D3 V6 vs V8 vs TDV6

[GyroLandy]

I'm looking at buying a Disco 3 for the wide. It would need to be able to do some offroading seeing as we like touring i.e. Fraser island, probably head North etc but for the real tough 4x4 tracks I'll use my Defender.


I have now found 2 disco's which look exactly the same inside and out but teeh one has a 2.7 TDV6 (2008 with 105,000km) and the other the 4L V6 (2006 with 88,000 km).

Which one shoud I take? I've heard the fuel economy on the TDV6 is better (although haven't spoken to someone who owns one so don't know if figures are accurate) but some say the Diesel is very slow and underpowered for the big body.

How is the torque of the V6 petrol from a 4x4 perspective?

Then off course there is the V8 but that seems to be very heavy on fuel.

Please help, I need to make a decision today!

[theresanothersteve]

We have the diesel, wife averages 9.5 to 10 litres per 100 kmh. Uses to tow 21/2 tonne of horse and float (doesn't get as good economy towing of course) and is very happy.

Power is not an issue, keeps up with traffic, tows well, and cruises comfortably at the speed limit with enough left to overtake.

She claims its the best car she's driven, very quiet and relaxing.:cool:

[sheerluck]

There's been a few threads on here recently in a similar vein. Have a quick search and you will find them, as there was one only a few weeks ago.

The gist of them though, is that the TDV6 is best from a economy point of view, though servicing cost is slightly higher, but the V8 in real world driving was more economical in some circumstances than the V6.

[Dougal]

The petrol V6 is the one with no real reason to exist. It's fuel consumption rivals the V8, but it's power and torque don't.

I haven't driven a TDV6 D3, but I have driven the TDV6 Territory (same 2.7L engine) and the 3.0 TDV6 Rangie sport.
None of them could be described as slow or underpowered. The 2.7 V6 has more go than any of the older v8's.

[Rich84]

I have a 2008 RRS TDV6. It isn't underpowered - it's a very torquey engine. If you're thinking it's going to be like a Toyota D4D or Mitsu's 3.2 forget it, it's miles ahead. Smoother, quieter, more powerful and more economical. Overtaking performance is acceptable. It's only slow if you compared it to say a performance car. Most people are surprised that I had a stage 3 Audi S4 twin turbo before this and yes it's slow compared to that. But nothing could beat that in a straight line anyway!

Fuel economy on the highway will get into the 8's. Personally I live in the Adelaide Hills and commute 90km per day down to the city and back. 50km of this is open road (30km being freeway) and 40k is Adelaide traffic. Not as bad as most of the other capitals, but still slow going. For this I would normally achieve 10-10.5L/100km. Generally I drive with a relatively heavy right foot and my car is wearing 20's, so I'd expect the figure to drop by about 1L/100km if I tried hard enough and put 18's on (as they're lighter).

[PeterOZ]

have had a D3 with a TDV6 since Aug of 2007 and love it, fuel economy is very good. Around town mid 10s, highway cycle it gets down to mid 7s.

Last tankful was up the range to Toowoomba, down through Lockyer Valley with lots of hills down through Beaudesert then city/highway mix.

I got 850km with about 1/8th of a tank of fuel left.

It is not a bank donk powerwise for the capacity, rivals a small V8 and have blown a few V6 Comodore drivers away more then once.

If you can afford the addtional price then a low Km D4 with the 3.0 TDV6 might be the way to go.

Would love to trade my D3 in on a new D4 but my CFO waggles her manicured finger and goes uu ohhhh LOL [bigwhistle]

I would go with the TDV6 diesel if it was my decision to make. Oh and they are VERY smooth, you won't realise it is a diesel.

Best of luck.
cheers
Peter

[disco2_dan]

Now I'm only going off what I've read on this website, but the v8 actually gets better economy then the petrol v6, not to mention a bucket load more power, but personally I would be looking at the tdv6 and getting it flash tuned and the make over 500nm and give it a big kick in the back side

[gghaggis]

Which one shoud I take? I've heard the fuel economy on the TDV6 is better (although haven't spoken to someone who owns one so don't know if figures are accurate) but some say the Diesel is very slow and underpowered for the big body.


