One year of D2 Ownership

[Rok_Dr]

Time flies and it’s been almost a year and 10,000km since I bought Charlie, a 2003 Td5 D2a. So I thought I would write up the first year of ownership going through the mechanical ups and downs, modifications undertaken and some plans for the future. Overall I’m a very happy camper. Love the TD5, it tows better than my old soft dash classic with half the fuel consumption and much quieter on the highway!

Except for a set of accessory floor mats and compass interior mirror he was a totally bog standard 7 seat, S model. With 141,000km when purchased, there was enough service history to support the Ks and demonstrate he had been regularly maintained. He had a few minor cosmetic blemishes and evidence of a bit of panel work at the rear. This was subsequently found to be a corner parking ding, so nothing major.

As to be expected, with a Disco of this age, a number of the usual midlife mechanical issues had/were to appear. Luckily for me most had been attended to by the previous owner or by the dealer, as part of the deal or under warranty. So:


Front drive shaft, front passenger window regulator and LT spec Cooper AT3 tyres, all replaced by the previous owner in the year before trade-in.
New headlining, ECU loom, fuel pressure regulator, some minor cosmetic panel work and a second hand front bumper with no cracks, were all done by the dealer for sale or as part of the deal.
Horn buttons, ABS shuttle valve overhaul and driver’s window regulator were done under the statutory warranty at no charge to me :)
MAF sensor, Drivers door lock, the usual collection of blown clock and HVAC back light globes and a few miscellaneous panel and trim clips at my cost.
As a preventative measure the turbo intercooler hoses were also replaced during the first service.

So on to trim, bling and mods which to date are fairly restrained:


Brass Diff Plugs(recommended by my mechanic)
Aircond drain extensions.
Enginesaver low coolant alarm (AULRO forum shop)
ARB side steps (ARB new) to keep the kids happy ;)
Genuine Land Rover dog guard to keep the family hound where he belongs… in the cargo bay (local supplier).
NAS spec console cup holders. Great for holding the mobile phone and hand held UHF! (local supplier)
Upper rear brake light protectors (UK)
Rhino roof bars(Gumtree)
Exmoore trim canvas seat covers (from UK) and matching Melville and Moon dicky seat covers (local through the AULRO markets).
Rubber boot floor mat (club swap meet)
Dash mat (local spare parts shop)
Leather gaiters for the hand brake and transfer lever, to replace worn vinyl originals (ebay).
Leather centre console lid cover, dyed to match the Alpaca trim (both ebay)
Leather steering wheel wrap to cover sun damaged wheel (ebay)
Homemade Jarrah timber dash strip (Bunnings). Most elegant. See earlier posts.
AULRO Forum window sticker and membership:thumbsup:

I also bought a suspension plip which till Anzac day I considered a waste of money…. But then it saved the day hooking up to the van on a steep slope. So not essential but….

One essential accessory which I recommend to all D2 owners is a Nanocom or similar diagnostic tool. Mine has paid for itself in diagnosing problems and clearing fault codes. Also the support of the AULRO Forum and members has been an incredibly valuable in understanding how to use it effectively.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Future Plans

Mechanically I will be up for an XYZ switch in the medium term, as I don’t always see N lighting up in the dash board cluster and occasionally also loose D, plus I’ve had a couple of visits of the M and S lights. The mechanic diagnosed it last week but considered it not an immediate repair issue. Otherwise touch wood nothing else is misbehaving.

Next though will be a visit to the auto sparky to get a new generation trailer brake controller fitted along with 12v wiring to the rear for the van battery.

I’m also getting tempted by an ARB bull bar, with tie rod and front diff protectors. Ditto a steel rear bumper. I have a set of front recovery points but I am holding off fitting them ATM as there will be a bit of plastic cutting required. A pair of Trutracs or Ashcroft ATB’s is also enticing but in reality I don’t do enough extreme off road driving to justify the cost.

I’m not contemplating any ECU mods. Charlie has enough power and I like not having to drive to an EGT gauge. Ditto suspension lifts as I won’t be able to fit in the garage and after 30 years off-roading I’ve never done any panel damage, except to mud flaps and rear bumpers.

I also have a few ideas in the timber trim department which if they work will look a lot classier than the faux timber bling kits, think Jarrah and understated elegance.... Muppet and Offtrack’s recent banter on the issue has inspired me.

Cheers

Steve

[Disco Muppet]

Muppet and Offtrack’s recent banter on the issue has inspired me.

