far.

me to....so its good to know it lasts

[wrinklearthur]

---- uncovering the reduction gearset which was locked solid through bad grease.
----------- I'll have to find what type of grease it needs in the gearbox, then I can put the rest of it back together.

When I do my wiper motor up, I will be trying a high temperature water proof wheel bearing grease, the type that is made for boat trailer bearings with disc brakes.
.

[gromit]

When I do my wiper motor up, I will be trying a high temperature water proof wheel bearing grease, the type that is made for boat trailer bearings with disc brakes.
.

Arthur,
Why does it need to be 'waterproof' grease if the wiper motor is inside the windscreen, do you have your windscreen on the wrong way round ? :D

On a more serious note.....somewhere I have some grease used in power tool gearboxes (I used to work for Festo). Probably worth checking out what's recommended for use in a power tool gearbox because it's a similar setup to the wiper gearbox.

Colin

[wrinklearthur]

Arthur,
Why does it need to be 'waterproof' grease if the wiper motor is inside the windscreen, do you have your windscreen on the wrong way round ?

Its all to do with the angle of the windscreen glass, when the glass is reflecting the clouds, the twiddly bit is pointing opposite direction to the way rain drops come down.
:D
.

[incisor]

the rain on the pane can cause much pain when it leaks down the shaft and into the gearbox as there isnt much in the way of sealing in place :p

water and normal grease tends to make a mud that hardens up in next to no time.

new ones of these help a bit as well

Land Rover Series Wiper Motor Seal - x2 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/190810673208)

not cheap tho.

[chazza]

new ones of these help a bit as well

Land Rover Series Wiper Motor Seal - x2 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/190810673208)

not cheap tho.

Do they work? Do they last? Will they kark it in a darkened shed?

Can anyone vouch for the quality? I have wasted my money on too many rubber parts, that haven't lasted 5 minutes!

[isuzutoo-eh]

I used white silicon fishing reel grease in mine :)

[JDNSW]

IT LIVES! :D :D :D

With a bit of insight from Gromit's link, I attacked the wiper motor tonight, uncovering the reduction gearset which was locked solid through bad grease. Then methodically used a multi-meter to follow through the electical side to find a break in the circuit. Eventually found the culprit in the crimped fitting right at the terminal block where the power enters the unit. Carefully uncrimp it, some new wire, resolder it back together and IT LIVES!

I'll have to find what type of grease it needs in the gearbox, then I can put the rest of it back together.

I had looked at the wiper motor disparingly since starting the restoration, thinking that it was likely too far gone, sitting up there on the screen exposed to the elements as it is. Its great that it lives again and has a bit more service left in it yet. That's what I enjoy about these vehicles, just about anything can be fixed with a bit of patience and a few simple tools.

As an aside, I had the same luck with the horn. For the life of me it looked dead, but with a disassemble, clean, a bit of time working out how it was supposed to work, and a few adjustments, it started up again. I didn't think my luck would hold again for the wiper motor...:D

I take a couple of pics when I'm next having some shed time.

Cheers,

Glad to hear you managed it - as I thought when I wrote my first post in this thread, it turned out to be easily fixable! (although I did not perhaps put it as clearly as I might have)

John

[gromit]

Loos like the grease we use for assembling pneumatic cylinders is suitable.

Plastic lubrication : Carl Bechem GmbH - Lubricants (http://www.bechem.de/en/44,104,kunststoffschmierstoffe/index.html)

Mainly for plastic against plastic or plastic against steel but water resistant, suitable for low temperature, resists oxidation.

I'm sure a lot of different greases will work but this is 'free'.


Colin

[incisor]

Do they work? Do they last? Will they kark it in a darkened shed?

Can anyone vouch for the quality? I have wasted my money on too many rubber parts, that haven't lasted 5 minutes!

i have one in place that is still working after 12 months or so...

just ordered 2 more the other day after seeing that one was still going well

no darkened shed, just a carport and out in the weather for mine...