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newlandyowner
16th May 2013, 07:18 AM
Can anyone reccomend a good place to buy a Safari snorkel for a TD5?
Looking at buying one this week.
Cheers
greg smith
16th May 2013, 07:37 AM
Can anyone reccomend a good place to buy a Safari snorkel for a TD5?
Looking at buying one this week.
Cheers
I kept an eye out on ebay etc and scored mine a lot cheaper than the regular4/4 suppliers:D
twr7cx
16th May 2013, 08:48 AM
Buy from the UK. Usually around $150.00 cheaper than the Australian retail price even once delivered.
Canaussie
16th May 2013, 09:40 AM
Lr series in the UK is good
iPom
16th May 2013, 10:36 AM
Apparentley made in Australia....but cheaper to buy in the UK ????
Modelsp
16th May 2013, 11:34 AM
I got mine here 2 weeks ago
$289 delivered
took 3 days to get here from WA
cheers
Paul:D;)
Full Boar Premium Snorkel KIT 4x4 Land Rover Discovery Series 2 TD5 AND V8 4WD | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FULL-BOAR-Premium-Snorkel-kit-4x4-Land-Rover-Discovery-Series-2-TD5-and-V8-4wd-/181140467620?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a2cd02fa4)
Roverlord off road spares
16th May 2013, 01:28 PM
I got mine here 2 weeks ago
$289 delivered
took 3 days to get here from WA
cheers
Paul:D;)
Full Boar Premium Snorkel KIT 4x4 Land Rover Discovery Series 2 TD5 AND V8 4WD | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FULL-BOAR-Premium-Snorkel-kit-4x4-Land-Rover-Discovery-Series-2-TD5-and-V8-4wd-/181140467620?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a2cd02fa4)
They even go cheaper around $199 those snorkels with" Discovery" written on the side, just marketed under different sellers. Chinese copies
They not as good as a Safari which the O.P asked.
To the OP yes unfortunately the geniune Safari are cheaper to purchase from UK:mad:
newlandyowner
16th May 2013, 04:54 PM
I did look into the UK idea, found one on Paddock Spares but after postage it wasn't much cheaper than buying one from here.
frostyblue
16th May 2013, 07:53 PM
Consider the $199 snorkels, i bought one and do exactly the same thing, mine is still as goodas new seals fine, been through plenty of bush hitting bushes etc and has stood up just as good as any on the market,
Cheers
Ken
twr7cx
17th May 2013, 02:52 PM
Apparentley made in Australia....but cheaper to buy in the UK ????
Sadly yes, this seems to be the way of Australian retail to rip off the Australian public. Then they winge about online sales and declining store sales as though they have no idea why...
I did look into the UK idea, found one on Paddock Spares but after postage it wasn't much cheaper than buying one from here.
I'd still consider doing it just to stick it to the rip off local resellers...
Roverlord off road spares
19th May 2013, 11:37 AM
Sadly yes, this seems to be the way of Australian retail to rip off the Australian public. Then they winge about online sales and declining store sales as though they have no idea why...
I'd still consider doing it just to stick it to the rip off local resellers...
I may not always be the case, ask your self this
WHAT IS SAFARI SELLING THE SNORKELS FOR TO THE UK and WHAT ARE THEY SELLING THEM WHOLE SALE TO THE AUSSIE DISTRIBUTERS? If Safari are selling them cheaper to the overseas market then that could explain. Don't always blame sellers in Aus without knowing all the facts.
If it was an even playing field and UK and Aus were paying the same wholesale price then you could start screaming.
BIG O
19th May 2013, 12:50 PM
Would it be safe to say the UK sellers have to pay to import them.as well..? but can still sell them cheaper .!!.
Im interested in the Chinese copy for that price ..polyethylene is polyethylene unless its polypropylene . I guess it all depends on their skills at mould:oing .:o
stallie
19th May 2013, 03:05 PM
I'm in the market for one too.
What's the best price found delivered for the genuine article here in Oz?
joel0407
19th May 2013, 03:57 PM
Ive been pretty keen on on of the cheaper ones like this Full Boar Premium Snorkel KIT 4x4 Land Rover Discovery Series 2 TD5 AND V8 4WD | eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181140467620&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en)
I just want to know how much they differ from the Safari Snorkels. Are they the same size, do they flow the same, are they the same difficulty/easy to fit?
Happy Days.
FenianEel
19th May 2013, 04:36 PM
Im interested in the Chinese copy for that price
You won't when it's starts to fall apart from the inside, and go through your engine, or crack and fall apart after 2 years on the outside. I've seen both and it's not pretty, and it doesn't work out to be a cheap snorkel then. :eek:
joel0407
19th May 2013, 05:12 PM
You won't when it's starts to fall apart from the inside, and go through your engine.
