Have you heard of Phelan & Moore motorcycles

[bob10]

An oldie, for sure, Bob




https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

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ID numberA04221 PhotographerUnknownObject type Black & white - Print silver gelatin Place madeUnited Kingdom: England CollectionPhotograph (http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/photographs/)DescriptionAn unidentified officer of the Royal Air Force (RAF) sitting on a Phelan and Moore Panther 3 1/2 horse power single cylinder motorcycle. Phelan and Moore began supplying motorcycles to the Royal Flying Corps and Australian Flying Corps in 1915 and continued to equip the reformed RAF until the late 1920's.

[bob10]

Another oldie, Bob

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ID numberP00136.004Object typeBlack & whitePhysical descriptionBlack & white CollectionPhotograph (http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/photographs/)Description

A TRIUMPH H MODEL MOTORCYCLE USED BY DISPATCH RIDERS OF THE AUSTRALIAN MOTOR TRANSPORT SERVICE. ( DONOR: A. STUBBS )

[bob10]

A Harley.
Harley Davidson 42WLA 750cc Motorcycle


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/


ID numberREL/08442.001TitleHarley Davidson 42WLA 750cc MotorcycleObject typeVehiclePlace madeUnited States of AmericaDate made1943Physical description

Rubber;
Steel;
CollectionTechnology (http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/heraldry_technology/)DescriptionHarley Davidson motorcycle, 750cc, model number 42 WLA. The exterior is painted in olive drab with the number '94139' applied to both sides of the fuel tank in white. The powerplant is a WLA 45, V twin cylinder air-cooled engine. Comes complete with windshield, two leather panniers mounted at the rear, a leather sub-machine gun bucket mounted on the right front fork and a small metal stowage box mounted on the left front fork.

[bob10]

A BSA in that "lustreless " paint


BSA WM20 Solo Motorcycle


http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/images/screen/REL%2F08296.jpg


Image 1
Image 2 (http://cas.awm.gov.au/item/REL/08296?image=2)
ID numberREL/08296TitleBSA WM20 Solo MotorcycleObject typeVehiclePlace madeUnited Kingdom: EnglandDate madec 1940sPhysical description

Rubber;
Steel;
CollectionTechnology (http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/heraldry_technology/)On displayMain building: World War 2 Gallery: Gallery 1 - MediterraneanDescriptionBSA, Solo WM20 motorcycle with side valve single cylinder 500cc engine. Two Dunlop Universal brand tyres are fitted. The seat is coil sprung and covered in black leatherette. Behind the seat a rigid steel framed pack rack has been fitted. Drum brakes are fitted front and rear with coil spring girder suspension for the front wheel. The rear wheel is not sprung. The single cylinder engine is finished in bare metal silver with the exhaust pipe and muffler painted matt black. Overall, the vehicle has been painted in Lustreless khaki green, No. 3 paint.

[bob10]

An Indian model 741B

Indian model 741B Solo Motorcycle : Australian Military Forces


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ID numberREL29920TitleIndian model 741B Solo Motorcycle : Australian Military ForcesMakerIndianObject typeVehiclePlace madeUnited States of AmericaDate madec 1940sPhysical description

Rubber;
Steel;
CollectionTechnology (http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/heraldry_technology/)DescriptionIndian model 741B Solo Motorcycle. Exterior is painted US Olive drab. 600cc 'V' twin petrol engine. The Army Registration number 40946 is painted on each side of the petrol tank in white. The motorcycle is fitted with pannier bags and rear vision mirror.SummaryThis type of motorcycle was used by the Australian Army and Royal Australian Air Force during the Second World War.

[bob10]

A Norton, with provision for a 3" Mortar!

