Help! new w7 install on new hd

[jx2mad]

I am trying to install W7 (full version cd) onto a new hard drive. It is now asking for drivers to be installed. What drivers, how do I get them, and how can I install them on a new system that is not connected to the internet, assuming that somehow I can get them from there? Jim

[loanrangie]

I've installed win7 to numerous pc's and never been asked for drivers and none were to connected to the net during the install, generally only XP that asks for SATA/SCSCI drivers .

[jx2mad]

I find it strange because I too have done this previously without it asking for installation drivers. Jim

[Dandevries]

Can you just skip the driver install and hope for the best? You can always update the drivers post-install

Do you have any exotic hardware installed?

[Eevo]

are you using a cd usb drive at all?

[sheerluck]

I am trying to install W7 (full version cd) onto a new hard drive. It is now asking for drivers to be installed. What drivers, how do I get them, and how can I install them on a new system that is not connected to the internet, assuming that somehow I can get them from there? Jim

Jim, what exactly are you installing onto? Desktop? Laptop? Tablet?

Make, model and a few more specifics will be helpful. Along with the reason for the install and the methodology, clean install, upgrade, downgrade from W8?

[jx2mad]

Asa reply I have an old pc which lost its hard drive and I am replacing that. I am trying to install W7 from a genuine installation disc, full version. I can get to the point where it is asking for a driver to install W7, and I can not go any further. There are no drivers on the installation cd. Jim

[Eevo]

are you using a cd usb drive at all?

if you are, depending on how old the pc is, make sure the cd drive is plugged intoa usb2 port, not a usb3 port.

having it plugged into usb3 will cause the problem you describe.

[jx2mad]

Nothing has changed internally except my removing the old hard drive and connecting a new one. I had a computer tech here some weeks ago and he couldnt get a new drive to work. Says that the bios can't find it which is a surprise as the new drive is backward looking. It is a 500M sata drive and I wonder if the tech has stuffed the bios, of which I know nothing. Jim

[Eevo]

Nothing has changed internally except my removing the old hard drive and connecting a new one. I had a computer tech here some weeks ago and he couldnt get a new drive to work. Says that the bios can't find it which is a surprise as the new drive is backward looking. It is a 500M sata drive and I wonder if the tech has stuffed the bios, of which I know nothing. Jim

ah, that explains much more!

if the bios cant find the drive, windows wont be able to find the drive and you wont be able to install window on the drive.

you will need to work out why the bios cant see the drive.
make sure the drive is powered, and try change sata ports.
different sata cable wont hurt either just in case its the cable

what happened to the old drive? if the bios couldnt see it, maybe a faulty sata port

[jx2mad]

I have 2 sata ports and have tried both with separate cables to no avail. It would be good to see what the bios should be set to. Jim

[Eevo]

I have 2 sata ports and have tried both with separate cables to no avail. It would be good to see what the bios should be set to. Jim

with sata you dont really set the bios. its all plug and plug in my experience.
i would be putting to hdd into another computer to see if the hdd is faulty

[jx2mad]

The computer had a sata series 1 installed by me after the old drive stopped. This was 3-4 years ago and it worked fine. I remember buying the hdd and sata cable and plugging it in and installing the operating system onto it without problems. The tech tried to fit a new 1tb sata drive and said it was a series 3 sata drive and my bios was too old to recognise it. I went to my computer shop and bought a 500m sata drive last week. I explained the problem and the shop tech said I should not have a problem installing it as it would be accepted by older machines. And that is where I am stuck. It seems my mother board which is an Athlon AMD 64 can't see the new HDD

[sheerluck]

with sata you dont really set the bios. its all plug and plug in my experience.
i would be putting to hdd into another computer to see if the hdd is faulty

Some boards had the option to set the SATA ports as a RAID configuration, in which case a driver was needed, particularly if it's not a recent board. In most cases, any OS after XP had the drivers built in, but not all cases.

