Idiots and the bush....

[sheerluck]

Following on from Mick_Marsh's thread and Sleepy's final comments here: http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/175647-campfire-etiquette-2.html#post1924501

I have limited experience of the "true bush" so far (though intend to change that), but have a real issue with thoughtless, careless or downright destructive people and their behaviour in this beautiful country.

I remember hearing a saying about how we should travel - "leave only footprints, take only photographs", which is sadly not a concept even close to how some people think. "Let everyone know that you've been there" seems to be the order of the day.

For example, where I live is somewhat rural, and my property backs onto a large number of hectares of nature reserve. When we moved in a couple of years ago, we set about selectively clearing some of the wilder parts of our land (we have a few acres) so that we could get to the fences.

In doing so, we found that some of the previous owners considered that "nature reserve" means "somewhere to chuck your rubbish". 13 tyres, old rusty car parts, used oil filters, a couple of broken bikes, plastic bits and other assorted bits we paid to have taken away. Along with a blown truck tyre that someone chucked over our front fence one day :twisted:

So if people can't even be bothered about their own locality, what chance does a once pristine bush stand?

Rant on guys.

[87County]

It was a pleasure to travel through some really remote parts of WA earlier this year - if it wasn't an area frequented by backpackers and winnebago types it really was clean and non-vandalised.

On the other hand we learned fairly quickly to avoid areas adjacent to main travel routes where the above were inclined to pull up or overnight.

It seems that since they don't intend to pass this way again they feel that they can leave their garbage & other mess.

[Mick_Marsh]

One man's bush is another man's treasure.
At times.

I looked at a house on sixty acres. Thinking of buying. About ten acres was under grapes. The rest was blackberry infested forest.
I went for a stroll through the forest an stumbled (stumbled is the correct word, lots of blackberry) across a bren gun carrier.

[sheerluck]

.......stumbled (stumbled is the correct word, lots of blackberry) across a bren gun carrier.

Were they preparing for the zombie apocalypse?

Seriously, 10 acres of grapes doesn't sound half bad. All round your place in 5 years time then for some vino collapso? :D

[Davo]

It was a pleasure to travel through some really remote parts of WA earlier this year - if it wasn't an area frequented by backpackers and winnebago types it really was clean and non-vandalised.

On the other hand we learned fairly quickly to avoid areas adjacent to main travel routes where the above were inclined to pull up or overnight.

It seems that since they don't intend to pass this way again they feel that they can leave their garbage & other mess.

Exactly. I don't know what it is, but when your average bozo comes up here their stupidity is let off the lead to run around as much as possible. It must be the heady freedom of the wide open spaces.

[numpty]

Unfortunately it seems to be the norm these days. If it's off the beaten track it must be the best place to dump your rubbish. :mad:

[87County]

Unfortunately it seems to be the norm these days. If it's off the beaten track it must be the best place to dump your rubbish. :mad:

Across the Nullabor unfortunately, the rubbish (& associated filth) is often left on, or adjacent to, the beaten track :(

Apparently very few carry a shovel, not that you can dig very deeply there anyway....

[Cobber]

Around this region, it tends to be the locals that leave rubbish around, not the visitors :mad:

Regardless of who it is, people should know better. It won't hurt to leave your cup/can/bottle in the holder for another hour until you pull up at or near a bin. :mad:

[sheerluck]

.......It won't hurt to leave your cup/can/bottle in the holder for another hour until you pull up at or near a bin. :mad:

In some cases it's even less than that. Frequently we've had people dumping Maccas wrappers by the side of the road near our house, when our road is a residential, no through road. So they are at most a couple of Kms from home, and their own wheelie bin, and yet they choose to chuck it out the window.

Makes me mad.

[Sleepy]

Let's look at it from a glass half full point of view. If every aulro member took 1kg of someone else's rubbish home when we "go bush" that would be many tonnes of rubbish ( sorry I forgot how members we have 8000?).

[Landy Smurf]

I think one of the problems is people see rubbish already dumped and think well why should I go searching for a rubbish bin when someone else hasn't aka monkey see monkey do.

[wrinklearthur]

The council chaps were cleaning up the Elderslie Road that runs past my place a few days ago and I bet they were pleased when they reached my nature strip.
I do a emu bob along outside my boundary when I put my wheelie bin out once a fortnight.

The LROCT has a Forestry road that it has adopted, it's a track in the Tasmanian Southern Forests and once a year a handful of club members meet with trailers at one end to clear away rubbish taking it to the local tip at the other end of that road.

I think that cleaning along side the road could be hazardous, the moron's would sling a bottle at your head, give them half a chance, so take care while doing your bit to keep the countryside clean.
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[Chops]

Hey Arthur, when the trailers full and they arrive at the tip, who pays, do the council, due to the fact the guys have done the job of picking up "roadside rubbish", which effectively their domain, or does the club have to?

I think half the problem with people dumping in the cities/towns is due to the high price of dumping at the tip. Where our factory is in Clayton, which is only a couple of K's from the tip, is used as a dumping point for what seems to be every week :angrylock:
Even just driving down the FWY it's possible to see bags of rubbish just dumped at the side of the road.

[wrinklearthur]

when the trailers full and they arrive at the tip, who pays, do the council, due to the fact the guys have done the job of picking up "roadside rubbish", which effectively their domain, or does the club have to?
Hi Chops

The Club has an agreement with the Government Department that controls the road and the local Tip operator.

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