View Full Version : Am I getting old.....or what?
jx2mad
22nd May 2013, 09:26 AM
I am out of my depth here. Came into my office today where computer was running and found my 4 year old grandson playing on-line car games. I asked him how did he get to the games and he promptly showed me how he logged on to internet, found the shortcut to the games, opened it up and was happily playing. Me...I never saw a computer until my mid 20's. Where are we headed. My 2 year old grand daughter knows more about navigating around the Ipad than I do. She finds her games and plays them without help.... Do I have another generation of nerds or do others find the same thing happening Jim:):):)
Duke4
22nd May 2013, 10:13 AM
No, pretty normal.
When the mother in law has problems with her iPhone or iPad, she goes straight to the 7yr old grand daughter.
It was funny watching my wife trying to explain it, they both just got more confused, my daughter just gets straight to the point.
Chucaro
22nd May 2013, 11:14 AM
I do not know your age, I am 67 and I remember back then we use a lot of creativity to entertaining our self.
We used to play soccer (the real football :p ) with an old sock filled with newspaper and played bear feet now if the do not have FIFA approved gear and shoes they do not play :(
When the weather was bad we used to play a lot of card games and other table games were the need to outsmart the other was the only way to win.
And most important we new about maths formulas without a calculator.
Now if they run out of batteries they are lost ;)
So mate, it is not to bad, every generation have the things in favor and against.
Davo
22nd May 2013, 11:16 AM
Yes, you're getting old, but so am I, so I can understand. It's just spooky how easily kids can do these things. However, I have teenaged rellies who am I sure have never climbed a tree and I know will never, ever be able to weld, split firewood, or assemble anything from Ikea, so it all evens out.
vnx205
22nd May 2013, 11:26 AM
I am also amazed at how quickly my now three year old granddaughter has picked up those same skills.
However, I strongly dispute the claim that being able to do that means that kids are smarter.
I bet none of them are very good at milking a cow and I bet none of them can do the sort of knitting, crochet and tatting that my mother could do from an early age right up until her death at 92.
The illusion that kids are smarter is perpetuated by the fact that they frequently get the chance to show off their skills by setting the clock on the microwave or setting up the video recorder (or HDD PVR) to record a program. Grandma seldom gets the chance to show off the skills that she learned as a young girl because they are unfortunately less relevant today. Yet grandma's skills took just as much intelligence as learning to use a touch screen.
Kids aren't smarter, but they are learning different skills from the ones that their parents and grandparents learned.
vnx205
22nd May 2013, 11:33 AM
And most important we knew about maths formulas without a calculator.
Now if they run out of batteries they are lost ;)
So mate, it is not to bad, every generation have the things in favor and against.
I have seen young people stare in jaw dropping amazement at the sight of an adult who can do mental arithmetic.
I think they are just as astounded by that as we tend to be at how quickly a toddler masters a touch screen.
Landy Smurf
22nd May 2013, 12:07 PM
Kids can learn an develop lots of skills very quickly.
It has been said before but I think one of the issues the younger(including mine) have is there are just so many different things to give our attention ad time to.
I personally think that my grandparents grew up in the best generation.
Who knows exactly what these generations will be like.
I am amazed how many young kids can use so much different technology.
jx2mad
22nd May 2013, 12:19 PM
Yep you are right. I am 67 and as stated we had to entertain ourselves OUTDOORS. Climbing fishing swimming, billy carts etc.etc. Kids these days live a much quieter life when they are young. I never saw tv until I had left school. Coff's Harbour was a quiet place back in the 50's. Oh well this is modern society for you! Us old dinosaurs are a lost race, but there is still some bark left in me yet.
vnx205
22nd May 2013, 12:21 PM
Those skills we are discussing here probably pale into insignificance when compared with the fact that infants can learn to use language to communicate.
In fact some children learn at a very early age to communicate in several languages and that has always been the case.
vnx205
22nd May 2013, 12:25 PM
Coff's Harbour was a quiet place back in the 50's.
