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Runnadude
18th April 2013, 06:16 PM
Hi guys. We've installed the LLAMS in my 05 D3 HSE tonight, with resulting suspension errors. after rechecking all connections, the one closest to the rear of the car wasn't seated properly. Hallelujah, the car decided to wake up and act normally after it was seated. The issue we now face is with calibration. Following the calibration instructions has the switch LED doing the right things, but the car does not change height.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated :)

Graeme
18th April 2013, 06:45 PM
If the module LED is alternating between green and off then no calibrations have been stored so do the process again in case a point in the instructions was overlooked, such as selecting off-road height before switching LLAMS from LOW to HIGH. You can PM me with your phone number if you like and we can have a chat.

~Rich~
18th April 2013, 06:55 PM
Beat me too it Graeme. ;)

It can be a bit confussing but follow the steps carefully and you should be fine.

I don't know if you have already downloaded these instructions but just in case:
https://www.box.com/s/46ezof3vcgc9zvo2i9do

Graeme
18th April 2013, 07:02 PM
For the benefit of others, the red button is not used to start the calibration process.

Runnadude
18th April 2013, 07:07 PM
My bad. I thought that shiny red button was used to start the calibration process. It was just sitting there tempting me. ;) Thanks for your help Graeme.

Graeme
18th April 2013, 08:13 PM
:BigThumb:

Runnadude
18th April 2013, 08:24 PM
This thing is awesome! Will highway driving at -20 (or even -35) upset tyre wear?

Graeme
18th April 2013, 09:18 PM
Someone had their wheel alignment checked at -20mm having just had an alignment at normal height and reported that the change was negligible. -35mm might be a different story though and anyway, even at -20mm my D4 has insufficient travel to ride the bumps smoothly on country backroads. -35mm was requested for Range Rovers in Germany on their smooth roads.

ADMIRAL
18th April 2013, 09:33 PM
This thing is awesome! Will highway driving at -20 (or even -35) upset tyre wear?
I have had my D4 on an aligner, and with the std settings available, access, normal and off road, the variations are great enough to cause excessive tyre wear. IMO, if you intend to drive on bitumen for long distances at a particular setting, get it aligned at that setting.

discotwinturbo
18th April 2013, 09:40 PM
I had mine aligned at normal then had the tyre place recheck at -20 (which is where I drive it) and the difference was negligible, and within the factory spec.

At + 30 though, it was falling just outside of factory spec, and + 50 saw enough out of factory spec to reduce life by half.....on bitumen.

My tyres are wearing nicely.

I do have a suspension fault come up if I let it idle a few minutes with car facing up hill. Happens same spot. Turn off and on and all good. Does not happen at any other time.

Brett....

Graeme
19th April 2013, 05:22 AM
I do have a suspension fault come up if I let it idle a few minutes with car facing up hill. Happens same spot. Turn off and on and all good. Does not happen at any other time.That's a strange one! A fault code reader would be handy.

discotwinturbo
19th April 2013, 09:12 AM
That's a strange one! A fault code reader would be handy.

It's no big deal Graeme.....

Very happy with LLAMS.

Brett....

101RRS
19th April 2013, 09:49 AM
This thing is awesome! Will highway driving at -20 (or even -35) upset tyre wear?

I have had LLAMs for about 2 years now and use it offroad and onroad without any faults or issues. I drive around town at -20 and have not detected any abnormal tyre wear. When driving long distances on the highway or gravel roads I bump it up to normal onroad height as the ride is just a bit smoother and the car is able to take potholes at higher speed at onroad height vs -20.

Garry

Graeme
19th April 2013, 11:11 AM
It's no big deal Graeme.....Suspension faults should not occur in this simple situation whether its caused by LLams or not. I see it as an early warning of something that could become a bigger problem if not corrected, such as a failing height sensor. I suggest the Llams loom be removed to see if the fault still occurs.

discotwinturbo
19th April 2013, 03:20 PM
Suspension faults should not occur in this simple situation whether its caused by LLams or not. I see it as an early warning of something that could become a bigger problem if not corrected, such as a failing height sensor. I suggest the Llams loom be removed to see if the fault still occurs.

Thanks Graeme.....will give that a try.

Brett....

discojools
19th April 2013, 03:44 PM
What's the advantage of driving round town at -20?

discotwinturbo
19th April 2013, 03:58 PM
What's the advantage of driving round town at -20?

Instant readout at 100kph on fuel is almost 1 litre less per 100.

Around town...probably no benefit.

Brett.....

Runnadude
19th April 2013, 04:25 PM
It looks like I'll be driving at -20 for around town and the major highways and standard height for the back roads around here :)

discotwinturbo
19th April 2013, 05:57 PM
It looks like I'll be driving at -20 for around town and the major highways and standard height for the back roads around here :)

It is a touch lumpy at -20 but ok on A roads.

Have put it down to access height at 80kph and -20......could not press the button up fast enough. Was not a nice feeling. Very lumpy.

B roads for me, normal height is better, and sometimes +30 is better again.

Brett....

Graeme
19th April 2013, 06:12 PM
-20 mm provides good handling for sweeping freeway intersections especially for Discos with D3 ARBs and shocks and not so wide 245 tyres.

101RRS
19th April 2013, 08:17 PM
The other advantage is that you do not have to go down to access height to get in and out saving the air compressor - the blokes may no lower to get in and out but I bet the missus does.

Garry

gedaso
21st April 2013, 07:57 AM
My daily commute to work is a 100 km trip on the freeway, almost all of it on cruise control. I did a test last year where I ran at -20mm for a week and recorded fuel consumption . I couldn't detect any noticeable reduction.

The ride was however a bit too firm for my liking so I returned to normal height.