How long does it take your EU3 TD5 to warm up?

[PhilipA]

I just relocated my Digital temp gauge to the thermostat housing and I think it is probably pretty accurate as the ambient temp seems OK in the morning.

The gauge tells me that the engine takes about 5Km to reach about 80C , and the gauge stays between 80-88 all the time. Ambient this morning and recently about 15-18C.
I am used to a conventional thermostat on my old 3.9 and it would be at 86-88C after about 1.5Km.
Does the long warm up time mean that my thermostat is not closing fully? or is it normal for the engine to show a cool temp at the top hose outlet with the incredibly complex hose system on a TD5?
I know diesels don't make much heat while just plodding along but it seems unusual.
Regards Philip A

[Yorkie]

sounds about right, mine does not warm up any quicker.
petrols do warm up quicker generally.

[gavinwibrow]

x2 about 5 km

[OffTrack]

I think it's pretty much the same for the EU2 and EU3 motors. It took about 15 minutes of puddling along in traffic with 10°C ambient this morning before the engine got up to normal operating temp.

Before the thermostat opens coolant still flows out of the top outlet and through the heater and the radiator bypass down to the coolant rail.

cheers
Paul

[Jason789]

My 99 D2 TD5 takes about 3 km before the car temp guage shows that the engine is warm(about 60deg C, TM2 reading). From 60, up to 92deg C(92 is the normal running temp of the motor) could take up to 30 km before the head to comes up to temperature.

The sensor(TM2) is mounted on the rear left hand side of the head on one of the unused bolt holes.

The tacho rarely makes it above 2500rpm and EGT's are mostly kept below 500deg C. I get bloody good fuel economy though(830km+ city driving before the fuel light comes on).

Cheers,

Jason

[turps]

My TD5 also takes ages to warm up. If I am leaving home in the morning. I can probably drive nearly 10km in light urban traffic (50-60km/h zones) before the temp gets to 90c. I am using a temp sender in the top radiator hose. With an Madman EMS 2 gauge.
If I am going out on to the HWY. 3km of 60km/h then another 3km of working upto 100km/h will get the temp up faster. But these cold mornings the auto is holding onto 3rd for longer.

The factory gauge barely moves till it gets to 70-75c. Then it rises quickly to the middle. Where it dosent move till over 118c atleast.

I wish there was a way to have a fast idle switch or similar to try and get more heat into. As leather seats on a cold car are bloody cold on the bum.

[gavinwibrow]

Put sheepskins in - you will never look back (nor will you have a cold back for long!!)

[worane]

My 99 D2 td5 takes about 5 kms. to get up to 80 deg and seldom goes over 90c. in the summer. I drive at 100 kms on country roads to get these timings.
X2 on the sheepskins. Cost a packet ($540) but are made to measure and I love them to bits.

[northiam]

My TD5 also takes its time warming up but the heated seats warm very fast :D

[d@rk51d3]

Dad's D2a TD5 takes 3-5km to warm up properly.
Sounds about right to me.

[frostyblue]

My dash gauge shows half way after aout 5 klm, hits 1/4 gauge about 2 klm, tm4 shows after 10 klm its only on about 50 deg , after approx 15 klm its up to 73 approx which is roughly the temp of the box also, mine has never reached past 82 deg and usually sits on 81 daylight sunny weather, nighttime max about 73,

Cheers

Ken

[justfishing]

Dad's D2a TD5 takes 3-5km to warm up properly.
Sounds about right to me.

Mine as well 3-5 km
Ian

[turps]

Put sheepskins in - you will never look back (nor will you have a cold back for long!!)
I like them on lovely bucket seats like whats in LC 80series. But the Disco seats are now where near deep enough to put seat covers on.
Plus I can barely see under the sunvisors now. Let alone lifting my butt any higher.


My TD5 also takes its time warming up but the heated seats warm very fast :D
Your so off my Christmas card list for bragging like that. I actually looked into fitting the heater elements to my seats.

My BA falcon used to have heat coming out within 2km's on a nice -2 morning.

[gavinwibrow]

[QUOTE=turps;1908355]I like them on lovely bucket seats like whats in LC 80series. But the Disco seats are now where near deep enough to put seat covers on.
Plus I can barely see under the sunvisors now. Let alone lifting my butt any higher.

If you are not tongue in cheek, try the cheaper = thinner sheepskins from supercheap etc - then you might still see out of the windscreen. They last about 2 years of heavy use before looking so grotty/partially worn that you have to replace them (or reverse/swap sides with them, or only install one of the pair for the driver to get 8 years service)

[Franrick]

I have a Jeep Cherokee 4l petrol that is at operating temp within 1.5 km but my TD5 takes a full 3 to 5 km to do the same.

I'm not complaining, just love the car.

Cheers, Rick.

[northiam]

Probably explains why some northern hemisphere D2 Td5s have in-dash diesel fuel burner heaters for cabin heat

[turps]

If you are not tongue in cheek, try the cheaper = thinner sheepskins from supercheap etc - then you might still see out of the windscreen. They last about 2 years of heavy use before looking so grotty/partially worn that you have to replace them (or reverse/swap sides with them, or only install one of the pair for the driver to get 8 years service)

Nah I am being serious. OR maybe just fussy. My previous 4wd had Recaros so great deep supportive seats.
Also I brought it because of the leather. No way am I going hide them.

[ramblingboy42]

my td5 takes ages to warm up. or to show on the guages.....its just had complete...I mean complete cooling system overhaul.....the viscous fan was cactus so is fixed now.....
as for lambswool seat covers I have very thick ones, theyre the ducks guts.....when dirty.....they get filthy...theyre white.....just take them off and wash them in cuddly or similar woolwash product

[bidds]

As leather seats on a cold car are bloody cold on the bum.

Hey Turps - If you're seats are electrically operated, they more than likely have the heating elements in them already - you can check by looking for a pair of unused plugs behind your window switches. I found a couple of web shops in the USA selling seat heater switch kits. I bought a kit last year - two genuine switches and a new genuine switch panel. Pop out old panel, plug in switches, fit new panel. Dead easy and they work very nicely indeed.

cheers, bidds

[turps]

Bidds.
There leather but manual. I wish they where electric. I have been casually looking for some black electric seats though. As I would like to able to make them a fraction lower. And it would give me heaters.
I did find heater elements about 3mtgs ago. I might go price them again.