If you think Coff's Harbour was quiet in the 50's, imagine how quiet Sawtell was when I was growing up there in the 50's.
When I went to High School in Coff's in the 60's, it seemed like a thriving metropolis by comparison. :D
Chucaro
22nd May 2013, 12:56 PM
This thread looks like that it is for the "white brigade" :)
We should start every reply like this: "When I was a boy..........":D
................yes, there were good times back then :cool:
But I can telling you that it is fun to see our grand children grow up and develop new skills.
I guess that it is up to us now to tech them some off the old tricks that we learned from our grand parents.
trog
22nd May 2013, 01:13 PM
Well i am a happy little lud ! No smart phone , interest in computers other than AULRO and gmail and prefer a paper road map. My only concession is the Ipod as I love my music library.
jx2mad
22nd May 2013, 02:12 PM
Hi Allan. Remember the school train. Used to bring the kids from way down the coast up to Coff's and return in the pm. And what about the tuck shop. Baked all its own goodies on site and the aroma wafted up through the class rooms. Headmaster Mr Silk. Jim
vnx205
22nd May 2013, 02:40 PM
Hi Jim
Until the year before I started High School, the train was a school special drawn by a small steam engine. It was affectionately known as "Miz", short for "Misery".
I was always disappointed that i didn't get the travel to school on that one. The year I started High School, they retired that train and just tacked a few carriages on the back of whatever train was on the line at the appropriate time. For quite a while it was the North Coast Mail Train, but there was a period of time when it was a goods train. That would not normally be too bad, but on occasions the goods train was carrying blood and bone fertiliser or something equally aromatic.
So do you remember Miss Casey, the Latin teacher; "Botch" England; or any others?
Were you aware of the fact that Senator Bob Brown was a year ahead of us at Coff's?
Allan
DeeJay
22nd May 2013, 02:48 PM
You two should tweet or Facebook each other !!:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:
Chucaro
22nd May 2013, 04:49 PM
You two should tweet or Facebook each other !!:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:
I think that this a very nice experience for them, good on you young boys. keep chating that I am enjoying it.
My old school mates are very far away, you are lucky :)
Blknight.aus
22nd May 2013, 05:58 PM
cmon guys stop it....
we're not allowed our phones past a certain point on the line.
a job wasnt getting done because the gauges were not in the right scale. upon telling them the formula for the conversion I then had to show them through long devision to complete the conversion because we cant have electronics past the line...
Chucaro
22nd May 2013, 06:10 PM
Just wonder how many of the young generation know how to use one of these ?
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/05/258.jpg
jx2mad
22nd May 2013, 06:31 PM
Miss Casey the Latin teacher. What about Miss Norris the girl's pe teacher who always wore a mini skirt. Then there was Mr Bonnell who ran the Cadets. Jim
UncleHo
22nd May 2013, 06:41 PM
Yup! I grew up in that era too,69 now,mental arithmetic,sounding out letters in grades 1 & 2,learning parsing and the use of punctuation,and feeling the cane when I misbehaved,but it sure helped when I went to High School,and when job hunting as well as being well groomed for interveiws.
cheers
mikehzz
22nd May 2013, 06:47 PM
Being groomed has taken on a new meaning these days...
jx2mad
22nd May 2013, 06:52 PM
Hey Allen. Can you still sing the school song. I got my name in the school magazine for reading 76 library books in the first 6 months of first year... I found a library. Jim
UncleHo
22nd May 2013, 06:59 PM
OK Mikehzz, NOT that sort of grooming !!!
cheers
DiscoStew
22nd May 2013, 07:17 PM
While also lamenting the loss of some skills, I have found plenty of oldies who cannot do maths, or who cannot deal with complex logic.
Every generation has it's share of members who lack numerical, grammatical and rational-thinking skills. I am pretty sure that sentence is grammatically incorrect :)
My favourite was 35 years ago when I had to wait for an older gentleman to work out how much change to give me when I gave him $30 for a $25 purchase. He pulled out a calculator to check my suggestion that it was $5!
