A Friend of mine was murderd on Tuesday night

[The ho har's]

Now I can't get my head around this ATM....WHY DO THIS

She was walking to work and some loony wants to attack her, apperantly, she was raped, she was 3 months pregnant and looking forward to the baby,

WHY???

Mrs hh:(

[Disco Muppet]

Jeez, that's shocking Mrs HH. :(
Seems more and more these days we're seeing people do stuff that rocks you to the core, trying to understand why someone could do such evil things :(
My thoughts are with her friends and family.

[sheerluck]

Really sorry to hear that Mrs HH.

Sometimes, just when you think all is great with the world, it throws up some absolute horrors. And for a young woman, in her prime and with an extra life on the way to end her days like that, it is a tragedy beyond words.

[Slunnie]

It is insane. Recently, my dog washer for years and years, a lady I first knew as the canteen lady as a kid had her son murdered by his friend - shot. It really makes you wonder when these things start happening so close to home.

I'm really sorry to hear this mrs hh

[Ranga]

Just terrible :(

[S3ute]

Carolyn,

Hello.

I simply don't have an answer. But I share your bewilderment and pain.

It is senseless and I can't make sense of it either.

What more can we say?

Ever yours.

[Bearman]

Sorry to hear Mrs HH, I can't even imagine what makes these mongrels do these things. We have a similar one here in Mackay. 3 months ago a a young woman (Shandee Blackburn) was stabbed to death not far from her home after finishing work late at night. Her killer has still not been found. It is thought that she must have known her killer but no arrest as yet. :(

[jimr1]

I wish there was something I could say , but there are no words ,this is so sad , I feel for her family and friends .

[Chucaro]

Very sorry for your lost Carolyn, this a terrible thing to happens to any.
I just wonder were our society and humanity is heading when people to not have any value for life and creation :(

[Sue]

*hugs* Carolyn.. I have been following that story and my horror at what your friend suffered is immense.. I can only imagine how those who knew and loved her are feeling right now..

I'll never understand this kind of senseless act...

[easo]

Condolences Carolyn,

Easo

[The ho har's]

Thanks all for your kind wishes, much appreciated, when times like this happen you know where your friends are ;) thank you all

Mrs hh:angel:

[Basil135]

So sorry to hear about this. Just isn't fair.

Senseless is the only word that comes to mind.

[JDNSW]

My sympathy to you and the family.

John

[Lotz-A-Landies]

:BigCry: :BigCry:

Its just senseless. :(

[scanfor]

You can't look for reason when stuff like this happens, you are dealing with unreasonable people, and you cannot apply your morals to them.
I'm mad, sad, and very frustrated that life can be like this at times.
Enjoy some of the good things in your life, and try to put it behind you when you have finished grieving.

[frantic]

So sorry to hear this.
This makes me worry for my kids future. Have they caught the rotter or got a suspect?

[Bundalene]

So sorry to hear you have lost a friend to some senseless murderer. Hope the police will find and punish the culprit.

Why does this sort of insane thing happen....how can anyone take another persons life, I will never understand.

Condolences to your friends family.

[UncleHo]

Condolences to you Mrs HH from myself and the management.

[RichardK]

I am also sorry to hear of this Mrs HH, I am unable to understand the amount of agression and anger in the world today against fellow people

How will we ever deal with this problem????????????

[newhue]

Carolyn, sorry to hear your pain.

why......a very good question......up to all of us to answer.

[korg20000bc]

What a kick in the guts...

[33chinacars]

There's nothing I can say that will take the pain way.

But you & all those concerned are in our thoughts and prayers.

Mindless Senseless Acts makes my blood boil

[Chops]

We're sorry to hear of this Carolyn,,
Take care, thinking of you.

M & L

[Brian]

I can add no more than what has been already been said.
stay strong
Brian.

[Killer]

I don't know why, Carolyn, it is so hard for the rest of us to comprehend what goes on in these peoples minds. When I heard where the girl worked, I thought of you and wondered if you might know her. I am sorry for your sorrow and for her family's sorrow.
Mick.

[Dinty]

So sad Mrs H, here's hoping the law catches up with the perpetrator ASAP condolences to you and her family, such a waste, Dennis

[numpty]

So sorry Carolyn. I saw this on some news headlines and thought of you straight away because of the Maccas link.

