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flathead steve
28th April 2013, 10:26 AM
Just getting started and am curious what is MAX width with stock heights and 16's I don't want them catching on anything but terra-firma any advice greatly appreciated :D
wayneg
28th April 2013, 12:34 PM
There are a few threads with lots of info. 265 75 16 seems to be the general largest size you can get away with without mods. With that size if it drops to the bump stops the rears will rub very badly so dont go there unless you have a backup plan, ie eas bypass or some wooden blocks.
Pete38
28th April 2013, 01:21 PM
Yep I second that Wayne. One of those threads I started so look through my profile to find it. 265/75/16 means no front mud flaps and as Wayne said, precautions if you pop a bag. Keep in mind some tyres have a slightly different tread shape and slight diameter differences well.
JCV
28th April 2013, 02:38 PM
Yep I second that Wayne. One of those threads I started so look through my profile to find it. 265/75/16 means no front mud flaps and as Wayne said, precautions if you pop a bag. Keep in mind some tyres have a slightly different tread shape and slight diameter differences well.
I can "third" that. I have just fitted 265/75/16 and have had to remove the front mud flap, and even trim a bit off the inner plastic guard. The muddies I got seem to be higher than other 265/75/16's.
The rears fit just fine forward and rear of the tyre, however you may have to lock to the standard ride height, because the tyres may rub the top of the inner rear guard when cornering at highway height - mine did.
The look is great though... :cool:
mtb_gary
28th April 2013, 02:45 PM
I've got the 265/75/16 maxxis Bighorns and even with the 2" lift I found that there was some minor rubbing on the front mud flaps. Now that they are removed no more rubbing. After all the moulded RR flans did bugger all to stop the mud flying ;).
Gary
flathead steve
28th April 2013, 05:20 PM
Thank you all gent's. I've been working thru the issues with the EAS now waiting for new height sensors [so I don't have to buy another compressor in 12 months ] do you think if I gave it another inch all round in wading when I re-cal and lose the front M/Flaps I could get away with it or is there not enough travel left ? [stock bag's all round] Any advice will be greatly appreciated.:D
mtb_gary
28th April 2013, 05:33 PM
Steve
With the stock bags I think you'll end up with very little articulation. The guys that have got the bigger tyres have got the Arnott Gen3's which can be re calibrated for the bit of extra height. Then there are a few of us who have the Gen 3's plus a 2" lift kit.
The other option is to do away with the air suspension and castrate the car by fitting coils.
Personally I prefer the air suspension ;)
Gary
wayneg
28th April 2013, 05:34 PM
You can quite happily raise the heights by an inch or so above stock with no issues. I would even suggest it was good idea with bigger rubber just for the overall look of the car.
Keithy P38
28th April 2013, 05:35 PM
Another inch on stock bags makes it quite rigid, I'd get a set of Arnotts Gen III bags before doing that. 'Tis what I have done.
flathead steve
28th April 2013, 08:06 PM
Thank's again I have a bit to think about I might go a bit narrower then I wont chew out the inner liners and wont lose that magical hovercraft ride by jacking it up . I'll have to do some more work on the reno's before the finance minister will let me at GEN III's and lift kit :D [Both cars and house Renovator's delight ! ] :D
Keithy P38
28th April 2013, 08:26 PM
Yeah it's not a cheap hobby!
You will get away from that rubbing effect by going a 255/70 tyre. Mine do in the rear (only very slightly), but that's because my bump stops are an inch shorter than standard and only under max articulation. Not even enough to notice in cab, and I can drive around on the bump stops without rubbing (ask me how I know!!)
flathead steve
29th April 2013, 06:06 PM
Looks COOL but I thought my teeth were gunna fall out when mine hit the bump stops .