Before you flame me, check the punctuation on some of the posts in this thread!
I agree that the tech skills demonstrated by kids does not make them smarter. Teenagers are much more informed now than we were, however, wisdom comes from converting information to knowledge, and then making good decisions. Kids show the same lack of wisdom now as I did when I was young and stupid.
bob10
22nd May 2013, 07:37 PM
This thread looks like that it is for the "white brigade" :)
We should start every reply like this: "When I was a boy..........":D
................yes, there were good times back then :cool:.
I've always liked this, Bob
Monty Python - Four Yorkshiremen - YouTube (http://youtu.be/Xe1a1wHxTyo)
Series3 GT
22nd May 2013, 07:40 PM
It's not just old people that struggle with technology, I'm 15 and I have an engineering class at school and we built some small electric cars and I was first to build it and I had a full ladder chassis and bigger wheels and a lower gear ratio and everyone's going wow that's cool and we've now moved on to computer stuff and all of a sudden I'm the last one to finish and I still don't get it and someone just walks up and does a few clicks of the mouse and taps a few keys and the problem's solved. Then again I can rebuild an engine and gearbox or whatever mechanical problems I encounter (like to see them do that). Then again I do own a 1970 IIA and a 1976 Land Ranger 100" so electronics aren't a big issue.
Cobber
22nd May 2013, 08:34 PM
I was only having this conversation with one of the guys at work the other day. His four year old daughter picked up mums iPad for the first time, and instinctively knew what to do :eek: meanwhile dad has been playing around with the iPad for months and has discovered maybe 5% of its capability :D
Davo
22nd May 2013, 09:04 PM
It's not just old people that struggle with technology, I'm 15 and I have an engineering class at school and we built some small electric cars and I was first to build it and I had a full ladder chassis and bigger wheels and a lower gear ratio and everyone's going wow that's cool and we've now moved on to computer stuff and all of a sudden I'm the last one to finish and I still don't get it and someone just walks up and does a few clicks of the mouse and taps a few keys and the problem's solved. Then again I can rebuild an engine and gearbox or whatever mechanical problems I encounter (like to see them do that). Then again I do own a 1970 IIA and a 1976 Land Ranger 100" so electronics aren't a big issue.
Well I'm in my forties and you've just described me, so don't feel too bad. And I really feel that having actual manual skills is better in the long run since electronics are only useful for so many things, but not what what you might call "foundation" needs like housing, growing food, fabrication and so on.
Chucaro
22nd May 2013, 09:36 PM
Perhaps all comes to which side of our brain is the dominant.
I know that mine is the right.
Have a look these pages, is a good test :)
Hemispheric Dominance Inventory (http://capone.mtsu.edu/studskl/hd/hemispheric_dominance.html)
Left vs. Right Which Side Are You On? (http://capone.mtsu.edu/studskl/hd/LRBrain.html)
mikehzz
22nd May 2013, 09:51 PM
Depending on technology is a recipe for disaster in the long run. If the lights go out then you are up a creek without a paddle. There's a thing called Fermi's Paradox which questions why there aren't advanced civilizations evident throughout the galaxy since there have been billions of years available for them to evolve and develop. One explanation is that technological advances that push too far from natural balance are ultimately doomed and collapse in on themselves. If you were stuck on a desert island with an ipod you would have music for a day and then a useless bit of junk after that. All the technology is only useful inside the elaborate framework required to sustain it. So all you old geezers who only know practical things....don't feel too bad about it. :)
Landy Smurf
23rd May 2013, 08:24 AM
I just did a test and I am left brain dominant.
I did not like most of the questions but the end reasoning made sense
digger
23rd May 2013, 10:38 AM
So Ive noticed these following things, are they signs that help you realise you're getting older?
Everything hurts and what doesn't hurt doesn't work.
The gleam in my eyes is from the sun hitting my bi-focals.
I feel like the morning after even when I haven't been anywhere.