What? Are you a Safari Dealer? How did it go through the engine? Was there no air filter in the air box?
Sorry if I have misunderstood your comment but it seems very silly to me.
joel0407
19th May 2013, 05:14 PM
crack and fall apart after 2 years on the outside. I've seen both and it's not pretty, and it doesn't work out to be a cheap snorkel then. :eek:
Again, You can buy 3 for the price of one Australian sold Safari Snorkel. That's 6 years worth of snorkels.
bob10
19th May 2013, 05:17 PM
Newlandy owner, consider the Mantec snorkel, designed for the D2, I have fitted one myself, not only does the job well, but looks the goods. Powdercoated steel, low profile. I bought mine off the Paddocks UK site. Bob
joel0407
19th May 2013, 05:28 PM
You won't when it's starts to fall apart from the inside, and go through your engine, or crack and fall apart after 2 years on the outside. I've seen both and it's not pretty, and it doesn't work out to be a cheap snorkel then. :eek:
Sorry if I sounded a bit abrupt in my last 2 posts that were directed at you but I am offended by your comment suggesting that should the snorkel start to break down that it could go through your engine. As the snorkel does nothing but feed air to the airbox where the air filter sits, I can't see that being possible. I was offended because I took it that you think I am stupid and would not know that. I have red some of your previous posts. Can you tell us your affiliation with UV4x4, ARB store?
I am not against Safari Snorkels and I am still considering the possiblity of purchasing one but I'm giving the cheaper copies plenty of chance to prove they are equally as good before I do so. If I find they are as good then I will purchase a cheaper snorkel instead of the Safari.
If anyone is interested in the Mantec. Last time I spoke with CLR in Sydney, he had one on the shelf for a reasonable price. I considered it but I prefer the forward facing air scoop.
Happy Days
newlandyowner
19th May 2013, 06:03 PM
I mainly looked at the Safari because of the harsh summers here in WA. Plus they are on all the work utes and they still look/are ok.
Roverlord off road spares
19th May 2013, 09:34 PM
Would it be safe to say the UK sellers have to pay to import them.as well..? but can still sell them cheaper .!!.
Im interested in the Chinese copy for that price ..polyethylene is polyethylene unless its polypropylene . I guess it all depends on their skills at mould:oing .:o
Correct, they would, but if they are buying them as greatly reduced wholesale prices and including imports, then it's not an even playing field.
And any one within a moulding industry would realise it doesn't cost much per item to turn out on a production line in volume. How much do you reckon these $199 Chinese specials actually cost to make? some one is making good money on these.
sheerluck
19th May 2013, 10:19 PM
........And any one within a moulding industry would realise it doesn't cost much per item to turn out on a production line in volume. How much do you reckon these $199 Chinese specials actually cost to make? some one is making good money on these.
I used to work for a tier one supplier to Jaguar, Land Rover, Peugeot and others, and we supplied moulded/painted/assembled exterior plastic parts, such as bumpers.
We used to sell complete, painted bumpers to Peugeot (I use that example as it's roughly a similar plastic volume and plastic type) for £29. And we clearly made money on that sale. A plain plastic moulding for a snorkel is going to much less than that.
twr7cx
20th May 2013, 01:29 PM
Correct, they would, but if they are buying them as greatly reduced wholesale prices and including imports, then it's not an even playing field.
And national stores such as ARB or TJM or Opposite Lock would be unable to get the same wholesale prices from Safari Snorkels that the UK organisations can get?
Either way we are being ripped off by the sellers. Either at Safari's end or at the retailers end.
BIG O
22nd May 2013, 11:17 AM
"Some one is making good money on these "! Yeah maybe but I think I would like to save some money on these!!
I would love to see some pictures of engines consuming snorkels past the air filter too..!!!:p. Must be getting hard to sell safari if that's the line they're using .
99TD5
22nd May 2013, 12:35 PM
And national stores such as ARB or TJM or Opposite Lock would be unable to get the same wholesale prices from Safari Snorkels that the UK organisations can get?
Either way we are being ripped off by the sellers. Either at Safari's end or at the retailers end.
It is a numbers game with a lot of items like this, you get price breaks depending on number of units bought, UK resellers an naturally going to have a much higher volume due to having a larger market compared to OZ resellers.
