swapping manual to auto

[disco_goose]

Question for the knowlegable!!
How easy is it to swap a manual for an auto transmission in a td5 discovery 2?? And secondly...a ball park figure to achieve this??
Goose.

[Disco Muppet]

Not a job to be done after a few beers in old mates shed with some bricks and half a repco tool kit, but you know that ;) :p
Have a search for monkiefone (spelling?) who did it, but it's quite a task.

[sheerluck]

Not something to be approached lightly. You need to change the whole wiring loom, the ECU, the radiator just to start with.

Cheapest way would be to buy a written off auto and make one good one from the 2.

[Disco Muppet]

to buy a written off auto and make one good one from the 2.

Honestly if I was going to hand over the dosh for an auto into manual, I'd want to make sure it was a bloody perfect ZF going in, which would make me hesitant about getting one from a write-off, unless it was tested and found to be flawless.

OP, I've briefly considered doing it when my auto eventually dies.
I stopped counting at 6, by my very rough estimates.

[sheerluck]

DM, I said cheapest, but not necessarily the best!

If you're wanting the best of everything, then it will quickly become uneconomical, and you may just as well sell up and buy a good auto.

[Disco Muppet]

DM, I said cheapest, but not necessarily the best!

If you're wanting the best of everything, then it will quickly become uneconomical, and you may just as well sell up and buy a good auto.

True, but if you've put in lots of effort into setting up your vehicle exactly the way you want it, right down to the little things then for the sake of a gearbox I certainly wouldn't swap.
But, that's certainly one way to do it.
From memory you can get a reco'd ZF and TC from Ashcrofts for something like a smidge over 3k landed. That's not chump change, but it's not stupidly expensive either. If you're handy on the spanners then that helps.
It all comes down to how much of the folding stuff you're prepared to hand over.
And lets face it, if you can afford to and it makes you happy, why not :D

[sheerluck]

.......It all comes down to how much of the folding stuff you're prepared to hand over.
And lets face it, if you can afford to and it makes you happy, why not :D

There comes a point where the wallet must overrule the heart though. Spending $15k to achieve something that already exists out there for $5k is fine so long as you understand that the extra $10k is something that your bank account will never see again.

Otherwise you'll end like up like that fool who has been trying to sell his cryogenically frozen Rangie for 3 years. :D

[OffTrack]

It's big and potentially very expensive job. You'd need at very least the following:

- ZF Auto
- Bell housing
- Flywheel/ring gear
- Drive plate
- Torque Convertor
- Auto cooler pipework
- Auto cooler
- Autobox ECU
- Autobox wiring loom
- Auto Td5 ECU
- Transmission tunnel top plate
- Auto shifter
- Main wiring harness (basically all wiring behind dash)
- Pedal box assembly
- alter BCU and SLABS settings to reflect change from Manual to Auto.

As sheerluck suggests buying a wrecked auto td5 d2 as a donor vehicle is likely to be the only realistic way to do the swap.

cheers
Paul

[Disco Muppet]

There comes a point where the wallet must overrule the heart though. Spending $15k to achieve something that already exists out there for $5k is fine so long as you understand that the extra $10k is something that your bank account will never see again.

:huh:
Are you sure you own a landrover..... :p




Otherwise you'll end like up like that fool who has been trying to sell his cryogenically frozen Rangie for 3 years. :D

Watch out, He'll have his lawyers come after you :lol2:

Like I said, it all depends on how much you can spend, and how much you're willing to spend.
Different for all of us :)

[OffTrack]

Came across a post from 2010 in which someone had TRS in Adelaide do an Auto -> Manual swap in a Td5. The job cost $7000 with a labour component of $1500. Going Manual -> Auto is likely to cost a fair bit more than that as Disco Muppets $6K+ estimate on parts alone would indicate.

[Disco Muppet]

Exactly.
Manual to auto is far simpler, as you're removing a whole heap of components.
Auto to manual would require way more parts, and much more work done to install them.
Higher parts costs and higher labour costs.
Here's Monkiefone's post on the job.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery-2/148902-auto-conversion.html

[sheerluck]

:huh:
Are you sure you own a landrover..... :p

Guilty. Especially seeing as if the D3 rebuild didn't work out, I was going to do the TDV6 conversion on the D1!




Like I said, it all depends on how much you can spend, and how much you're willing to spend.
Different for all of us :)

Can't argue with that! The world would be a strange place if we were all the same. :D

[sheerluck]

Came across a post from 2010 in which someone had TRS in Adelaide do an Auto -> Manual swap in a Td5. The job cost $7000 with a labour component of $1500. Going Manual -> Auto is likely to cost a fair bit more than that as Disco Muppets $6K+ estimate on parts alone would indicate.

If you are handy on the spanners, and are willing to take the chance on a buying wrecked auto, then you should be able to the bill down quite low, breaking the other D2 for parts, and selling off any bits you don't need.

There will be some parts that you'd be better off buying new rather than s/h.

[disco_goose]

Thanks guys. SWMBO was suggesting it as we are thinking of heading off round oz and she isnt that confident driving a stick shift and towing a camper trailer. But i think i have managed to talk her round....hopefully!!!
Thanks againg guys
goose:)

[George130]

Still will take a lot of work and $$$ but it would be cheaper / easier to not put the D2 Auto but the D1 Auto as it is valve bod controlled so no need for the ECU.

My Defender has the D2 box converted back to Valve control. Cost them a bomb to do as it is totally custom. Cost me a bomb in repair work to.

[d2dave]

If you were to fit a D1 auto into a D2 how would you connect the kick down cable, as the D2 is drive by wire there is no accelerator linkage to connect to?

[rovertech]

Hi
Could anyone please assist with info to convert an auto ecu to work in a defender (clutch switch functioning)?
Thanks
Nicky

[sierrafery]

Hi, i presume you saw this: Differences between Manual and Auto Td5 ECU's (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery-2-a/169913-differences-between-manual-auto-td5-ecus.html) , just be aware that adding the clutch switch hardware is not enough, a remap is needed too as to suit the defender as the auto ECU is certainly for D2 otherwise all kind of fault codes will be stored, IMO better get a proper ECU and sell the other.