My little black book contains only names that start with Dr.
The children begin to look middle aged.
I finally reach the top of the ladder and find it leaning against the wrong wall.
My mind is making contracts my body can't meet.
I look forward to a dull evening.
My favorite part of the newspaper is the "20 Years Ago Today" section
I turn out the lights for economic rather than romantic reasons.
I sat in a rocking chair and can't get it going.
My knees buckle, and my belt won't.
Im 17 around the neck, 42 around the waist, and 95 around the golf course.
My back goes out more than you do.
My Pacemaker makes the garage door go up when I see a pretty girl.
The little old gray haired lady I helped across the street is my wife.
I sink my teeth into a steak, and they stay there.
I have too much room in the house and not enough in the medicine cabinet.
I get your exercise acting as a pallbearer for friends who exercise.
I know all the answers, but nobody asks the questions.
I'm asleep, but others worry that I'm dead.
I have quit trying to hold my stomach in, no matter who walks into the room.
I bought a compass for the dash of the car.
I'm proud of my lawn mower.
My best friend is dating someone half their age...and isn't breaking any laws.
My arms are almost too short to read the newspaper.
I can sing along with the elevator music.
I would rather go to work than stay home sick.
We constantly talk about the price of petrol/diesel.
I enjoy hearing about other people's operations.
I consider coffee one of the most important things in life.
I no longer think of speed limits as a challange.
Neighbors borrow your tools.
People call at 9 p.m. and ask, "Did I wake you?"
I had a dream about prunes.
I answered a question with, "because I said so."
On the rare occasions I wear one the end of my tie doesn't come anywhere near the top of my pants.
I take a metal detector to the beach.
I wear black socks with sandals.
I know what the word "equity" means.
I can't remember the last time I laid on the floor to watch TV.
My ears are hairier than my head!
I get into a heated argument about pension plans.
When they gave us all these digital channels, out of the 40 odd channels I opt for the weather channel (sometimes referred to as "Old Folks MTV").
I had a party and the neighbors didn't even realize it.
Im sure there are other signs...... :D
jx2mad
23rd May 2013, 11:13 AM
Just tried the brain test and it is amazing how accurate it was. Score 10 r.h.s. and 9 for l.h.s. Incidently I am highly ambidextrous. Jim
austastar
23rd May 2013, 01:19 PM
Just wonder how many of the young generation know how to use one of these ?
Hi,
just missed out on the Guesster Stick, we only had Log tables.
cheers
Series3 GT
24th May 2013, 11:23 PM
Well I'm in my forties and you've just described me, so don't feel too bad. And I really feel that having actual manual skills is better in the long run since electronics are only useful for so many things, but not what what you might call "foundation" needs like housing, growing food, fabrication and so on.
I'm not complaining, I prefer mechanical to electronic even though everything is turning electronic. I haven't spent much time around computers until the last few years, my last laptop which I actually owned I got it for free and then it stopped working on me so I shot it multiple times and found that more fun than actually using it cause it would constantly frustrate me by just shutting itself down whenever it felt like it. Living in the country on a farm for most of my life except one year in a very small rural town with bush on one side and a paddock across from it I would just go out side and find something to do. When I got my IIA when I was 11 thats where I spent most of my time just playing around with that and I still do except I've got my Land Ranger to play with as well. Basically all I do is play with my Landys, hunt and go fishing when I can. Way more fun than stuffing around with a little device that questions whatever you do.
Grumbles
25th May 2013, 07:25 AM
Basically all I do is play with my Landys, hunt and go fishing when I can. Way more fun than stuffing around with a little device that questions whatever you do.
Way to go Series3. A man after my own heart. :cool::D
jx2mad
25th May 2013, 10:39 AM
Slide rule? What's a slide rule :) As said, log tables rule. Jim
bob10
25th May 2013, 01:25 PM
The only slide rule I remember is when it slid off the back of my head, when the Teacher whacked me with it, :D Bob
Sleepy
25th May 2013, 02:33 PM
Just wonder how many of the young generation know how to use one of these ?