Norton 'Big 4' motorcycle & sidecar combination : Australian Army


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Image 1
Image 2 (http://cas.awm.gov.au/item/REL28597?image=2)
ID numberREL28597TitleNorton 'Big 4' motorcycle & sidecar combination : Australian ArmyMakerNorton Motorcycles (UK) LtdObject typeVehiclePlace madeUnited KingdomDate made1939Physical descriptionSteel CollectionTechnology (http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/heraldry_technology/)DescriptionNorton 'Big 4' motorcycle with sidecar. Exterior painted in Khaki Green Number 3. Fully operational including drive to sidecar wheel. Missing sidecar mudguard lamp. Spare wheel is an incorrect type. The vehicle has a mileage reading of 95,623. Type information. Crew: 3; Powerplant: 633cc SV single-cylinder engine.SummaryThis motorcycle was part of the first batch delivered from the United Kingdom to the Australian Army in 1939. This type of general purpose motorcycle with sidecar was used by the Australian Army. It was suitable for off road terrain because it was fitted with a drive shaft to the sidecar wheel. The sidecar was fitted in various configuations including the provision of a 3 inch mortar.

[bob10]

Restored BMW



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ID numberREL/16441.001TitleBMW R12 motorcycle and sidecar combinationObject typeVehiclePlace madeGermanyDate madec 1941Physical description

Leather;
Rubber;
Steel;
CollectionTechnology (http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/heraldry_technology/)On displayMain building: World War 2 Gallery: Gallery 1 - MediterraneanDescriptionFully restored BMW R12 750cc motorcycle, sidecar combination in operating condition. The vehicle has been finished in the early German war scheme of dark grey and has black upholstery. The engine is finished in polished bare metal with black and silver cylinder heads and a black exhaust system. Most detail items have been fitted. This includes the front headlight with built in speedometer, rear tail lights and reflectors, front and rear number plate brackets. Three small aluminium discs depicting the BMW logo of the quartered circle are mounted on each side of the fuel tank with the third fitted to the side car. The frame is made from built up steel pressings and some steel tubing which connects the sidecar with the motorcycle. The front end suspension uses telescoping forks with hydraulic damping while the rear end is rigid. The sidecar has leaf springing. The drivers seat uses two vertical coil springs to assist in shock absorption while the pillion seat is dampened using a horizontal coil spring. A black ring handhold is fitted for the pillion position. The sidecar has a grab bar mounted for the passenger and behind the passengers compartment is a small storage boot with hinged lid. A tan coloured, leather pannier bag is also fitted. Riveted to the front top of the sidecar is a small rectangular white metal plate titled 'Krad B' which specifies three different weights in kilograms. The rear and sidecar tyres are Dunlop Universals 4"x18". The front tyre is a Barum 3.5" x 19".

[Redback]

Here's a few more classics, curtousy of Birdwood Mill Motor Museum

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/bazzar/South%20Australian%20Adventure/DSC01019.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bazzar/media/South%20Australian%20Adventure/DSC01019.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/bazzar/South%20Australian%20Adventure/DSC01017.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bazzar/media/South%20Australian%20Adventure/DSC01017.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/bazzar/South%20Australian%20Adventure/DSC01018.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bazzar/media/South%20Australian%20Adventure/DSC01018.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/bazzar/South%20Australian%20Adventure/DSC01051.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bazzar/media/South%20Australian%20Adventure/DSC01051.jpg.html)

[Don 130]

A bloke rode a beautifully restored Zundapp 750 complete with sidecar and a little trailer, into an antique machinery exhibition I was at. I couldn't keep my eyes off it. Sidecar wheel driven, difflock, reverse, amazing freight capacity.

The history of the heavy German military bike Zuendapp KS 750 1941 - 1945<O:P></O:P> (http://www.wehrmachtsgespann.de/zuendappenglisch/)

Don.

[bob10]

A bloke rode a beautifully restored Zundapp 750 complete with sidecar and a little trailer, into an antique machinery exhibition I was at. I couldn't keep my eyes off it. Sidecar wheel driven, difflock, reverse, amazing freight capacity.

