Getting an imported 101 onto SA roads..

[Sitec]

Ok, this is just an ask at the moment. Does anyone on here own a 101 in South Australia or run one through Regency Park Transport SA center? What are the options for me getting one onto the road if I'm lucky enough to end up owning one again? I know there are many in other states and have thought that having one registered in another state then transferring it into SA might also be an option...... Thoughts and experiences please. Cheers again in advance! :)

[bee utey]

Nothing specific about 101s but Regency Park isn't the giant ogre that some people make it out to be. An interstate vehicle goes for an identity check, where any obvious defects or bodgy engineering are noted and referred to the engineering branch. A basically stock vehicle only needs to be reasonably roadworthy (lights, tyres, wipers, leaks, smoke, noise etc) to get through the identity check. If the vehicle is imported from overseas then other items may be needed, eg the issuing of an ID/compliance plate. I would ask them about the specifics.

[101 Ron]

Australian road regs require that the front pintle hook is removed.
If winch equipt dont fit the winch pulley on either.
Rego would be easier on a ex aussie army one as it would most likely already have a Aust rego history.( And most likely no problems)
A imported vehicle( from O/S) has a different kettle of fish and any state rego department can knock back road rego on the vehicle as it see fit.
No ifs, no buts, regardless what other vehicles are running around similar, same or other wise.
Historic rego is abit more lax , but if it proceeds under historic rego you are very limited in what you can do with the vehicle.
After having stated all of this there has been plently of Pommie tourist doing the big around the world trip and importing and registering 101 camper conversion here in Aust and alot have stayed here on rego.
A very great deal depends on how you handle yourself and the processes involved.
If you make waves, or try and buck the system , go over someones head etc, you can kiss any sort of rego good by in that state.
Be friendly and get talking to the people involved on a personal level and appear to have a great interest in looking after the vehicle and being a trouble free vehicle nut who will cause little hassles if they allow the vehicle to be registered........your chances are very good.
You will need to sign a lot of statdecs about where the vehicle came from or its history.
I wouldnt present a vehicle which was scruffy or unsightly in any way.
A imported LHD vehicle would be alot harder to rego or impossible than a imported RHD vehicle.

As a side note my Stalwart is on historic rego while another identical vehicle in better condition is not.
The stalwart is a fully imported vehicle , over width, unusual driving position and little history of use in this country.
Everthing went though , because I worked with the people involved and was able to prove a case that the vehicle was safe on Australian roads and the people involved had their bottoms covered if they allowed it to all go ahead.
I was helpful in providing any help or information they needed.
I would add the rego people do use google all the time to indentify a vehicle type, specs and its general usage history, so keep that in mind.

[Sitec]

Thanks Ron, lots of valid points there. I'd figured that what ever I get will be tidied right up and presented in its neatest standard form. RHD is the only option if I want to use it regularly. SWIMBO used to drive my old one and I'd like it to b the same with this one!! Cheers! :)

[stuee]

Will be keeping an eye on this. My 101 has never been registered in Aus. I have the import certificates etc and hopefully with the ground up rebuild it breezes through rego here in WA.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

There is one factor that is critical, you need to have the original of the import approval for the vehicle, issued by the Department of Infrastructure and Transport, before the vehicle lands on Australian soil. Without the import approval the vehicle is considered a collection of spare parts and can not be registered in any state of the commonwealth. There were a number of vehicles imported to Darwin and into Perth without the approvals and were refused entry by Customs and sold at auction to cover demurrage. These vehicles still lack the import approvals and will never get full rego, many have been broken for parts.

The first registration in any state will need an engineers certificate of compliance with ADR at the time of the manufacture of the vehicle.

I know of at least one ex-UK 101 registered in SA. IIRC SA Rego number "LR-101"

[101RRS]

Diana - I assume you are talking about the light weights and 101s from Brunei - if so these were rejected because of quarantine issues. They were riddles with bugs and the clean up bill was more than what the vehicles were worth and refused to pay so the vehicles were seized and sold off to recover costs - some ended up in East Timor.

But your (and others) overall points is valid - make sure you do your homework and have the right paper work.

Juddy has brought in vehicles and had them registered so a PM to him on issues might be worth while. Also Dodge in WA bought a Brit 101 off AJ a few years back and had relatively few issues getting it registered in WA so maybe a PM to him. I think he put up a few posts about his experiences so a search of Dodges posts might be helpful.

Garry

[stuee]

There is one factor that is critical, you need to have the original of the import approval for the vehicle, issued by the Department of Infrastructure and Transport, before the vehicle lands on Australian soil. Without the import approval the vehicle is considered a collection of spare parts and can not be registered in any state of the commonwealth. There were a number of vehicles imported to Darwin and into Perth without the approvals and were refused entry by Customs and sold at auction to cover demurrage. These vehicles still lack the import approvals and will never get full rego, many have been broken for parts.