[Eevo]

Some boards had the option to set the SATA ports as a RAID configuration, in which case a driver was needed, particularly if it's not a recent board. In most cases, any OS after XP had the drivers built in, but not all cases.

yes but the OP isnt talking about RAID array setup.

[sheerluck]

yes but the OP isnt talking about RAID array setup.

Yes, but if the SATA function had accidentally been set to RAID, then that could be a reason.

[Eevo]

Yes, but if the SATA function had accidentally been set to RAID, then that could be a reason.

the OP said he didnt know the bios so i dont think he had changed it, but it is a possibility.

[mikehzz]

If it's an old PC then there may be no drivers for the MB chipset on the install disk and the generic ones mightn't work on it either. That would mean no USB and no network so it makes it hard to get the drivers from anywhere. I've had that happen before.

[sheerluck]

the OP said he didnt know the bios so i dont think he had changed it, but it is a possibility.

And said he'd had a tech there, presumably much more likely to delve into the BIOS.

There was a generation of boards that if you tried to use the RAID function it would only load the relevant driver from a floppy. That was back in the XP days, but if the machine is of that era, it's possible that W7 has the same issue.

It's really all conjecture without sitting there in front of the machine, knowing the components, and having a test rig.

[jx2mad]

In the bios there is a listing called sata raid and this is selected but there is no individual choice. Jim

[jx2mad]

O.K. I have just changed bios to fail safe settings and the computer still cannot see the new HDD. I think I will give up if no further suggestions forthcoming. Jim :(:(:(:(:(:(

[sheerluck]

In the bios there is a listing called sata raid and this is selected but there is no individual choice. Jim

Jim, if you go to that SATA RAID option, what are the individual choices there?

Setting the BIOS to fail safe is normally around performance options, such as over clocking the CPU or memory.

[jx2mad]

The only sata raid option is a joint one. I cannot differentiate

[Hall]

From my own experiance with old boards. If the board was made before windows seven or vista the bios may need to be flashed to a later version for it to accept the later operating systems. If you board has Via chipsets it could be a problem as well as Via chip sets are not on later boards as they are not made any more. ( Pretty sure ). So windows seven does not have VIa chip set drivers preloaded. I recently had to ditch a motherboard for this reason. So if your board is a old one from the days of XP then it will be most likely time to go the whole hog and get another board. But that could aslo be a whole lot of other bits as well.
Cheers Hall

[jx2mad]

Thank all. I think it is time to pension it off. I have bought a replacement anyway. Hoping I could resurrect this as a spare. Jim

[loanrangie]

Stick an ide hdd it and install winblows, once installed add the sata hdd and then use updates to load the drivers. Download a cloning program from the hdd manufacturer website ( Seagate disward/seatools or WD equivalent ) then set the sata hdd as your primary boot drive.
Let it reboot and do its stuff and bobs your drag queen aunty.

[jx2mad]

Thanks I will give that a try. Or go and buy a new ide drive from the computer market. Jim

[Eevo]

Stick an ide hdd it and install winblows, once installed add the sata hdd and then use updates to load the drivers. Download a cloning program from the hdd manufacturer website ( Seagate disward/seatools or WD equivalent ) then set the sata hdd as your primary boot drive.
Let it reboot and do its stuff and bobs your drag queen aunty.

lol, overkill

[Hall]

So you had windows seven on the old dead hard drive or are you upgrading ?
Cheers Hall

[loanrangie]

lol, overkill

Well if the bios wont let it install and this way works not overkill at all and will take less time that what he has spent already.

[jx2mad]

OK So I gave up on the old one because my new W8 PC spat the dummy last night and I had to reinstall all my stuff less the data which I lost. WHY? Because the system restore program stu**ed up and fouled the whole computer. I tried restoring it to a setting 2 weeks ago and it didn't like it. I don't know why but it stopped in the middle. Computer tried to auto fix problem but to no avail and only option was to use the recovery system and reinstall W8. Oh well at least I was able to save money by fixing it myself for once.

[theresanothersteve]

...that's why I create a system image after I've got a new machine set-up with the 'must have' software...