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/05/258.jpg
or one of these ....:p
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/05/259.jpg
bob10
25th May 2013, 02:51 PM
I relate to much of this, Bob
History of Literacy: "Slates Away!": Penmanship in Queensland ... (http://www.google.com.au/url'sa=t&rct=j&q=early%20qld%20education%2C%20slates&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&ved=0CD4QFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.historyliteracy.org%2Fscripts %2Fsearch_display.php%3FArticle_ID%3D130&ei=j1CgUZTPAq2Rigev1oG4CQ&usg=AFQjCNHL9G9nwV2WCe2QTx1wrS-bwuY3Nw)
jx2mad
25th May 2013, 03:07 PM
My father was born in 1910 and left school(as dux) at the age of 12 to work to support his family. His father was invalid with arthritis. I was doing some algebra when dad asked what I was doing. I explained what algebra was and he went away with this complex equation on some paper. A short while later he came in and asked if he had the right answers. To my amazement he had. I asked him how he did it and he said he rumbled some numbers in his head and the result seemed to fit. I often imagine what he might have become if he had had the chance of an education.
Davo
26th May 2013, 10:47 PM
I'm not complaining, I prefer mechanical to electronic even though everything is turning electronic. I haven't spent much time around computers until the last few years, my last laptop which I actually owned I got it for free and then it stopped working on me so I shot it multiple times and found that more fun than actually using it cause it would constantly frustrate me by just shutting itself down whenever it felt like it. Living in the country on a farm for most of my life except one year in a very small rural town with bush on one side and a paddock across from it I would just go out side and find something to do. When I got my IIA when I was 11 thats where I spent most of my time just playing around with that and I still do except I've got my Land Ranger to play with as well. Basically all I do is play with my Landys, hunt and go fishing when I can. Way more fun than stuffing around with a little device that questions whatever you do.
:D:D:D Same here - I've belted computers in the past, and sworn to the point where my wife will threaten me with wifely threats, but now I'm going to blast one with the shotgun when I get the chance! I hate bloody computers, the way nothing makes any sense and doing anything involves at least thirty steps, and then something crashes or breaks or whatever, and you ask an expert and they say it's normal. So a human being actually designed it like that???
Series3 GT
31st May 2013, 08:19 PM
:D:D:D Same here - I've belted computers in the past, and sworn to the point where my wife will threaten me with wifely threats, but now I'm going to blast one with the shotgun when I get the chance! I hate bloody computers, the way nothing makes any sense and doing anything involves at least thirty steps, and then something crashes or breaks or whatever, and you ask an expert and they say it's normal. So a human being actually designed it like that???
Trust me it's great fun, I'd prefer to use a 12ga but a mate had just bought a .410 and had boxes of No.6's and a couple of slugs so we let loose on it:twisted: I've done the same thing on many appliances from kettles to video players. My recommendation is a 12ga with a packet of No.6's or something of that size cause it'd be a waste of buckshot wouldn't it:D I've pulled apart and destroyed many devices cause i can. The laptop didn't seem to like the 33" tyres of the IIA for some reason:twisted: It's all good fun.
bob10
1st June 2013, 02:30 PM
Trust me it's great fun, I'd prefer to use a 12ga but a mate had just bought a .410 and had boxes of No.6's and a couple of slugs so we let loose on it:twisted: I've done the same thing on many appliances from kettles to video players. My recommendation is a 12ga with a packet of No.6's or something of that size cause it'd be a waste of buckshot wouldn't it:D I've pulled apart and destroyed many devices cause i can. The laptop didn't seem to like the 33" tyres of the IIA for some reason:twisted: It's all good fun.
