Early No. 5 Trailer

[Aaron IIA]

I have just purchased a No. 5 trailer. All No. 5 trailers that I have seen so far have two small glass direction indicator lights and one large combination stop tail light. The trailer that I bought has two small glass direction indicator lamps and two small glass combination stop tail lights. Does anybody know when the change over occurred? I have also observed that some No. 5 trailers have a fixture allowing stowage of the hoodbow on the starboard gunwale. Is this indicative of a production period?

Aaron.

[BreakingBad]

I purchased a no.5 from the recent auctions.
Mine was built 1985. It has one combination stop/tail light.
It also has the brackets to hold the hoodbow. I hadn't really thought about what the brackets were for but after you mentioned it.

What year make is yours?

[Lotz-A-Landies]

The two small Lucas 488 lamps were the later configuration, common on Workshop trailers. Although in later years they often went back to the large stop tail. Sometimes they even used hella replacements and even later the use of the large rectangular combination lamp similar to the lamps on Perenties.

There is a copy of the later RPS for the No5 trailers in the files section of the REMLR website. Lights are in section GB at the end of the document. http://remlr.com/documents/RPS/No.5%20Old.pdf

[Aaron IIA]

I do not know what year my trailer was made, hence the reason for my questions.
The light system that my trailer has is not depicted in that document.

Aaron.

[LandroverScott]

G'day Aaron,

your trailer will have a chassis number on it, sometimes on the back cross member just to the right of the rear towing point, or front cross member on the left (sometimes under the tub!), if you find it under all the coats of paint go to the REMLR website and search trailer registrations and you may find it there and this will give you the Army registration number and year of manufacture.
The bulk of the trailer were made by Maribrynong ordinance factory during the mid 60's.

Cheers
Scott

[weeds]

I have just purchased a No. 5 trailer. All No. 5 trailers that I have seen so far have two small glass direction indicator lights and one large combination stop tail light. The trailer that I bought has two small glass direction indicator lamps and two small glass combination stop tail lights. Does anybody know when the change over occurred? I have also observed that some No. 5 trailers have a fixture allowing stowage of the hoodbow on the starboard gunwale. Is this indicative of a production period?

Aaron.

Pretty sure they all had the canopy bow brackets......I always remember them being a PITA when loading and unloading the trailer.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I do not know what year my trailer was made, hence the reason for my questions.
The light system that my trailer has is not depicted in that document.

Aaron.Hi Aaron

I found that out when the file eventually downloaded on my machine. What it shows is the later modifications when the L488 lamps and lenses were no longer available in Aus. There are now people doing reproductions of the lamps including the L488 L531.

What you need is the RPS from around 1972. Yes I have asked for it.

The L488 amber single contact is the fitting for the blinkers http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproduct.asp'sg=1&pgCode=010&sgName=Electrical&pgName=Lighting&agCode=0040&agName=Side+and+Flasher+Lamps&pCode=L488/B
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/04/15.jpg

L488 double contact red for side and stop. http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproduct.asp'sg=1&pgCode=010&sgName=Electrical&pgName=Lighting&agCode=0042&agName=Rear+Lamps&pCode=L488/D
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/04/16.jpg

Be careful a lot of reproductions use plastic lenses while originals are glass, Try Anthony Pearson in Adelaide to see if you can get originals. http://www.classicandvintagebulbs.com/

Scottish John has the Lucas map light used for the number plate lamp. http://myworld.ebay.com.au/johnparker.sc&ssPageName=STRK:MEFSX:SELLERID&_trksid=p3984.m1543.l2533

Diana

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Found a hard copy RPS (1990). Self explanitory.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/04/9.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/04/10.jpg

BTW the originals were all made by Government Ordnance Factory Maribyrnong Vic (Australian Defence Industries according to the RTA) however in the 1980s/90s new contracts were let to other often small scale manufacturers. Some of these trailers actually have a VIN rather than a chassis number.

The number for mine was actually on the tub.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/04/11.jpg

[303gunner]

I purchased a no.5 from the recent auctions.
Mine was built 1985.
What year make is yours?
What ARN is yours? The Army No5 trailers weren't produced that late. I don't know where the inspection place dreamed that date up (because there is no compliance plate or other date stamped anywhere on the trailer), but it appears to be the date they've written on the Blue Slips for the trailers at auction. There were some "No5 copy" trailers built for the RAAF in the 80's but they have alloy bodies and commercial wheel hubs and axles (and sit lower).

Go to The Registry of Ex Military Land Rovers. Australia, New Zealand and elsewhere. (http://www.remlr.com/) then go to Registration Numbers>Trailer registration numbers. Your auction listing will record the original Army Registration number, like 101-xxx, 154-xxx or 173-xxx, etc. Look up that number on REMLR and you will find the ACTUAL build date of your trailer, Most were built in the mid to late 60's.

[UncleHo]

G'day Aaron11A

Those round Lucas 488 type lights are available in Australia from a vintage vehicle enthusiast, PM me for further info

cheers

[incisor]

just give kev baker a call on (07) 5494 4221

he will mail them out or you can go see him at witta ...

[BreakingBad]

What ARN is yours? The Army No5 trailers weren't produced that late. I don't know where the inspection place dreamed that date up (because there is no compliance plate or other date stamped anywhere on the trailer), but it appears to be the date they've written on the Blue Slips for the trailers at auction. There were some "No5 copy" trailers built for the RAAF in the 80's but they have alloy bodies and commercial wheel hubs and axles (and sit lower).

Go to The Registry of Ex Military Land Rovers. Australia, New Zealand and elsewhere. (http://www.remlr.com/) then go to Registration Numbers>Trailer registration numbers. Your auction listing will record the original Army Registration number, like 101-xxx, 154-xxx or 173-xxx, etc. Look up that number on REMLR and you will find the ACTUAL build date of your trailer, Most were built in the mid to late 60's.

I found it on REMLR and you're right, it was built in 1966. Mine's in fantastic condition considering its age.

[UncleHo]

Most we're built in 66 for service in South Vietnam by the Ordinance Factory Maribyrnong.

[chang]

Sorry to threadjack if it is but seemed fitting to post here. In regards to the REMLR listings, my No.5 is not on it. How do i find out its history like other members have?

Edit- I have found it but would like to know its history

[UncleHo]

G'day Chang.

Getting the history of individual vehicles and trailers is something that REMLR is unable to do,as the information is unavailable, all that is shown is that all vehicles etc. were sold off through Army Disposals Unit, and after a long and hard search by some dedicated members the Chassis numbers were correlated with the ARN's this I know, as I am a founding member of REMLR.


We are not as fortunate as the British Ex-Military folk whose vehicles have plates affixed to them giving the Type,Brand,Contract No,Chassis No,and its Military Registration Number,this Number stays with the vehicle forever,so,when it is sold out people know it and can apply to get it's record,in Australia, when the ARN Plates are removed there is no way to trace it,unless you have bought the vehicle at auction,or have bought one from a dealer which bought at auction,or it has it's old ARN written/painted or paperwork left in it,the current vehicles often have their ARN marked on them somewhere,I have a friend who has just bought a Perentie in Brisbane which had it's old number painted on the front guard,and also it's log book,BUT,that is very rare,took a little wheelin/dealin and got lucky,but no unit/service history.


Sometimes there is a possability that a vehicle may show up in an "in service photo" which shows it's unit at that point in time.


cheers

[LieutenantRover]

The two trailers I bought 154 403 and 33495 were built 1971 and 1981 respectively but on the rego papers say 1985. This is because AFM put all trailers as 1985 build when they put the vin on them.