This had me worried for a bit when I first got mine. I was told it had all the necessary paper work etc but there was a page missing from the "fax" copy that had my 101 listed. I was able to obtain a letter from Department of Infrastructure and Transport saying my particular vehicle had approval but could not provide the original as it was issued to someone else (confidentiality etc). I have been assured that this is enough from the Federal side, I just need to satisfy the state requirements which is reasonably well document on our state DPI website.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hi Stuee

Yes I understand the situaton too, for my ex-UK Defender 6x6 the paperwork had three vehicles listed and the original was used on one of them, so I only had a copy.

What I did was send a copy of: my receipt from the original importer; a copy of the photocopy of the import document I did have; images of the chassis number and the ID plate on the car, to Infrastructure and Transport and they re-issued me a new original, with all the required details I need for rego.

Diana

[juddy]

As said, we have brought over a number of vehicles from the Uk, and are in fact bring over a 101 in our August shipment.

The most important piece of paper is the Approval to Import permit, this allows the vehicle into the country. And proves it can be legally here for future reference.

After this, you can register said vehicle in compliance with your state law.

As land rovers have been sold here for many years the process for getting the vehicle on the road is fairly straight forward, however you may have to deal with people in authority who have no idea on the ins and outs of the process required for getting such vehicle on the road.

Obtain your local compliance documentation, and you should be fine.

[DasLandRoverMan]

Shhhh, it's a secret!!!

[Sitec]

Thanks all! Great pointers there! DasLandRoverMan.... Mums the word! ;)

[Mick_Marsh]

Shhhh, it's a secret!!!
I need to know.
All secret squirrel business, I need to know.

[DasLandRoverMan]

No squirrels were harmed in the making of this documentary portraying seaborne mammals.

[Sitec]

And all is revealed!!! He who needs to know knew more than most!! Love it!!!! :D

[Sitec]

There's good and bad news..... I've found a 101 not further than 15km from home!!! A mate spotted it whilst pruning some trees in whoop whoop.. It even has SA rego and is registered!!! The good bits... I now know I can register one here in SA with no prob. It's for sale.... The bad bits. It's tatty and he wants silly money for it! ($20000!) :(

[Homestar]

Look on the bright side. At least you know no one will buy it from under you at that price.

Is there any chance he will see any reason if he knows what they are really worth in that condition, or does he just think because it is old it is worth heaps, even in crappy condition??? If it is the latter, it will probably end up rotting at his place over the next 20 years...:(

[Sitec]

Sadly not...:( He bought it from his father several years ago and was happy to tell me that it cost him $15000. He then went on to add that "because of sentimental value and the work Dad put into it" rah rah rah, that he wants to make a bit, so the $20000 was plucked out of somewhere..... It's missin bits too..... It's got a home made hard top on it which IMO would have to go... That leaves the lack of sides, hoops, canvas.... Not to mention the two piece front bumper with elec winch and roo bar tacked onto it!!! I'm thinking $10000 would still b pushing it! :)

[Homestar]

Tell him he's dreamin'...:D

Also, tell him he got ripped if he payed 15k for it like that...

There's one out there somewhere with your name on it...:)

[Mick_Marsh]

Have you got photo's of it?
Is it an Australian delivered one or a UK import?

[Sitec]

Not sure. Guessing its a UK vehicle though its been here for a while.... It's still in army sandy brown. One thing I did notice is that it has a logo on the door that I've seen on some of the 101's on here. Will go trawling photos and c if I can find one with the same logo! Might pop back and get some photos tomorrow too!!


Ok, back again. I drew it and SWIMBO said its a Fleur de lis... so we googled it and here we are! Close to this, so I'm guessing its British.. :)

[Mick_Marsh]

Could it be like like this?
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=61064&stc=1&d=1369741645

If so, it's an Aussie. Probably worth somewhere near the $15k mark.
Depends on how butchered.
Like for like the Aussie ones are worth more to the right person than the UK ones.

[Sitec]

Mmmmm, now I'm not sure. Will be taking a little drive tomorrow and will let you know! Re being butchered, it would need all the fixtures and fittings to put it back to canvas, canvas top, all fold down sides inc tailgate, spare wheel door, roll bar, canvas capping atop of screen, bumper (though I could fix that so you would never tell). The left hand side of the rear tray/floor has been cut out to allow for a door so that would need rectifying.. And poss the floor of the tray.. (Couldn't see the floor for all the crap and carpet in it.... I couldn't see the front pillars for the sides... They might still be under the alli skin that has been made, but if they are, the furniture has been removed so prob rendering the pillars scrap.. The good points, its still V8, and LT95. Axles look fine and un molested. Doors and front panel look ok. Dash was std. All 5 rims ok and have legal bar grips... It runs and drives tho he said the brakes were 'optional'... :D. As its tatty it would suit my needs (but not the price), as I'd like to make a similar hard top to my last one, but if it has history (which the owner said it had) then it's worth rescuing. I will find out more in the next few days and get back to you all, hopefully with some photos!

[Mick_Marsh]

While you're getting photo's, get the chassis number.
It's on a plate on the air tunnel in the passenger footwell.

[Sitec]

Will do! :)