You mean OffTrack being mean to me about how nice his wood panels are? :p :dbcry:

I too, have just ticked over a year of D2 ownership.
What a year.
New oil cooler and lines
SS Lift
ARB Bar
Tigerz winch
Philco Recovery points
245/75 scorpions
Lightforce lights
GME UHF
Seat covers
Dual battery system
Rubber mats
Countless smeared greasy fingerprints, skinned knuckles, curses, vowed death threats towards Land Rover engineers.
1 year of plodding along in a Td5, what a life :cool:

[bob10]

You mean OffTrack being mean to me about how nice his wood panels are? :p :dbcry:

I too, have just ticked over a year of D2 ownership.
What a year.
New oil cooler and lines
SS Lift
ARB Bar
Tigerz winch
Philco Recovery points
245/75 scorpions
Lightforce lights
GME UHF
Seat covers
Dual battery system
Rubber mats
Countless smeared greasy fingerprints, skinned knuckles, curses, vowed death threats towards Land Rover engineers.
1 year of plodding along in a Td5, what a life :cool:
How do you rate the Tigerz winch? Have you taken it apart to check the greasing? Just curious. Bob

[Disco Muppet]

How do you rate the Tigerz winch? Have you taken it apart to check the greasing? Just curious. Bob

Bob, If I could go back I wouldn't have bought it.
Haven't pulled it apart yet, but it would have been much better value for money if I'd gotten a good TJM one from my Local OL, would only have been about $100 more for a better winch.
I've only used it under load once, and that was spooling the wire on.
If it does the job then fair enough, but if I start going remote I'll replace it with something better.

[gavinwibrow]

I paid top dollar for a good history D2aTD5 auto classic in late 2011, reckoning I could not justify an extra $20K for a T###ta. In the next 12 months I then spent $40K labour and parts on extras (excluding ins, reg etc), although $15K of that was for a replacement engine. So the super account is looking a bit sick.
And all that for a possible sale price now of $15K?

[Disco Muppet]

I paid top dollar for a good history D2aTD5 auto classic in late 2011, reckoning I could not justify an extra $20K for a T###ta. In the next 12 months I then spent $40K labour and parts on extras (excluding ins, reg etc), although $15K of that was for a replacement engine. So the super account is looking a bit sick.
And all that for a possible sale price now of $15K?

Hmmm....
I got mine for 12.
Spent at least 9 on parts
Not including labour costs, service costs, insurance, fuel....
Do I regret it?
Nah :p

[Rok_Dr]

Don't sell yourself short Gavin. My insurance is due and agreed value has plummeted to high $16k. Has a chat with my mechanic who said that for my vehicle, market price was in the range of $18-20k. Good Td5 D2a's are holding their price in Perth. Your's with all the fruit would have to be in that ball park or better :D

For the record my service, modification/bling and insurance spare purchase costs for the last year amount to just under $4k. That includes a major base line service after purchase and 2, routine 6 monthly's since. Nanocom purchase is on top of that.

There could be an interesting statistical study here of price paid verses $ spent in the first year :D:D:D

Cheers

Steve

[Disco Muppet]

I wish I could get 16k :eek: Mine got valued at 11 :(


There could be an interesting statistical study here of price paid verses $ spent in the first year :D:D:D


Because after the first year we run out of money :p

[robbotd5]

I'm up to my 9th year and I'm still in love, or is that denial, um, I'm not sure now.! Now seriously, it has been a great experience and it is an awesome vehicle. It would NOT be worth selling my Disco, I would not embarrass myself to take anything under 30K for it. So I guess I'll keep it until a D4 or D5 or D6 comes along!!!.
Regards
Robbo

[Rok_Dr]

Because after the first year we run out of money :p

True... fiscal fatigue usually strikes around then ;). However for all the second hand cars I've bought the first year of ownership is always the most costly, getting them to where you want them. My Alfa though after 18 years ownership in going through a second round of fiscal pain :(:(:( Its a small world Muppet but I was living in Orange at the time when I bought it.

Cheers

Steve

[Disco Muppet]

Small world indeed.
I learnt to drive on my echo, then started looking at some options.
I've always wanted a Nissan Skyline, so started looking at those when dad's old mate from the land rover club came over.
I curiously started searching for Landies on car sales, then brought out an add and said "what do you think".
They looked at each other and said "****, he's got it too!" :p
Ironically if I'd gotten a skyline due to P plater restrictions, I'd have spent way less.
But skylines suck, Discos rule :cool:

[Rok_Dr]

Small world indeed.
I learnt to drive on my echo, then started looking at some options.
I've always wanted a Nissan Skyline, so started looking at those when dad's old mate from the land rover club came over.
I curiously started searching for Landies on car sales, then brought out an add and said "what do you think".
They looked at each other and said "****, he's got it too!" :p
Ironically if I'd gotten a skyline due to P plater restrictions, I'd have spent way less.
But skylines suck, Discos rule :cool:

Yep a small funny world. I got the Alfa 2 weeks before my son was born. 2 weeks age he finally got his P's and is chuffed to be able to drive the Corolla solo. He'd love a disco or defender but cash flow constrains him and he also says the same about skylines :D Haven't told him about the army auctions yet ;)

At least over here there a more realistic view on what P platers can safely drive.

Cheers
Steve

[elshano]

Had my 99 v8 manual for about 2.5 years now. Paid 12.5k. Agreed value 9.8.
The td5's are definitely holding their value far better, always have but apart from the fuel consumption I love the v8

Just spent almost 5k, heads off, entire cooling system is basically brand new.

Apart from that just the usual consumables, drive it every day, use it for everything. Still love it to bits!