:Rolling::Rolling: "Some" don't know what they're talking about!

Cheers,

Gordon

[GlennS]

GyroLandy,
In October last year I traded my D2 for a 2009 D3 TDV6 SE with low klm's. I still have permagrin, the 2.7 has plenty of power, rides and handles well, is so quiet you forget it's a diesel. I can't praise these cars enough. Hope my biased opinion helps.

[the_preacher1973]

I've heard the fuel economy on the TDV6 is better (although haven't spoken to someone who owns one so don't know if figures are accurate) but some say the Diesel is very slow and underpowered for the big body.



We test drove all 3 engines. My wife commented that the diesel engine was the best and the "fastest". This is because the way she drives (half throttle at most, not holding onto the revs too long) the better torque of the diesel makes it feel stronger.

We ended up going with the V8 (approx $14k cheaper for same k's second hand) but you really need to get under it and stay uinder it for it to really go (sounds awesome doing it though.)

Bottom line, in daily traffic and overtaking on the highway, no way could the TDV6 be considered slow.

[PerthDisco]

TDV6 after last trip back from up north after 800km.
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Best of all for my friends who own Toyos with D4Ds is how their cars sound like a milk truck and the Disco is silent by comparison.

I did the trip around Steep Point last year with my mate in his L322 RR with the 3.0 litre BMW diesel. That is even worse for noise. It is deafening to listen to it drive by and has less power by a fair margin. We both took filled up before leaving Denham and took an additional 20 litre jerry can. We drove in each other's tracks for 2 days. I refilled the TDV6 for 35 litres while he took nearly 55 litres to refill.

I am also impressed by how well it overtakes from 110-130 and I have seen it push easily to 150kmh after passing a long row of caravans.

Everyone says chip it, just like everyone says change the base stereo but I find both to be very good just out of the box!

Magic piece of kit.

[GyroLandy]

Thx Everyone.

I went with the TDV6. Felt the price was ok although feel a bit robbed in the trade-in value. Must say overall positive experience although I feel slightly violated after negotiating price with a tag team of sales reps.

What was funny is when I originally asked the sales guy to put me in a Diesel after driving the V6 I commented on the responsiveness of the "Diesel". He was praising the new Diesel engines. When we got out I had to point out that he had in fact put me in another V6.

[TerryO]

You won't regret it the TDV6 is a excellent engine and makes the D3 a pleasure to drive.

Congrats on the new purchase.

[disco2_dan]

Congratulations on your purchase! I'm looking at a similar purchase in the next 6 months, and I want to get the hse disco 3 tdv6, well I want the disco 4 but my finances won't allow that sort of a purchase unless D4's drop drastically by that time lol then I'm going to weekend warrior my d2 v8

[PeterOZ]

Thx Everyone.

I went with the TDV6. Felt the price was ok although feel a bit robbed in the trade-in value. Must say overall positive experience although I feel slightly violated after negotiating price with a tag team of sales reps.

What was funny is when I originally asked the sales guy to put me in a Diesel after driving the V6 I commented on the responsiveness of the "Diesel". He was praising the new Diesel engines. When we got out I had to point out that he had in fact put me in another V6.


oh they love to play that tag team game. I refuse to play. ?My standard response is if you can't make a price decision then get me somebody in here NOW who can or I am walking out. The sales manager will very quickly appear.

[Nickxb]

I recently purchased a D3 TDV6 and so far I love it. I am getting about 12.1 L/100km.

[PeterOZ]

I recently purchased a D3 TDV6 and so far I love it. I am getting about 12.1 L/100km.


12.1 ??? :eek:

under 9 on mine

mind you I don't thrash it.

