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Boofrmb
12th May 2013, 01:23 PM
Hi.
Just a quick question. Im thinking about upgrading from my 2006 D3. So my question, is the new D4 been corrected in respect to the wheel alignment. with the d3, almost every service, I was informed that the unit required a alignment, I was informed this was required due to the fault in the D3.
Hope the D4 has been improve, if not, may have to look at the new VW.
Cheers
Robert
chuck
12th May 2013, 01:32 PM
Robert
I never had to get a wheel alignment in my D3 and that had all sorts of tyres on it 19, 18 & 17 from stock thru to MTR's & MTZ's.
Never had any uneven wear patterns & got good mileage out of them all.
That was MY 09 D3 with Llams & went off road.
D4 is at 23,000 km & does not need wheel alignment.
WhiteD3
12th May 2013, 01:44 PM
Robert,
I learned early on with the D3 that a wheel alignment and more importantly, a tyre rotation was a must do each service if I didn't want to scrub out the sides of the tyres. I've heard nothing to say the D4 is any different and after 50k I'm looking for new tyres due to the uneven wear on the front tyres.
AnD3rew
12th May 2013, 02:08 PM
Had my D3 for 4 years now and have never had a wheel alignment, on second set of tyres, first set lasted 50k and wore very evenly second set is pretty new but nit showing any signs of scrubbing.
~Rich~
12th May 2013, 04:13 PM
Ditto with my 05 D3, best vehicle I've ever had for even tyre wear.
CSBrisie
12th May 2013, 05:23 PM
Likewise with my 06 D3 - no issues in 90k's i had it; and no issues with D4 at 45k's.
Boofrmb
12th May 2013, 06:16 PM
[Thanks All.
So mine must have been built on friday, or finished on monday, or even better, a land rover dealer trying to make a great deal lol.
Robert
discotwinturbo
12th May 2013, 08:26 PM
I have always had tyres rotated and balanced every 10000.
In every case the alignment has been slightly out (on all vehicles)....I always watch it get done. The alignment error I cannot feel.
Those that say they don't need a wheel alignment....how do you know without putting it on an aligner ? I don't think 50000 is special.
I always get very high mileage from tyres.
Brett....
Boofrmb
12th May 2013, 08:43 PM
Hi Brett..
I do agree, that a alignment is required on all 4x4, but my 2006 D3 (now 7 1/2 yrs old), with only 43000km on the clock would require an alignment every 6 months from the dealer.
Robert
~Rich~
12th May 2013, 08:56 PM
Where do you live Robert?
Perhaps others who live close to you could recommend an alternative wheel alignment business.
Be aware though the suspension should be set to "Tight Tolerance Mode" for the alignment.
MadJax
12th May 2013, 09:01 PM
My D4 has done 15,000kms on a set of Cooper AT3's. When I went in to get the wheels rotated and an alignment check at 10,000km the guys said I did not need to have the alignment done.
When the car gets serviced (every 6 months) they do not do the alignment. It is not a dealer, but a Land Rover Specialist. So maybe you are being taken for a ride.
TerryO
13th May 2013, 12:24 AM
I have had mine checked several times and each time no adjustments were required.
Under and or over inflation can cause uneven wear on tyres.
Boofrmb
13th May 2013, 06:45 AM
Live in Inverell, northern nsw, but car has always been service in Anne st in Brisbane.
Robert
Barryp
13th May 2013, 08:11 AM
Terry O
Driving style can also do odd things with tyre wear!
Regards
Barryp
DiscoWeb
13th May 2013, 08:50 AM
Robert,
Like others I have not had any major issues with alignment or tire wear.
I have had both the alignment and balance check a few time but my current set have around 55,000 -60,000 km on them with still a reasonable amount left.
I have noticed sometimes, especially after a hard off road trip that shoulders can start to feather or wear differently so I just book in a rotation/balance and alignment. Generally you can feel a bit of a shudder through the wheel when something is not right.
Might be worth trying a different tire place and one that is a specialists in Land Rovers and D3/D4's.
George
time2
13th May 2013, 10:37 AM
Live in Inverell, northern nsw, but car has always been service in Anne st in Brisbane.
Robert
Hi Robert
The dealer you're visiting has a wheel alignment/brake efficiency diagnostic tool they charge ~$50 for each service. It checks your alignment and brake biases. It's not compulsory but they will include it as standard on the job when you book in. They use it for all makes serviced on the site. You have every right to decline that part of the service is an optional extra.
I would only have them do it if you had concerns about your tyre wear.
AnD3rew
1st June 2013, 07:01 PM
I have always had tyres rotated and balanced every 10000.
In every case the alignment has been slightly out (on all vehicles)....I always watch it get done. The alignment error I cannot feel.
Those that say they don't need a wheel alignment....how do you know without putting it on an aligner ? I don't think 50000 is special.
I always get very high mileage from tyres.
Brett....
50000 may not be special, but they wore out evenly, so my assumption would be that it is more likely the tyres and not the alignment that were the factor in the mileage achieved.
If you can't feel the alignment issues and it isn't showing up as uneven wear then even if it exists itis essentially irrelevant.
camel_landy
2nd June 2013, 04:00 AM
Just a quick question. Im thinking about upgrading from my 2006 D3. So my question, is the new D4 been corrected in respect to the wheel alignment. with the d3, almost every service, I was informed that the unit required a alignment, I was informed this was required due to the fault in the D3.
Hope the D4 has been improve, if not, may have to look at the new VW.
They can be sensitive but I wouldn't call it a 'Fault'...
M
Graeme
2nd June 2013, 06:14 AM
The 'fault' is more in the vein of the excessive alignment specification tolerances that can contribute to excessive tyre wear. Keeping close to the ideal settings makes a huge difference.
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