:eek: Is that the sound of duelling banjos in the background? :) Bob
snowbound
1st June 2013, 02:50 PM
Well, I bought my 3 yr old grandson a ride on electric (12v) jeep on the net. This thing runs all day on a charge and he loves it, drives it like a pro. Can't wait til he can drive a RRC! :)
Chucaro
1st June 2013, 03:15 PM
Well, I bought my 3 yr old grandson a ride on electric (12v) jeep on the net. This thing runs all day on a charge and he loves it, drives it like a pro. Can't wait til he can drive a RRC! :)
I have done the same with one of my grandsons, now I am looking forward for him to be old enough to get a clubman class go kart :cool:
justinc
1st June 2013, 04:10 PM
Miss Casey the Latin teacher. What about Miss Norris the girl's pe teacher who always wore a mini skirt. Then there was Mr Bonnell who ran the Cadets. Jim
Somehow I am worried this thread is heading towards something that we all need not know about.....:eek::D
JC
Chucaro
1st June 2013, 04:13 PM
Somehow I am worried this thread is heading towards something that we all need not know about.....:eek::D
JC
We can rate it M ++ :D
.........and wait until someone have more than one glass or two :p
bob10
1st June 2013, 04:19 PM
We can rate it M ++ :D
.........and wait until someone have more than one glass or two :p
That sounds like a challenge, opening fridge......now Bob:D
justinc
1st June 2013, 04:21 PM
:D:D:D Same here - I've belted computers in the past, and sworn to the point where my wife will threaten me with wifely threats, but now I'm going to blast one with the shotgun when I get the chance! I hate bloody computers, the way nothing makes any sense and doing anything involves at least thirty steps, and then something crashes or breaks or whatever, and you ask an expert and they say it's normal. So a human being actually designed it like that???
Davo, it is the mind numbing logic of the Binary world at work there mate.
I found the PLC programming units at engineering school the most frustrating and banal of all the industrial control units. Of course they are invaluable things to industry, PLCs, but why does it have to be so SIMPLE?????:mad::mad::mad::mad: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!
JC
Chucaro
1st June 2013, 04:26 PM
That sounds like a challenge, opening fridge......now Bob:D
Bob, that have the risk to give a new meaning to a "dirty old man" :D
bob10
1st June 2013, 05:48 PM
Bob, that have the risk to give a new meaning to a "dirty old man" :D
Well, just finished greasing the front drive shaft of my D2, so I fit the bill, in the best way, Bob :p
Pinelli
1st June 2013, 06:50 PM
Just found this thread and love it, being a) a maths teacher and b) 40 yrs old. Young enough not to remember slide rules, old enough that I spent most of school without a calculator, so I can actually do a lot of maths mentally (which drives my students nuts, because they can't).
A couple of observations. We began a laptop program at school recently, so all kids from years 8-12 got their own laptop. W naturally assumed the kids would be able to use them productively, being teenagers. We were wrong. Games, yes, Facebook, yes, but even google and email they struggled with using effectively, let alone Excel or Word. We're making good use of them, but its been interesting and challenging times for us.
Second, watched a TED video on maths education recently. The summary is that we really don't need to be teaching much algebra and calculus to kids these days, statistics is much more important (something I agree with). This educator found kids very comfortable with graphics calculators, and found that the average grade 5 kid could use them to solve problems that kids in yr 12 solve using integral calculus.
Interesting times in education at the moment, for many reasons
justinc
1st June 2013, 07:05 PM
Just found this thread and love it, being a) a maths teacher and b) 40 yrs old. Young enough not to remember slide rules, old enough that I spent most of school without a calculator, so I can actually do a lot of maths mentally (which drives my students nuts, because they can't).
A couple of observations. We began a laptop program at school recently, so all kids from years 8-12 got their own laptop. W naturally assumed the kids would be able to use them productively, being teenagers. We were wrong. Games, yes, Facebook, yes, but even google and email they struggled with using effectively, let alone Excel or Word. We're making good use of them, but its been interesting and challenging times for us.
Second, watched a TED video on maths education recently. The summary is that we really don't need to be teaching much algebra and calculus to kids these days, statistics is much more important (something I agree with). This educator found kids very comfortable with graphics calculators, and found that the average grade 5 kid could use them to solve problems that kids in yr 12 solve using integral calculus.