[coolum]

I read this forum for months before buying a V8HSE from the 4 sale on the forum (off Stevo - via his brother).
I have not been dissappointed ... quite the opposite (but I haven't been appointed). The D3 is a great car ... the V8 is a very smooth engine and thuogh thirstier than the TDV6 there are other things to consider..
Things I sought and confirmed my decision were the costs of the diesel longer term.
I believe it would be different if you were bying new car but in the second hand market there are maintenance issues to be considered. Its not just about Fuel consumption $/per mile.
You have to consider costs of items like the Timing belt (substancial cost = which is a lot of fuel when considering the differnce in mpg) against not needed in the V8 but perhaps is needed in the ford V6 petrol .Also the diesel pump and the fact that there seemed to be a number of diesels that have had rebuild before their time .. especially when you consider that they usually last twice the expected km's for a Petrol.. the V8 purrs along.
Coming off the highway the other day a passenger was heard to say .'its like comming in to land'.
truly.... pretty much says it all .
Keep reading the forum but don't ignore the hidden costs.
happy hunting.

[Nickxb]

12.1 ??? :eek:

under 9 on mine

mind you I don't thrash it.

I seem to do lots of small trips each day. I think it will get better after doing some longers ones.

[PeterOZ]

They do like a long run

[discotwinturbo]

They do like a long run

And so will the driver.

Brett....

[sniegy]

I'm looking at buying a Disco 3 for the wide!

Hmm maybe you don't have to buy one now !

TDV6 is always an offroader/tourers choice. I have one & it is brilliant.
V8 is my second pick.
V6 personally I would look at the V8 again. ;-)

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[scarry]

have had a D3 with a TDV6 since Aug of 2007 and love it, fuel economy is very good. Around town mid 10s, highway cycle it gets down to mid 7s.

Last tankful was up the range to Toowoomba, down through Lockyer Valley with lots of hills down through Beaudesert then city/highway mix.

I got 850km with about 1/8th of a tank of fuel left.



I certainly can get nowhere near that sort of mileage in the D4 TDV6.

There must be something different between the D4 TDV6 and the D3TDV6.

If you can get better than 680k's from a tank in the D4,you are doing very well.

And looking at other posts on here,others seem to be getting similar mileage from the d4 TDV6.

Strange.

[Rich84]

I certainly can get nowhere near that sort of mileage in the D4 TDV6.

There must be something different between the D4 TDV6 and the D3TDV6.

If you can get better than 680k's from a tank in the D4,you are doing very well.

And looking at other posts on here,others seem to be getting similar mileage from the d4 TDV6.

Strange.

Is that the 2.7 or the 3.0? I get a little annoyed if I don't get 800km out of a tank... That's Adelaide hills driving and up and down the freeway mainly, whatever that can be compared to. I get more like 900km on the open road.

[scarry]

Is that the 2.7 or the 3.0? I get a little annoyed if I don't get 800km out of a tank... That's Adelaide hills driving and up and down the freeway mainly, whatever that can be compared to. I get more like 900km on the open road.

800k's,i wish i could get near that.......,900 on the open road,i am flat out getting 700k on the open road.

It is the 2.7,the 3.l is generally known as the SDV6.

Annoys me as the D2 was a lot better,and had a larger fuel tank.

I also checked mine with the OEM tyres and was no better than with the A/T's.

[discotwinturbo]

My SDV6 is now sitting at an average of 15lp100 based on 33000.

I do a lot of towing.....and a lot of highway too.

I do have a lot of gear so extra weight, but overall I find the economy disappointing. But when I compare it to my neighbours 200 TdV8....I am still in front on economy.

Brett.....

[Steve223]

but some say the Diesel is very slow and underpowered for the big body.

Please help, I need to make a decision today!

I have a 2 x 2005 TDV6 one S for the bush and one HSE. The S is fully loaded with Rear Bar, Bull Bar, drawer system, second fuel tank and sometimes tows the CT on top and with the Davis Performance remap I'm still happy with the performance, HSE has no moods but REMAP and it flies (for a 4x4).

The bush car uses on average around 13l though I never managed the supposed 10.5l in either car to be honest.

In my eyes they are definitely not underpowered I would go with the Diesel.

Cheers

Steve

[sheerluck]

........ HSE has no moods......

That's good. Nothing worse than a stroppy car. :D