The Plod [Archive] - Australian Land Rover Owners

p38arover

9th June 2013, 10:20 AM

I am in my late 50s and still have little respect for our men in blue especially the traffic cops---the revenue raisers---I live in the tropics and since I have the extra dark tint could be considered illegal too but it sure makes for pleasant driving:D

We have quite a few police officers on this forum, including a few HWP/ex-HWP.

I've been driving (legally) for nearly 50 years and I've never had a problem with a police officer - nor have I ever been booked. Yes, I have been pulled over but never for speeding (even though I do push the limit a bit). I've seen the police in action at where I worked and I do have a lot of respect for them.

wopac5

9th June 2013, 12:09 PM

May be wrong, but my understanding of a canary, I that to have it removed requires more than addressing the identified issues (Tint and exhaust). It requires a full road worthy to be completed.
BTW, the tint needs to meet requirements on the front windows only, the rears and back can stay as dark as you like.
As for Mr Plod...he/she only "polices" the laws...can't make 'em. Sometimes they get confused. Being on a quotas, (sorry KPIs..., of course quotas don't exist, how silly of me) to prove their worth, we are all an easy target

mudmouse

9th June 2013, 12:52 PM

Annoying as it is, the window tint requirements are there to improve the chances of seeing things at night - bicycles, motorcycles, pedestrians etc.

If it's possible, I'd be returning to the place the tint was applied. Same for the exhaust...

Matt.

Aaron40

9th June 2013, 01:28 PM

Mt Plod indicated that the tint needed to be replaced front and rear windows, I have had the tint and exhaust this way for a couple of years with no problems, I was accelerating up a incline and the "exhaust caught his attention" were his comments when he pulled in behind and as I got out and asked what the problem was he mentioned not seeing an exhaust, my thought is he thought I had none, the car is not loud at idle to 2500 around 3000 it has some noise.... I will have it rectified to meet the relevant laws and hoping that if the defect notice only had those 2 items mentioned and everything else he struck a line through saying "car looks good", I wont need a full pit inspection.:eek:

Aaron40

9th June 2013, 01:36 PM

Grumbles

9th June 2013, 02:39 PM

The acceptable tint level on all windows bar the windscreen is difficult to understand when compared to my 2012 Wrangler. It is a Renegade with the Jeep Hard Top fitted and it's side and rear windows are factory fitted with Privacy Glass. This is so dark that at night it is impossible to see anything outside of the car - even on street lit roads.

joel0407

9th June 2013, 03:43 PM

As far as I was aware, the tint is only restricted on the front side windows. Rear windows can be as dark as you want. My Yeti has 16% on the rears but only 35% on the fronts. I got some stuff that was colour matched for different tint levels. Becasue the vehicle is darker on the inside with the darker rear, the front looks darker than it really is. You dont notice the differance until you see both doors open.

Happy Days.

joel0407

9th June 2013, 03:49 PM

If it's possible, I'd be returning to the place the tint was applied.

Matt.

I'm going with the opposite. Some people want darker tint and are willing to run the gauntlet on the law. Problem is when you go to some places these days you can get the things done that you want because they seem to think they will be responsible for the repercusions.

Same goes for the exhaust. If you like it loud and are willing to pay to fix it if you get caught then get the big exhaust. Dont be a fool with it though. Keep your loud heavy accelerations to the industrial estates and not in the reisdential estate at 1am.

I hate it when shops wont do what I want because they THINK I am breaking the law by having it. By all means let me know but it's my car and my money.

Happy Days.

101RRS

9th June 2013, 03:53 PM

As far as I was aware, the tint is only restricted on the front side windows. Rear windows can be as dark as you want.

Depends what state you live in. Different rules apply in different jurisdictions. Here in the ACT side and rear windows have the same requirement as front windows. When at the motor registry with a friend who had been busted (front windows ok - rears too dark), I noticed the RTA van (a MB van) was also heavily tinted. When I asked why their windows were heavily tinted they said that the tinting rules did not apply to commercial vehicles.

Are there any 4wds still classed as commercial vehicles??

Garry

p38arover

9th June 2013, 04:59 PM

Have to admit though that it is pretty frustrating when there are so many cars getting around that are visibly unroadworthy and lacking brake & indicating lights to get hit up for this sort of thing on a otherwise very well maintained vehicle....

Yes, I can understand that. I see far too many cars that must have dodgy roadworthy inspections. Inspections are required annually in NSW for cars over, I think, 3 years of age.

I, too, wonder how Harley riders get away with open pipes, i.e., unsilenced. They are obnoxiously and painfully loud.

sheerluck

9th June 2013, 05:13 PM

........I, too, wonder how Harley riders get away with open pipes, i.e., unsilenced. They are obnoxiously and painfully loud.

I was in a cafe recently when a middle aged couple (probably late 50s) came in having got off their obnoxious Harley. In amongst the various patches sewn onto the lady's denim waistcoat (no leathers) was one large one that pronounced "loud pipes save lives".

Bit of a brave call I thought. Attention grabbing, yes. Life saving? The jury may be out on that one.

bob10

9th June 2013, 05:45 PM

Drive with your windows down, let the dog stick his head out, listen to the bell birds [ yes, we have them up here]. I can not understand the thinking behind having windows tinted so much you can not see out at night, and what is it with having a noisy exhaust? What is it you are compensating for? I regard the term, " Mr Plod " , as insulting . Grow up. Bob

joel0407

9th June 2013, 05:53 PM

When I asked why their windows were heavily tinted they said that the tinting rules did not apply to commercial vehicles.