It is not a matter of Australian resellers trying to rip off their market it is that they do not get a big enough price break them selves to sell at the same price of overseas resellers and still make enough money to stay in business.
joel0407
22nd May 2013, 02:16 PM
I would love to see some pictures of engines consuming snorkels past the air filter too..!!!:p. Must be getting hard to sell safari if that's the line they're using .
I'm keeping an eye on this thread. I haven't seen him come back to either explain how it happened or appoligize for confusing it with something else.
Happy Days.
FenianEel
23rd May 2013, 04:00 PM
What? Are you a Safari Dealer? How did it go through the engine? Was there no air filter in the air box?
Sorry if I have misunderstood your comment but it seems very silly to me.
Ok, poorly written, I was talking about water going through the engine.:o
I wasn't suggesting the snorkel had been sucked into the engine!
Again, You can buy 3 for the price of one Australian sold Safari Snorkel. That's 6 years worth of snorkels.
So you would seriously consider buying a snorkel every two years? :wallbash:
A snorkel is a one off purchase that should outlast the car.
Sorry if I sounded a bit abrupt in my last 2 posts that were directed at you but I am offended by your comment......I was offended because I took it that you think I am stupid and would not know that..........
I never conversed with you in this entire thread, until now - so I can't help you with that one.
I have red some of your previous posts.
Read them, so what?
Can you tell us your affiliation with UV4x4, ARB store?
It's no secret I manage Uv4x4 Enoggera (an ARB & Safari stockist).I'm a long time member here, have supported aulro.com for years, and given sponsorship & support to many events, including the recent Defender day.
If you'd like me to preface every post with a disclaimer well...:rolleyes: negative.
I'm keeping an eye on this thread. I haven't seen him come back to either explain how it happened or appoligize for confusing it with something else.
Happy Days.
Not sure why you need to take the tone you have, or be offended, or have a crack at me. Nor what I need to apologise for.
Anyway, HAPPY DAYS as you say. ;)
manic
23rd May 2013, 05:11 PM
It is a numbers game with a lot of items like this, you get price breaks depending on number of units bought, UK resellers an naturally going to have a much higher volume due to having a larger market compared to OZ resellers.
It is not a matter of Australian resellers trying to rip off their market it is that they do not get a big enough price break them selves to sell at the same price of overseas resellers and still make enough money to stay in business.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are more snorkels on 4x4's here in 'outback Australia' than there are in 'built up Britain'.
High Australian dollar plays a part in all this. The average Australian does not see 1AUD being worth more or less one day to the next. Stronger dollar, but same familiar prices.
Look at it from Safari Snorkels Perspective. Over the past decade as AUD has got much stronger the retail price in Australia has become more valuable whilst appearing to stay the same. Expenses for manufacture would have gone down, especially if imported (SSnokrs made in china?). Without having to do much, profits rise and sales remain steady. So why would manufacturer/reseller lower the prices and reduce their profit when the snorkels are still selling?
This is a case of supplier and reseller working together to get as much profit out of the product as they can in any given market. In the UK you couldn't sell them at the price you can sell them here. Australians are willing to pay more.
joel0407
23rd May 2013, 05:22 PM
Ok, poorly written, I was talking about water going through the engine.:o
I wasn't suggesting the snorkel had been sucked into the engine!
So you would seriously consider buying a snorkel every two years? :wallbash:
A snorkel is a one off purchase that should outlast the car.
I never conversed with you in this entire thread, until now - so I can't help you with that one.
Read them, so what?
It's no secret I manage Uv4x4 Enoggera (an ARB & Safari stockist).I'm a long time member here, have supported aulro.com for years, and given sponsorship & support to many events, including the recent Defender day.
If you'd like me to preface every post with a disclaimer well...:rolleyes: negative.
Not sure why you need to take the tone you have, or be offended, or have a crack at me. Nor what I need to apologise for.
Anyway, HAPPY DAYS as you say. ;)
All good mate, Thanks for the clarification. As I understood it, you ment the plastic of the snorkel had broken down and gone through the engine. As it is quiet obvious to me the air filter sits between the engine and the snorkel, this is just not possible.
I felt I was being told a left handle hammer cost more than a right handled hammer because left handled hammers are better. Noit only would that be offensive for someone to tell me that and while I have no problem with having a joke with someone to expect a less experinced person to pay more simply because they dont know is just as wrong.
Thanks for explaining your post.
Happy Days.
BIG O
24th May 2013, 11:40 AM
Hmmm not sure that I'm not offended..the post sent was directed to me and clearly states " fall apart from the inside and go through your engine" . No mention of water .Claims also to have seen it happen. Well in 30 odd years as a diesel mechanic I've never seen it. send a photo please . I will stand by my later posted comment about it.
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