Number Plate ID

[Grumbles]

What year would a NSW number plate be issued in if it commenced with the letters BZZ?

Thanks people.:D

[87County]

Stretching the memory! It would have been the late 1950s. The 3 letter - 3 digit yellow series started about 1950 and they were certainly up to DAA-xxx by 1964.

Another clue could be that in 1961 there was a colour change from a "yolk" yellow colour to the lighter yellow that remained for the rest of the series. So yours would probably be that darker "yolk" shade of yellow.

[vnx205]

In Narrabri, the plate AJC409 was issued in 1969.

I was always under the impression that plates came in batches in different regions around the state, so AJC plates might be issued in the Northwest at the same time as BXX plates on the South Coast.

I have no idea if that is true. It is just one of those things I have believed since I was a small child and I have never questioned it. :)

[87County]

In Narrabri, the plate AJC409 was issued in 1969.

I was always under the impression that plates came in batches in different regions around the state, so AJC plates might be issued in the Northwest at the same time as BXX plates on the South Coast.

I have no idea if that is true. It is just one of those things I have believed since I was a small child and I have never questioned it. :)

What you say about the distribution in batches is correct in general terms, but AJCxxx would would have been from a much older batch by 1969 - in Sydney ALCxxx and ALSxxx were issued in the early 1950s - most probably 1952.

While what you relate it is not certainly impossible - but could it have been '59, not '69? :)

Makes one wonder if they put away the AJCxxx series for the horse racing enthusiasts :)

[Bigbjorn]

I am guessing, but I say late 1950's. Although NSW re-issued handed in plates over the counter to replace damaged ones. First issue would have been 1950's.

[vnx205]

What you say about the distribution in batches is correct in general terms, but AJCxxx would would have been from a much older batch by 1969 - in Sydney ALCxxx and ALSxxx were issued in the 1950s - probably 1952.

While what you relate it is not certainly impossible - but could it have been '59, not '69? :)

Makes one wonder if they put away the AJCxxx series for the horse racing enthusiasts :)

It was definitely 1969 as they were fitted to a 1969 Toyota Crown.

However, there are a number of reasons why that plate might have been issued at that time when other places were already issuing much later plates.

I was often asked if I had any association with the Australian Jockey Club. :D

[Grumbles]

Thanks heaps guys.

Your responses leave me even more confused though because the plates are on a 2002 model car sitting in a car yard. :confused::confused::confused:.

I thought that the plate year might give me a clue as to whether it has been re registered or not - fears of a chequered background etc. I know this plate rego/year thing works well in Vic but apparently not so in NSW.

[87County]

Thanks heaps guys.

Your responses leave me even more confused though because the plates are on a 2002 model car sitting in a car yard. :confused::confused::confused:.

I thought that the plate year might give me a clue as to whether it has been re registered or not - fears of a chequered background etc. I know this plate rego/year thing works well in Vic but apparently not so in NSW.

By 2002 the owner could have bought a plate number he nominated if it wasn't in use - AFAIK you can check the rego history through the RMS.

If it's a remade yellow plate it will be the later colour :)

[vnx205]

Isn't it possible to keep the same plates from your previous vehicle when you register a new one?

So I could fit the same plates on my 2002 car that used to be on my 1952 car.

[87County]

Isn't it possible to keep the same plates from your previous vehicle when you register a new one?

So I could fit the same plates on my 2002 car that used to be on my 1952 car.

yep - if you've still kept your plates legally ---- you can keep (for a fee) & transfer the plates between vehicles

That '69 Crown would have been quite a limo compared to today's equivalents - do you still have it?

[101RRS]

B series number plates would have started around the early 60s and the series up to Es went through to about 69. With Cs in about 64, Ds in 65/66 Es were in 68.

In 69 the series started again with As - Bs were in in 71, up to Hs in late 74 etc - Ls in early 80s, Rs in early 90s.

I would say that if there was a B numberplate from either the early 60s or early 70s on a 2000s car then the number plate was most probably of some sentimental value to the previous owner and transferred from a previously owned car. If just a straight re registration it would have a new plate from the registration time.

Garry

[vnx205]

That '69 Crown would have been quite a limo compared to today's equivalents - do you still have it?

Sadly, no. At 300,000 miles (500,000 km in today's language) it was retired.

It was a great car with some very clever ideas, like the overdrive on the three speed gearbox, which effectively offered four gears on the way up and five on the way down through the gears.

[303gunner]

In 69 the series started again with As - Bs were in in 71...

When I was a kid, Dad bought a brand new 1970 XW Falcon and the plates on that were BQV-xxx. Years later when I was driving for myself, I'd bought a 1970 Mini and the original plates on that were BBV-xxx

[JDNSW]

NSW has repeatedly reissued handed in plates, and since 2002 is around the time the current system was introduced, I would guess it was a reissue to keep the older system going a bit longer.

John

[cjc_td5]

What year would a NSW number plate be issued in if it commenced with the letters BZZ?

Thanks people.:D

Is the plate in the format BZZ-000 (black on yellow) or BZZ-00A (black on white)?

[Grumbles]

It's black writing on a white background CJC and like you suggested - ends in two numbers and a letter.

[vnx205]

... ... ends in two numbers and a letter.