Interesting times in education at the moment, for many reasons
that was the worst unit i had to do. i can appreciate its awesome uses but i just couldn't grasp it:(
jc
bob10
1st June 2013, 07:39 PM
Interesting times in education at the moment, for many reasons
My daughter is in the final year of her Teaching Degree at the A.C.U., Brisbane. She is doing her practical placement , and has been offered an internship at this school. She says any credit is due to her mentor, a teacher with many years experience, who has taken her under her wing. Daughter says ' She is a grumpy old fart, who takes no crap, but has the total respect of the students' . Daughter has said she would do some things different, but keeps that to herself. :D Bob
Flipper
1st June 2013, 07:40 PM
Just found this thread and love it, being a) a maths teacher and b) 40 yrs old. Young enough not to remember slide rules, old enough that I spent most of school without a calculator, so I can actually do a lot of maths mentally (which drives my students nuts, because they can't).
A couple of observations. We began a laptop program at school recently, so all kids from years 8-12 got their own laptop. W naturally assumed the kids would be able to use them productively, being teenagers. We were wrong. Games, yes, Facebook, yes, but even google and email they struggled with using effectively, let alone Excel or Word. We're making good use of them, but its been interesting and challenging times for us.
Second, watched a TED video on maths education recently. The summary is that we really don't need to be teaching much algebra and calculus to kids these days, statistics is much more important (something I agree with). This educator found kids very comfortable with graphics calculators, and found that the average grade 5 kid could use them to solve problems that kids in yr 12 solve using integral calculus.
Interesting times in education at the moment, for many reasons
When I was a young kid, if we were ever got caught with a calculator in class it was the cane across the back of the fingers.
But now days teachers accept and use calculators/computers in class.
Go figure...
Chucaro
1st June 2013, 08:13 PM
When I was a young kid, if we were ever got caught with a calculator in class it was the cane across the back of the fingers.
But now days teachers accept and use calculators/computers in class.
Go figure...
Not accept, the school even recommend a brand of calculators and in many cases they sell them at discounted prices at their schools shops.
Pinelli
1st June 2013, 08:48 PM
Hopefully the school and teachers actually teach them both how and when to use them.
I'm not on any maths classes this year, (full timetable of Physics and science), but when teaching maths, I use weekly or fortnightly tables tests with my students. They learn that calculators are no good because they're too slow for the speed of the test - much quicker to do them in your head. The kids usually enjoy it because after their first one, they get a small reward (sticker, stamp or similar) when they improve on their personal best. Gives all the kids the chance to get a bit of recognition for improving, even those that normally fail everything else.
I also increase the speed at which the tables have to be answered as the year progresses, which they don't enjoy so much :twisted:
Pinelli
1st June 2013, 08:51 PM
that was the worst unit i had to do. i can appreciate its awesome uses but i just couldn't grasp it:(
jc
Do you want me to send over some 10 year olds with graphic calculators to help?:angel:
Pinelli
1st June 2013, 08:59 PM
Just out of curiosity, I wonder how many old timers here complaining about laptops and calculators at school these days happen to have a set of ratcheting ring spanners, air tools and cordless drills in their shed.
In my day, I had a pair of pliers, a set of screwdrivers and a sidchrome spanner set, and anything else was luxury:wasntme:
jx2mad
1st June 2013, 09:18 PM
In 1967 at the age of 27 I was selected to go back to TAFE to do the electronics certificate course.First lesson was maths and I was rather apprehensive since I left school at 15 in 1963 with my intermediate certificate. The lecturer arrived and said to the class to have a go at some maths questions on the board. Q1 was..draw a time line and mark certain features on it. My mate, the same age as me looked at me and shrugged. We sat there with blank looks on our faces,along with a few others. The teacher looked up and saw us sitting and looking puzzled. He asked what was the problem. We indicated we did not know what a time line was. He just sat and stared at us slowly scratching his head. Then he asked the class what qualifications each one had. Most had the HSC and so down the line. Intermediate certificate was popular. And then the penny dropped. Since we had left school most of the terminology had changed. They now spoke a different language to what we knew. He then took the class back to basics and taught us older guys the new maths terminology. He thought it was funny teaching adults what they teach kids in infants school. Jim
bee utey
1st June 2013, 10:06 PM
In 1967 at the age of 27 I was selected to go back to TAFE to do the electronics certificate course.First lesson was maths and I was rather apprehensive since I left school at 15 in 1963...
