Copper bifurcated (split) rivets.

[123rover50]

Series owners need these to fix the webbing bonnet to rad panel strip.
You used to be able to buy them everywhere in the "old" days.
Where have they gone too?
I have contacted fastening suppliers and half them dont know what I am talking about.
They are available in the US and UK but does anyone know of an Oz supplier?

Keith

[gromit]

Series owners need these to fix the webbing bonnet to rad panel strip.
You used to be able to buy them everywhere in the "old" days.
Where have they gone too?
I have contacted fastening suppliers and half them dont know what I am talking about.
They are available in the US and UK but does anyone know of an Oz supplier?

Keith

Keith,

Try a leather supplier or saddle repairer.
They were used years ago in the making of saddles & harnesses.

I've found them from a supplier in Melbourne (Lefflers) but......they are copper plated steel. Leffler Leather | Upholstery Leather | Cowhide Rugs | Saddle Leather | Leathercraft (http://www.leffler.com.au/)

Scotts Old Auto Rubber list them from memory but you might need to contact your bank first before you order.

I know you're looking for an Australian supply but...
Years ago I dealt with a company in the UK it was called the Bifurcated & Tubular Rivet Company Bif and Tub (http://www.bifandtub.co.uk/) they might be able to supply.
If not I saw an advert in The Model Engineer for another rivet supplier in the UK.

I managed to anneal and re-use my original rivets.



Colin

[101 Ron]

I get mine from a old time hardware store in the main street of Nowra.
There is old stock it store and a even older bloke who knows what I wanted.
Younger people go whats that........bifurcated ?
Try Marathon spares(ww2 jeep parts suppliers)( located Northern NSW)
They deliver in a few days and the prices are usually OK.
WW2 jeeps use bifurcated rivets on top of the radiator to hold a canvas bonnet wear strip.
They are also used in the jerrycan holder strap on a WW2 jeep as well.
WW2 jeep parts are easy to get.
Could try a brake supply place, as brake shoe rivets may do the job.
( only larger trucks tend to use rivets these days)

[chazza]

Could try a brake supply place, as brake shoe rivets may do the job.


The brake shoe rivets I have used were tubular hollow ones, which required upsetting with a hammer and are probably not the best thing to use.

Let me know how you get on Keith - I only have the copper-coated steel ones, which are a pain to bend,

Cheers Charlie

[isuzutoo-eh]

I got some from UK ebay three or so years ago. I think they may be brass rather than copper though. Still haven't fitted the new rubbing strip yet :(

[incisor]

how quickly you need them keith?

i have a heap of them in a box, in a container that is yet to be unpacked...

[123rover50]

I was just thinking that they would be good for you to import from the UK and sell through the shop.
I am no hurry, a month or two yet.

Keith

[JDNSW]

It occurs to me that for anyone with a lathe, although inefficient, it would not be particularly difficult to make the small number required.

In my 2a the strip is held in place by brass cotter pins, that are a reasonable approximation to the copper rivets.

John

[russellrovers]

Series owners need these to fix the webbing bonnet to rad panel strip.
You used to be able to buy them everywhere in the "old" days.
Where have they gone too?
I have contacted fastening suppliers and half them dont know what I am talking about.
They are available in the US and UK but does anyone know of an Oz supplier?

Keith
if your carefull use the old ones jim

[isuzurover]

Brass Split Rivets in Industrial Nuts | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/bhp/brass-split-rivets?_trksid=p2047675.m2392)

[123rover50]

if your carefull use the old ones jim

Thats the problem. I have no old ones:(

Keith

[123rover50]

Brass Split Rivets in Industrial Nuts | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/bhp/brass-split-rivets?_trksid=p2047675.m2392)

Well there you go. I never thought of looking for brass split rivets.
A lot of those are brass plated in the description and I wonder if the others really are.
Brass is not as ductile as copper and anytime I have tried to bend some it snaps. I dont know how it would go as a rivet.
I think I will hang out for proper copper ones:)

[isuzurover]

...
I think I will hang out for proper copper ones:)

How do you know the originals are copper and not brass?

[chazza]

A lot of those are brass plated in the description and I wonder if the others really are.
Brass is not as ductile as copper and anytime I have tried to bend some it snaps. I dont know how it would go as a rivet.


I wondered the same thing ;)

If you anneal brass it should be soft enough, but I agree, copper is more pleasant to work with in this application,

Cheers Charlie

[123rover50]

How do you know the originals are copper and not brass?

One of the 80,s still has the remains of the original webbing and, ah, copper looks like copper and brass looks like brass:angel:

Keith

[Defender Mike]

See the link below they are available from the USA. :)

http://www.pangolin4x4.com/series-land-rover-parts-products/body-fittings/ (http://www.pangolin4x4.com/series-land-rover-parts-products/body-fittings/)

[isuzurover]

See the link below they are available from the USA. :)

http://www.pangolin4x4.com/series-land-rover-parts-products/body-fittings/ (http://www.pangolin4x4.com/series-land-rover-parts-products/body-fittings/)

That website claims the originals were brass, not copper.

[JDNSW]

One of the 80,s still has the remains of the original webbing and, ah, copper looks like copper and brass looks like brass:angel:

Keith

Unless the brass is dezincified! Quite common with old brass. File it to check, however. Note that "brass" has a wide trange of composition, with zinc content from 5-50%. According to Wikipedia, the brass commonly used for rivets is 35% zinc.

John

[russellrovers]

One of the 80,s still has the remains of the original webbing and, ah, copper looks like copper and brass looks like brass:angel:

Keith
i will pick up orignal for you jim