The history of the heavy German military bike Zuendapp KS 750 1941 - 1945<O:P></O:P> (http://www.wehrmachtsgespann.de/zuendappenglisch/)

Don.

Amazing, all right. would dearly love to have a ride on one of those. Bob

[bob10]

Check out the motorcycle recovery, Bob
BMW R75 + Zündapp KS 750 1943 Offroad in den Pyrenäen - YouTube (http://youtu.be/yZfibDVmQOs)

[V8Ian]

A Harley.
Harley Davidson 42WLA 750cc Motorcycle


http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/images/screen/REL%2F08442.001.jpg


ID numberREL/08442.001TitleHarley Davidson 42WLA 750cc MotorcycleObject typeVehiclePlace madeUnited States of AmericaDate made1943Physical description

Rubber;
Steel;
CollectionTechnology (http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/heraldry_technology/)DescriptionHarley Davidson motorcycle, 750cc, model number 42 WLA. The exterior is painted in olive drab with the number '94139' applied to both sides of the fuel tank in white. The powerplant is a WLA 45, V twin cylinder air-cooled engine. Comes complete with windshield, two leather panniers mounted at the rear, a leather sub-machine gun bucket mounted on the right front fork and a small metal stowage box mounted on the left front fork.How does one do a hill-start on one of these contraptions?

[Chucaro]

This is what I would love to have in my garage both hand made :cool:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/05/620.jpg


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/05/621.jpg

[bobslandies]

An oldie, for sure, Bob




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ID numberA04221 PhotographerUnknownObject type Black & white - Print silver gelatin Place madeUnited Kingdom: England CollectionPhotograph (http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/photographs/)DescriptionAn unidentified officer of the Royal Air Force (RAF) sitting on a Phelan and Moore Panther 3 1/2 horse power single cylinder motorcycle. Phelan and Moore began supplying motorcycles to the Royal Flying Corps and Australian Flying Corps in 1915 and continued to equip the reformed RAF until the late 1920's.

It is actually Phelon & Moore - see:

Phelon & Moore - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's a 1924 model at a rally of Phelon & Moore / Panther bikes:

Enthusiast Rare Panthers at annual rally - Weekly Times Now (http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/article/2009/09/23/115151_enthusiast.html)

Bob

[V8Ian]

In a similar vein, check out Alldays & Onions; another all but forgotten manufacturer.

Alldays & Onions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Alldays & Onion (http://www.swedishbrasscar.com/dokument/alldays.html)

[jerryd]

I've always wanted one of these :cool:

uralofoz.com.au - Sale Outfits (http://www.uralofoz.com.au/pb/wp_fb682957/wp_fb682957.html)

[bob10]

In a similar vein, check out Alldays & Onions; another all but forgotten manufacturer.

Alldays & Onions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alldays_%26_Onions)

Alldays & Onion (http://www.swedishbrasscar.com/dokument/alldays.html)

Those were the days, classic. Bob

[bob10]

I've always wanted one of these :cool:

uralofoz.com.au - Sale Outfits (http://www.uralofoz.com.au/pb/wp_fb682957/wp_fb682957.html)

Very interesting. I have placed that in my favourites , if only for the info. in :
" Ural trip to the mountains" Might get down that way sometime. Russian motorbike enthusiast club, whou'da thought!. Bob

[gromit]

I own a Panther M100 (Phelon & Moore) with a Watsonian Palma sidecar. Not quite as old as the bike in the picture in the first post. I'll have to find some photo's
I also have a couple of the other bikes mentioned in the thread.
Norton Big 4 (tele. front rigid rear)
Vincent Rapide

Plus
Matchless G80L (tele. front rigid rear)
Norton Electra (400cc electric start)
Norton Navigator (350cc version of the above)

What I don't seem to have is the time and/or money to get them on the road.......