That makes a big difference. In fact as much as half a century difference. :)

[101RRS]

yes is a modern plate

[MR LR]

Well as it's modern, BZZ is fairly recent (2010 maybe), my mates SS Commodore has BZC plates, i think its 10MY.

Probably had personalized plates on and they swapped them off the new car. (My D1 had BKJ on it after it replaced the old personalised ones, then WG, and was sold with AZ##ZO.

Number plates move around a lot.

[Grumbles]

Thanks heaps for the info guys. :D
Looks like I have more questions for the car yard.

The NSW plate identification system is way more complicted than what I could ever have thought of. I'll ascribe my ignorance to being a Victorian.

[bobslandies]

Isn't it possible to keep the same plates from your previous vehicle when you register a new one?

So I could fit the same plates on my 2002 car that used to be on my 1952 car.


Yes, you could have a yellow plate issued in the early 1950s and still have it today as you bought new vehicles. When the yellow plates were issued they put the frighteners on owners with the superseded B&W plates. My father had AL ... and it was replaced with ADL... There was a huge outcry and the Department of Motor Transport were smashed into submission, supported by a fantastic gentleman and former politician Sir Frederick Stewart who had B&W number plate NSW 1. Even this no plate gets a mention here:
Biography - Sir Frederick Harold Stewart - Australian Dictionary of Biography (http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/stewart-sir-frederick-harold-8664)
Stewart House the children's respite care hospital was funded by him.

In 1969 I had AWT... issued for a Land Rover, but it was a re-issue. Sometime in the late 1970s a friend drove his Series 3 SWB into Dad's factory and Dad said "that is the b. no plate I handed in AL..." That was my friend's initials. Dad told us the story and thought it good that Tony got the number when they started letting people have available "personalised" number plates. It really meant nothing to Dad - I think it came with his Mercury Ute.

Originally BZZ would have been issued in late 1959.

Bob

[Modelsp]

Hi there
My first Car was a "Datsun 1000 coupe bought FEB 1970 rego AXA978
Wrecked August 1970 too much bridge not enough Datsun ooops.
cheers Paul;):D

[clubagreenie]

Ahh the Crown.

But even the deluxe model pales by comparison to the unit sitting in storage. Ex Malaysian ambassador's car, '68 Crown Super Deluxe with power everything, fridge, dual zone A/c, AM/FM/SW/8 Track, Triple SU's on 4M engine, Auto Headlight dimming, Power windows, central locking, velour cloth inserts with embroidered crown logo, all with genuine 60,000miles. Found in the paper for the princely sum of $1000- from the original owner who brought it out here when retired and loved it.

[101RRS]

Thanks heaps for the info guys. :D
Looks like I have more questions for the car yard.

The NSW plate identification system is way more complicted than what I could ever have thought of. I'll ascribe my ignorance to being a Victorian.

I am not sure what you are concerned about - if it properly registered then there will not be an issue.

Garry

[UncleHo]

We had a 63 EJ Holden Wagon on original plates and they were CWL-263 rego was Feb from memory,just a little close to the start of the school year and books/uniform expenses, and our 65 Toyota Crown deluxe (Qld. NYG-889) that replaced the EJ wagon after tin worm got at the roof line,(EH's had a changed roof line as the porous hood lining caused sweating and moisture into the unpainted inner roof face) the Toyota was the first all coil sprung model with the 1900cc 4 cylinder Mercedes 170 copy,3 speed with electric O/drive on 3rd & Top,full light green tinted laminated glass including W/screen,light & power point in glove box,under bonnet,carpeted boot w/light,reverse lights dual head lights 2 speed wipers,armrests in the centre of both brocade cloth bench seats (6 sweater)s/belts front outer only,curtesy lights in 4 doors (red, rear facing)self-seek press button radio with controls both front and rear, but let down by unboosted drum brakes!!! All this as standard when a radio and heater were costly extras in Holdens & Falcons,that was we retired it and bought a VC Commodore "Vacationer" wagon with boosted discs up front and drum rear.

I had at that stage restored my ex-army 2a G.S. and had it on the road as well (OLR-068) on re-issued personalised plates White on Black.

[BMKal]

Ahh the Crown.

But even the deluxe model pales by comparison to the unit sitting in storage. Ex Malaysian ambassador's car, '68 Crown Super Deluxe with power everything, fridge, dual zone A/c, AM/FM/SW/8 Track, Triple SU's on 4M engine, Auto Headlight dimming, Power windows, central locking, velour cloth inserts with embroidered crown logo, all with genuine 60,000miles. Found in the paper for the princely sum of $1000- from the original owner who brought it out here when retired and loved it.

Sounds like a rare and interesting vehicle.

My father had a '68 Crown wagon for years - the electric tailgate window in them was a rare feature at least in Australia. It replaced an Austin Freeway wagon that he had for quite a long time, and that we used to travel all around what is now Kakadu in (the "roads" up there were pretty "ordinary" back then).

I had a '69 sedan with overdrive when I first moved across to WA, and later an imported '75 Super Saloon.

They were streets ahead of the equivalent Australian offerings of the day.

[clubagreenie]

Did the wagon have the side facing rear seat though?

A friend has a wagon with a measly 600HP 7MGTE