As for why, who knows? Incomprehensible actually. :(

Perry

[disco gazza]

Sorry to hear of the loss Mrs HH.
One of the neighbours(there's only 8 houses) at the end of my street was shot the other night.As far as I know he is still alive,but it makes you wonder what the world is coming to with all these shootings everywhere.

[SimonM]

Hi Carolyn,

That is just shocking. A far too common occurrence. :(.

Take care. My heart goes out to her family.

[grover69]

Our thoughts are with you ,
Teena and Greg

[SBD4]

Mrs HH, I am so sorry to read of this horrible event. It is a double tragedy with loss of her life and also her baby. I can't bear the thought of what she must have gone through to, not only try and protect her self, but also the precious life she was carrying.

It is in cases such as this that I can't help but think of capital punishment where the guilt of an individual is proven beyond doubt. The very existence of these individuals beyond their conviction is repulsive and poses a constant reminder to the friends and family.

I hope that the perpetrator is caught and dealt with quickly to spare all involved any more anguish.

My sincere condolences to her family, friends and you.

[Bess]

Mrs H H,
Lisa & I send our condolences to you & this young lady's family.

This horror continues to grow in our society & is a sad indictment of our culture and humanity. As a species we have no limits to our extremes of behaviour.

Thankfully the good & honest people of this world still outnumber the bad. I see this even now by the amount of concern & care that has been shown by this very community that we share. This is what gives me hope in our future.

Take care & hug those you love.

Regards Chris & Lisa.

[Davo]

Wow, I couldn't believe what I just read. That is truly horrific. My thoughts and condolences are with you.

I've just come to the inescapable conclusion that there are some people so messed up that they simply don't have the ability to behave. Whether it's drugs, mental problems or whatever else, they can't and never will be fully reasonable. I'm far more careful these days if I have a suspicion of this.

Take care.

[digger]

Carolyn,
Ive been on nights and only just heard about this terrible thing this morning.

I'm incredulous at something like this, society isnt a society when scum that can do this are free

My sincere sympathy to you, to her family and to all your workmates, I truely hope that people can move on from this as we all know its not something you can "get over".

Stay strong mate, and stay safe.

Nigel and all the campbell clan.

[bobslandies]

Hi Carolyn,

Sorry to see this terrible thing in the news and now here. Thought it would have been your area. We are all thinking of her, her family and friends.

The devotion and support of friends, the wave of sympathy that sweeps through the community and the comfort the family receives will help them.

Bob

[Camo]

Been thinking about that poor girl all week. I just can't comprehend a person can do that to someone:mad: Sad to hear she was your friend Carolyn:(

Our sympathy to you and the family

Cameron & Zoe

[The ho har's]

Thanks again for all your support and well wishes.

Was talking to a police officer friend who works in the area today, there are no strong leads at the moment:(:mad:

Mrs hh:(

[Landy Smurf]

As soon as I heard that story I thought ah crap and wondered if you had known her.
I hope they do get caught and punished but unfortunately no punishment will bring back that girls life :(

[isuzurover]

I only just saw this thread. I did wonder if it she worked at the same place as you when I saw the story...

My condolances.

Make sure you stay safe yourself! May want to carry a wheel brace or a 6D maglite in the landie beside you?

There were also 5 murders in Perth in the last week...

[extreme]

My condolances also

[malleefowl]

Just read this Caroline,
Such violence is incomphehensible to me.My heartfelt condolences and prayers for her family and yourself,
Mary

[Cobber]

Terrible, terrible news :(

A friend of mine was murdered in the street (at night) about 10 years ago, for no good reason. I can understand the emotions that come about in events like this. :(

The one thing I took away from it was that while they may be gone, you will never forget them
Condolences to the family and friends.

[Gillie]

Just read this..... So sorry to hear this sad news.

[Sleepy]

Sorry to hear this Carolyn. Words fail me at the moment.......

My thoughts are with you.
Paul

[flyinglandrover]

My condolences to you and her family. Deeply shocking thing to happen.

[bob10]

For once I'm speechless. I hope those who knew her best , and worked with her, have access to proper counselling. Condolences, Bob

[Lionelgee]

Hello Mrs Ho Har,

I did follow this story on the news and was saddened by it even before I read of the person being your friend and co-worker. Since reading your message it has only compounded it.

There are those people on the earth who will do anything for anyone - because they are naturally kind and generous. Because that is their nature.