[turbopsi]

I paid top dollar for a good history D2aTD5 auto classic in late 2011, reckoning I could not justify an extra $20K for a T###ta. In the next 12 months I then spent $40K labour and parts on extras (excluding ins, reg etc), although $15K of that was for a replacement engine. So the super account is looking a bit sick.
And all that for a possible sale price now of $15K?

Mind me asking what happened to the original engine that it needed replacing?

Cheers.

[gavinwibrow]

Oil in turbo and lost part of front cylinder exhaust valve. Never did find out which came first.
Could have rebuilt it, but with concerns about the bottom end - son had to drive it 60 km thinking it was only in limp mode rather than stuffed (and no oil at end of the horror run) - we decided to be safe and replace it. I had just done a major refit ($7K) 1000km before with all new hoses, radiator/thermostat, water pump, HD intercooler, Provent, exhaust manifold deweb etc, so was not impressed.

[Naviguesser]

A year and and a 1/2 on and mine has cost me nothing other than servicing costs. Best $8000 I've spent :)

Fixed the three amigoes with advice here for no cost. All the other known faults had been done. May have an XYZ switch coming up, but we'll see.

Got a Skyline too, but its my race car :p

[mattadelaide1975]

have only been driving Land Rovers for 6 Moths, but loving it and everything that comes with them, the highs, and lows.

Had a v8 D2a for 3 months, then, due to fuel pricing burning a hole in my hip pocket, moved on from the V8 to a 2002 TD5.

The only issues I had with the V8 were:

- Muffler needed replacing, as the centre muffler fell off due to rust.
- replaced the spark plugs and leads due to misfiring.

The TD5 -

- Issue with rear right blinker - fixed thanks to the advise on here
- Changing of various bulbs that seem to blow every other month
and now - the Drivers side front window regulator will need to be replaced soon.
- I know at some stage I will need to have the Head Gasket done.

Both vehicles had complete service histories and I was able to talk to the Mechanics that looked after them prior to purchase.

[Robgw]

A year and a 1/2 with my 2001 D2 V8.

Midlife works completed :-

Serpantine Belt
Top Radiator Hose
Thermostat
Idle Pulley
Water Pump Gasket
Valley Gasket
Head Gaskets
Manifold Gaskets
Radiator Service
Air Bag to Coil Spring Conversion.
Brass Diff Filler Plugs
Air Mass Meter

Most of this was done out of labor of love, as my dad is a retired Mechanic and brought a suitcase of spares out from the UK. Apart from a small water leak from the Valley Bolts (not tight when Inlet Manifold removed!! The car had been in a LR dealer who had replaced the Valley Gasket a month before I bought it and two bolt had not been done up fully).

Runs like a dream..

[1976_michelle]

year on with mine, nothing but servicing apart from the fun with the original RWC
Just getting some sluggishness up a hill now and shes due for service almost anyway, so hopefully just something benign like fuel filter or sparks etc (so other symptoms and not always sluggish anyway but when she dont want to go, foot flat to floor is still not enough to get her revs up higher and get moving). Will find out next week, but otherwise, love it

[Robgw]

year on with mine, nothing but servicing apart from the fun with the original RWC
Just getting some sluggishness up a hill now and shes due for service almost anyway, so hopefully just something benign like fuel filter or sparks etc (so other symptoms and not always sluggish anyway but when she dont want to go, foot flat to floor is still not enough to get her revs up higher and get moving). Will find out next week, but otherwise, love it

Same happened to mine, big loss of power. It was the air mass meter.. MAF.

[1976_michelle]

Same happened to mine, big loss of power. It was the air mass meter.. MAF.
ah, wonder what bendigo ExLR charge,
ah well heres hoping. Will be better than the alternative which is head gasket

[JackH]

On Monday 20th May I will have had my 2000 TD5 Auto Disco 10yrs.
It had 79K on the clock when I took ownership in 2003 and has now just clocked over 307k.
I haven't fitted much to it apart from a TJM T15 alloy bull bar with 2 Cibie spot lights, Safari snorkel, steel rear bumper bar, icom UHF and had the centre diff lock lever activated.

Apart from regular oil and all filter changes every 10K I've fixed the following;

Water pump
Radiator x 2
Top radiator hose
Injector loom
Turbo boost regulator
Fuel cooler x 2
Front prop shaft x 2
Rubber donut x 2
Front diff
Rear diff
Rear hubs
Disc rotors x 8
Transfer case rebuild
Track rods x 2
Engine mounts
Body mounts
Viscous fan
Driver window regulator
Passenger widow regulator x 2
New head lining
3 amigos
Bilstein shocks x 8
Brass Diff Filler Plugs
Rocker cover gaskets x 2
XYZ switch
Batteries x 2

I know it's getting on in years and I'm sure more things will go wrong but I simply can't sell it...I love it.

Cheers,

[Disco Muppet]

I know it's getting on in years and I'm sure more things will go wrong but I simply can't sell it...I love it.


Yet you explain that to people and they just don't get it...
Forget" It's a Jeep thing"
It's a Land Rover thing. You will never understand.