Colin

[Redback]

I love all the old bikes, if I was to pick one bike, I think it would be a 1927 Indian Chief, I love the style of the bike, just a beautiful looking bike.

I've been riding bikes my whole life, don't think I've ever been without one since I was about 16yrs old.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/05/603.jpg

At the moment I'm "trying" to restore a 1973 Kawasaki H2 750, with any luck it should go from this, it's current condition.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bazzar/media/Bike%20Photos/2__Nov_03_008.jpg.html)

To this, but with expansion chambers, mine is a 1973 model H2A, last model of this paint scheme, not a classic as with the older bikes above, but still a classic bike from the day, mine won't be brought to show room condition, just good to look good and be rideable.

http://cdn2.bikesevolution.com/photos/37/5a/all-kawasaki-bikes-and-atv39s_52b10.jpg

Baz,

[bob10]

I love all the old bikes, if I was to pick one bike, I think it would be a 1927 Indian Chief, I love the style of the bike, just a beautiful looking bike.

I've been riding bikes my whole life, don't think I've ever been without one since I was about 16yrs old.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/05/603.jpg

,
Is that the model Bert [ of the Worlds fastest Indian fame ] rode in the World record attempt in the USA? Bob

[Redback]

Is that the model Bert [ of the Worlds fastest Indian fame ] rode in the World record attempt in the USA? Bob

I thought his was a 650 Scout, time to go google I think:)

OK it started life as a 600cc Scout, and ended as a 950cc, here's a replica
, that is on diplay in Te Papa NZ.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/05/600.jpg

[gromit]

The Indian Sports Scout shown in this link is for sale by someone I work with.
1938 Indian Sports Scout - YouTube


He has the waterslide transfers for the tank.
I can provide more details if needed.


Colin

[UncleHo]

G'day Chucaro

Love the pics,the Vincent looks to be a Black Shadow going by the big "Cocks" speedo,and love the Beemer,R69s with Pagusa single seat,from the mid 50's with the tool box in the tank,I have 2 of the model before,R51/3's I used to ride BMW's from the about 1965 onwards as my daily transport,beautifull touring bike,I have never seen rear pannier bags like those,very well shaped,which would be in keeping with the sports image of the sporty R50's or R69s


My son owns and rides regularly his restored pre-war Panthers,his daily ride is a 100th Anniversary Harley


cheers

[Chucaro]

G'day Chucaro

Love the pics,the Vincent looks to be a Black Shadow going by the big "Cocks" speedo,and love the Beemer,R69s with Pagusa single seat,from the mid 50's with the tool box in the tank,I have 2 of the model before,R51/3's I used to ride BMW's from the about 1965 onwards as my daily transport,beautifull touring bike,I have never seen rear pannier bags like those,very well shaped,which would be in keeping with the sports image of the sporty R50's or R69s


My son owns and rides regularly his restored pre-war Panthers,his daily ride is a 100th Anniversary Harley


cheers

Yes, it is a Black Shadow, both bikes are a gem.
I used to have BMW bikes, R90s, R100, R850R and the awesome R1150GS.
The R50s is very rare and I would love to see one of them here in Oz.
When new was the favorite police bike in Uruguay which was replaced by the R69s.
They were a beauty with the side car on :cool:

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My twin sons also ride Harley Davidson shovelhead which I call them Ferguson T20 on 2 wheels :D

[redrovertdi]

some of my junk

that photo didnt make it?

[Redback]

Just a couple more curtousy of Birdwood Mill in SA.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/bazzar/Bike%20Photos/DSC01180_zps28267b91.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bazzar/media/Bike%20Photos/DSC01180_zps28267b91.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/bazzar/Bike%20Photos/DSC01184_zps7d6c537b.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bazzar/media/Bike%20Photos/DSC01184_zps7d6c537b.jpg.html)

AND

this little gem
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/bazzar/DSC01132_zps825113e7.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bazzar/media/DSC01132_zps825113e7.jpg.html)