Wow, you aged 12 years between 1963 and 1967? Bad at maths or a looong trip in a space ship...:p
jx2mad
2nd June 2013, 07:04 AM
Any advance on 1973? Jim :o :):):):)
UncleHo
2nd June 2013, 07:22 AM
1975
1963 @ 15 + 12 years = 1975
cheers
greg smith
2nd June 2013, 07:48 AM
I remember hearing my uncle saying things like "we milked the whole herd by hand"--"it was so cold we stood in the cow s--t to keep our feet warm" and "you young fellas don't know how good you've got it" I'm now a young fella of 58 and hearing the same said of those coming behind us:D
Mick_Marsh
2nd June 2013, 08:13 AM
Wow, you aged 12 years between 1963 and 1967? Bad at maths or a looong trip in a space ship...:p
There are three kinds of people in this world.
Those who can count, and those that can't.
vnx205
2nd June 2013, 08:53 AM
Miss Casey the Latin teacher. What about Miss Norris the girl's pe teacher who always wore a mini skirt. Then there was Mr Bonnell who ran the Cadets. Jim
Somehow I am worried this thread is heading towards something that we all need not know about.....:eek::D
JC
In our defence, you have to remember that this was at a time when the girls wore serge tunics and it was common practice for schools to measure the length of the girls' tunics to ensure that they reached almost to their knees.
Is it any wonder that the sight of Miss Norris in her very short PE tunic set our hearts racing? :)
Chucaro
2nd June 2013, 09:39 AM
Wow, you aged 12 years between 1963 and 1967? Bad at maths or a looong trip in a space ship...:p
Give him a brake. it was @ 10.18 pm!
For sure he have 1 or 2 glasses of wine plus "the must have after dinner" glass of brandy :D
Davo
2nd June 2013, 11:12 AM
Just out of curiosity, I wonder how many old timers here complaining about laptops and calculators at school these days happen to have a set of ratcheting ring spanners, air tools and cordless drills in their shed.
In my day, I had a pair of pliers, a set of screwdrivers and a sidchrome spanner set, and anything else was luxury:wasntme:
I'm pretty much still there. I only got a tiny air compressor last year! No wonder I need to be in better shape. I've never used air tools on a car and it would probably take me half a decade to get used to the idea.
jx2mad
2nd June 2013, 01:04 PM
I thought I was losing the plot 1946 + 15 years = 1961 :D So 12 years later would be 1973. So that date was right:):)
Chucaro
2nd June 2013, 02:06 PM
In 1967 at the age of 27 ..................
Bugger I lost the plot, in my book 1940 + 27 is 1967 so from were come the 1946 :confused:
I have to dust my Abacus :(
jx2mad
2nd June 2013, 04:31 PM
Darn. My maths has gone out the window. Must be the stuff I am taking for my colonoscopy tomorrow :D:D:D:mad::mad::mad:
Chucaro
2nd June 2013, 04:36 PM
Darn. My maths has gone out the window. Must be the stuff I am taking for my colonoscopy tomorrow :D:D:D:mad::mad::mad:
Relax mate, have a brake, the colonoscopy is in the wrong end, the brain is in the head............well.......I am :confused: now :D
This is getting better and better and we are not in the happy hour yet :D
Series3 GT
4th June 2013, 08:56 PM
:eek: Is that the sound of duelling banjos in the background? :) Bob
This ain't deliverance just south W.A:D It's more like the movie Razorback here with less desert and more mountains and rain.:p
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