There are other people on the earth who do everything for solely their own benefit and this is frequently at the expense of other people. Because that is their nature.

It is a great shame that the two groups have to share the same planet.

Kind Regards
Lionel

[bob10]

An 18 year old male has been arrested & charged with this most despicable attack. I can only hope they charge him with two murders, the poor woman & her unborn child, Bob

[sheerluck]

An 18 year old male has been arrested & charged with this most despicable attack. I can only hope they charge him with two murders, the poor woman & her unborn child, Bob

I was just reading that on the news. And I was sickened for two reasons: 1) he's apparently 18 today. That means he was 17 when he murdered and raped a pregnant woman. 2) there was a big song and dance being made about him missing his 18th birthday. As if that's a big issue compared to a woman being deprived of life and a child not even reaching it's first birthday.

I know it's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. I really hope the police have their ducks lined up on this one, and that her friends, family, and all who knew her can get some closure.

[bob10]

I was just reading that on the news. And I was sickened for two reasons: 1) he's apparently 18 today. That means he was 17 when he murdered and raped a pregnant woman. 2) there was a big song and dance being made about him missing his 18th birthday. As if that's a big issue compared to a woman being deprived of life and a child not even reaching it's first birthday.

I know it's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. I really hope the police have their ducks lined up on this one, and that her friends, family, and all who knew her can get some closure.

If the DNA sample is correct, the ducks are lined up. I hope they have the right one, as you do. Bob

[Bush65]

That is such terrible news, condolences to all of her friends and family.

[The ho har's]

There have been several memorials and counseling session thus far.

I do hope the DNA is correct and everyone can get closure on the horrible attack


Mrs hh

[bob10]

Because he was charged on his 18th birthday, he will be treated as an adult. ;) Bob

[tonic]

Because he was charged on his 18th birthday, he will be treated as an adult. ;) Bob

Hope your right mate, he was not 18 at the time??????? The courts can still decide to treat you as an adult if the crime is that bad, so in this case I would want/hope adult.

[justinc]

No matter what happens, none of it will bring back that beautiful young woman and the life her and her other half created.

My thoughts go primarily to the husband/partner, I won't waste my energy on the perpetrator. The law will deal with him.

Caroline, please pass my personal thoughts/ condolences to anyone who needs to hear them. What a tragedy.

JC

[isuzurover]

Because he was charged on his 18th birthday, he will be treated as an adult. ;) Bob

Can you provide any legal precedent to back that up???

I am pretty sure it is the date of the crime that is important. Hence why the media are not reporting the name of the accused...

[digger]

I am pretty sure it is the date of the crime that is important. Hence why the media are not reporting the name of the accused...

I am fairly sure this is right,
but the prosecution can apply for the offender to be treated as an adult,
--especially because the offence occurred when he was so close to 18 years and the severity of the offence.

I hope they do! - I am a great believer in life without possibility of parole.

[incisor]

please

a reminder that this is a public forum and one that tends to show up in google for all the right and wrong reasons.

please keep banter away from generalisations and any thing that may in any way prejudice any legal proceedings.

thankyou.

[Ausfree]

Coming in late on this as I have had computer problems which have now been remedied. Sorry, to hear about this Carolyn. My sympathies to you.:(

[bob10]

please

a reminder that this is a public forum and one that tends to show up in google for all the right and wrong reasons.

please keep banter away from generalisations and any thing that may in any way prejudice any legal proceedings.

thankyou.


You are correct, of course, an emotional subject, sometimes it is difficult to remain subjective. Anger makes rational thought irrational, sometimes. Bob

[Hymie]

Terrible news, I actually heard about it on the ABC news down in Victoria. Not that I know you personally, but it makes it seem closer to me.

[dmdigital]

Horrible news Carolyn.
I haven't got to the forum much of late as I've been so busy. My condolences on such a tragic event.

[isuzurover]

A brief internet search reveals that under Queensland law 17 is the age at which offenders switch from Juvenile to Adult, not 18 as in other states.

[Treads]

Sorry to hear about this Caroline. It was not long ago that I had to deal first hand with something similar :(

[JohnF]

Now I can't get my head around this ATM....WHY DO THIS

She was walking to work and some loony wants to attack her, apperantly, she was raped, she was 3 months pregnant and looking forward to the baby,

WHY???

Mrs hh:(

sorry to hear this Mrs HH.