Keithy P38
29th April 2013, 07:18 PM
You're not wrong! I drove nearly 1,000km (one thousand) on the bump stops! And 60km of that was Low Range First gear... You think highway is bad on the bump stops, try doing serious 4wding or corrugations on them... Brings a new meaning to the term "giving birth"!
mtb_gary
29th April 2013, 07:53 PM
You're not wrong! I drove nearly 1,000km (one thousand) on the bump stops! And 60km of that was Low Range First gear... You think highway is bad on the bump stops, try doing serious 4wding or corrugations on them... Brings a new meaning to the term "giving birth"!
Keith
I can almost feel the bumps just reading about it! Not the most pleasant memory of a p38 :(
Gary
mtb_gary
1st May 2013, 08:19 PM
I've got the 265/75/16 maxxis Bighorns and even with the 2" lift I found that there was some minor rubbing on the front mud flaps. Now that they are removed no more rubbing. After all the moulded RR flans did bugger all to stop the mud flying ;).
Gary
The mud flaps are back on the car, clearance is minimal at around 5 mm, but they are on and they don't rub on the Big horns. The trick was some bending of the bracket on the inner guard.
Gary
DANMAL
3rd May 2013, 09:45 PM
I run 265 75 16 km2 and it doesn't rub at all, the only occasional rub is in highway mode, going up a driveway a bit quicker than you should..
Keithy P38
3rd May 2013, 10:22 PM
They look tall for a 32" tyre danmal!
You lifted your Rangie?
davidsonsm
3rd May 2013, 10:38 PM
The run about wheels are 265/65/18 or 803mm dia. Hacked a little off the front mudguards, raised top 3 eas settings 25mm each and added 25mm to bump stops to prevent abrupt stops on highway just in case it ****s itself and collapses at 100km/h. All good apart from that. Therefore will be buying 265/75/16 ,muddies for the steel rims. Any bigger would surely need bodywork trimming.
DANMAL
4th May 2013, 04:35 PM
They look tall for a 32" tyre danmal!
You lifted your Rangie?
Nah all standard just played with eas a bit to make a bit higher, although when eas heights were untouched, I still didn't get rubbing unless the owner before me played with them..
flathead steve
21st October 2013, 07:22 PM
Still struggling with the typing it take's a long time .
I put bridgestone 265/75/16's Dueler's on worked great my
first trip away . Melb - Simpson Desert return they just touch
the middle of the front flap's at full lock has got better with the more
km's on them not been an issue
whisky_mac
24th October 2013, 08:23 AM
I am up for new tyres on a standard 4.0 96 RR. Am running Duellers at the moment because they were the best buy in Derby in 2010 when we came of the Gibb. Have done 55 on them and getting low. Was thinking of going from the 235/70/16 to 245/70/16 in the BF Goodrich TA/Ko.
Anyone gone down that route.
Keithy P38
24th October 2013, 08:44 AM
They won't rub! Pretty much the same rolling diameter as standard.
finallyrangie
24th October 2013, 09:39 AM
I was wondering whether 245/75 R16 would be a good compromise, could you get away without bodywork issues with them, opens up a lot of options for muddies if you are that way inclined.
Keithy P38
25th October 2013, 09:16 AM
I run 245/75's on our Dmax (km2's), if I can be bothered next week ill chuck them on the Rangie and have a squiz.
flathead steve
25th October 2013, 06:44 PM
I took a punt and went 265/75/16s dueller A/T 5,000 ks new koni,s
and no rubbing handle's and ride's grouse did set a few faults off but
the EAS buddy fixed that I think the new shock's held it up so high at the front it was going out of range and then throwing the fault's they seem to have settled abit and it's all good.
All though some time's I think the car is possessed.:twisted:
benji
27th October 2013, 07:27 AM
If you drive around on access do you get any rubbing on the rear (no pun intended)...
Keithy P38
27th October 2013, 07:39 AM
I don't on 255/70's, only under full flex do the rears rub (and only lightly).
I put it down to soft bump stops.
265's I can't comment on, and the 245/75's will be a project for next weekend if I get the chance.
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