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weeds
7th May 2013, 03:13 PM
can somebody point me in the right direction.......buggered if i can find where it is hidden on the Queensland transport website.....

for a project at work i need to know what the max. load a quad axle trailer can take.........we need to squeeze every kg we into the shipping containers that will be forked onto them

we have weigh bridges so no problem with over loading, i could ask the contractor we use but i would like to research myself

there must be a link which explains it all??

if all goes to plan i need to buy 6-8 trailers, 150 half height 20' shipping containers and two 35T forklifts

i believe i also have the option of using s dolly to increase the payload of the trailer/container to 32T....which means i will need bigger forklifts

Killer
7th May 2013, 03:24 PM
Have a look at this page from the Australian Transport Commission, up to 50 tonnes combination weight.

http://www.ntc.gov.au/filemedia/bulletins/Moving_heavy_loads_safely_and_ef.pdf

Cheers, Mick.

Lotz-A-Landies
7th May 2013, 03:30 PM
Hi Kelvin

Despite looking I too am unable to find the QT information, however I believe that the National Heavy Vehicle Regulator now has a single national responsibility for mass and dimension limits so the NSW equivalent may be of use.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/heavyvehicles/downloads/heavyveh-mass0706.pdf

Diana

Redback
7th May 2013, 04:25 PM
This might be what your looking for Kelvin.

http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/busind/Heavyvehicles/guidepermits/MassLimitsForVehiclesQld.pdf

Baz.

weeds
7th May 2013, 04:40 PM
Awesome......I spent an hour today and didn't find any of those links

I will have a good look at them tomorrow at work

Cheers

alien
7th May 2013, 05:07 PM
Down here in Victoria the truck needs to be registered for mass managment.
This puts it onto your contractor.
It is a truck with a set trailer regos' are on the pemit.

I drive a tipper with a quad trailer at mass managment.
There's alot in it but below may give you an idea of whats involved.
I need 1 general access permit to go 50.5ton(truck 23.5, quad, 27), @33.3ton payload.
I then need another for mass managment to 57.5ton(truck23.5, quad 34), @40.3ton payload.
When at 57.5 I need to use approved B double routes.
I can't cross any timber bridges either.
Any council roads need to be approved and a permit for them carried also.
The pemits stipulates axle spaceings, weights, tyres, hights, lengths.

There are some people carting off the warfs down here in 3 axle semi's on mass managment for heavy boxs.
They go from 42.5ton to 45.5 for a newer truck.

I've been pulled up a few times by the enforcers of these laws on the road.
They don't all know the system.
I grossed 56.8 on one load and he wanted to book me as "overloaded " from 42.5.
Each axle was within it gross and it took 10 mins of explaining the permits to them:eek:

No idea of the Queensland system but your carrier may.

alien
9th May 2013, 07:33 PM
Hows this project going?
These may be of help...

Excess mass (Department of Transport and Main Roads) (http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/business-industry/Heavy-vehicles/Excess-mass-and-dimensions/Excess-mass.aspx)

http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/busind/Heavyvehicles/guidepermits/Pdf_f11_hvg_guideline_excess_mass_v5.pdf

Modelsp
9th May 2013, 08:28 PM
Mr Weeds
look up the N.H.V.A.S.( Nation Heavy Vehicle Accreditation Scheme) as it's all unified now(Australia wide) this is the place for you to be looking.
they will set you on the right track with all that you need.
And believe me there is a bluddy lot of paper work if you have more than one truck.
i had 28 years in the industry and got out 3yrs ago,they tell me you now spend 40% of your time filling out paperwork and books.
to go to extra heavy weights you'll also need Mass management and maintainance management,(more paper work)also required is onboard tracking that is viewable by the local roads authority(C track) or similar.if you are using Subbies with your trailers they have to have it for the PM's as well.
thats all 3 yrs old now and it's more cover your a----ss now than ever.
i hope you have a contract that can spare 15>>20%of nett on compliance & regulation.
hopes this helps if only a little
THE VERY BEST OF GOOD LUCK IN YOUR VENTURE
Paul

V8Ian
9th May 2013, 09:07 PM
First thing you'll need to know is the tare of the truck. Feel free to PM me for any help.

bigcarle
11th May 2013, 02:27 PM
my 2 bobs worth is,
i did 12 years driving and a further 8 years in a container park for the same company and this is what i remember.
firstly with 20ft containers the usual Maximum gross weight (SWL) is 24 ton with an occasional 30 ton one in the mix, check the CSC plate located on the door of the container. i have not seen half heights for a bl**dy long while now, last i knew they where used for was bulk mineral sand and bulk cement.
as far as truck gross is concerned my info is from 1990's where a semi was raised from 38t to 42t gross and the 'B' doubles to 69t........that is with what they called "conforming axle groups" i.e; a tri axle set that conformed was good for 20t (been a few years so not sure if this is right), so you ad up each set of axles to get the gross and subtract the Tare to get payload.
the company i worked for had 27ft bogie skels (trailers) and we could go AFAIR 36t and have a tare of 8t for the Acco 3070 and 3.6t for the skel so we could get a 24t full container on them, legally. with a 30 gross container you might need a 40ft tri

weeds
11th May 2013, 04:42 PM
Thanks all......

It appears I can load tri axle skel trailers up to 32T which means we may get 29T of product into the container. Thats 4T/container than we planned and when each trip will have 56 onboard that's an extra 425T.......I will now need to check with the guys designing the boat that it can accommodate the load.