Are there any 4wds still classed as commercial vehicles??

Garry

As fars as I know, they only need to be owned by a business to be commercial. As the legislation doesn't define commercial vehicle as needing any specific registration or vehicle type.

On a side note. The person who registers the vehicle (registered name) is not necesarily the vehicle owner. Parents buy and own a vehicle but the child is responsible for the running costs of the vehicle. The child can register the vehicle (in their name) but not own it.

A person can own a business and a vehicle. Register the vehicle in their name but claim it to be a commercial vehicle.

Happy Days.

Aaron40

9th June 2013, 06:08 PM

Hi Bob, was not meant to be insulting using the term "Plod" thought it was a term similar to Cop, however if it's insulting im sorry, The car had the rear muffler removed to help the engine breath better, something that a lot of members on this site seem to have done, not for the noise, as for the tint it keeps the car cool and you can see out of it quite clearly at night.. however will be rectifying to keep my beloved Disco on the road... Not compensating for anything just enjoy having a great off road vehicle that I love using.... and i enjoy being young at heart in my 46th year, with the windows down and fresh breeze when its fine weather....chill!:D

Drive with your windows down, let the dog stick his head out, listen to the bell birds [ yes, we have them up here]. I can not understand the thinking behind having windows tinted so much you can not see out at night, and what is it with having a noisy exhaust? What is it you are compensating for? I regard the term, " Mr Plod " , as insulting . Grow up. Bob

London Boy

9th June 2013, 06:18 PM

Without looking it up, I'd guess that the window tint rules depend on vehicle category, not on whether the owner or operator is a business. Probably, when Mr Plod said the rules don't apply to a commercial vehicle he meant one of the goods vehicle categories.

Tombie

9th June 2013, 06:20 PM

As fars as I know, they only need to be owned by a business to be commercial. As the legislation doesn't define commercial vehicle as needing any specific registration or vehicle type.

On a side note. The person who registers the vehicle (registered name) is not necesarily the vehicle owner. Parents buy and own a vehicle but the child is responsible for the running costs of the vehicle. The child can register the vehicle (in their name) but not own it.

A person can own a business and a vehicle. Register the vehicle in their name but claim it to be a commercial vehicle.

Happy Days.

Mate you are so wrong!!!!!

Commercial use is different to commercial vehicle.

A hilux Dual cab is a commercial vehicle. A Prado is not. Even if used for business use.

101RRS

9th June 2013, 06:29 PM

As fars as I know, they only need to be owned by a business to be commercial.

Not quite - there are different ADRs for "commercial" vehicles. Certainly until a little while back 4wds were classed as commercial vehicles and did not have to comply with ADRs for passenger vehicles. More recently passenger based 4wds had to comply with passenger car ADRs and I believe (but not sure) commercial based 4wds like basic troopies and maybe basic defender utes do not have to comply with passenger vehicle ADRs and have their own rules. Certainly two seater commercial vans do not comply with the same ADRs as passenger vehicles.

Garry

joel0407

9th June 2013, 06:51 PM

Mate you are so wrong!!!!!

Commercial use is different to commercial vehicle.

A hilux Dual cab is a commercial vehicle. A Prado is not. Even if used for business use.

The commercial vehicle term is in relation to use not type.

joel0407

9th June 2013, 06:52 PM

Plod in not insulting. I think there was a thread about this not so long ago. It's something to do with an old english police officer thing.

joel0407

9th June 2013, 06:56 PM

Ok. I'm wrong for NSW

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/vsi/vsi03_rev3.pdf

joel0407

9th June 2013, 06:58 PM

I'm right for ACT but. My old stomping ground for the past 5 years. I only moved to NT 2 months ago.

More to come.

101RRS

9th June 2013, 07:00 PM

Bob - I think you need to relax a bit. If you don't like the term then don't you use it.

The term Plod originally referred to British Police on the Beat - on foot who used to Plod around the streets in all weathers, day or night.

It was also used in the Noddy books.

From Wikipedia,
Plod is a fictional character in the Noddy children’s series by Enid Blyton.

He is a forthright police officer who never lets Toyland’s crooks (especially Sly and Gobbo, the two goblins) escape from the "long arm of the law".

He always pretends to know the problem, but can never quite figure it out. In later adaptations he is also known as P.C. Plod or Officer Plod.

The terms "Plod" and "PC Plod" have become slang terms - usually jocular or derogatory - for a policeman, or the police in general.

Garry

Homestar

9th June 2013, 07:08 PM

I was in a cafe recently when a middle aged couple (probably late 50s) came in having got off their obnoxious Harley. In amongst the various patches sewn onto the lady's denim waistcoat (no leathers) was one large one that pronounced "loud pipes save lives".

Bit of a brave call I thought. Attention grabbing, yes. Life saving? The jury may be out on that one.

Sort of going to agree with them on this one. My bike has a loud exhaust and I like it like that so cars that I'm coming up on can hear me. It may be against the law, but I'm happy to take the chance and will cop it sweet if I get done for it. My old bike had a quiet exhaust and I nearly got cleaned up a number of times on the freeway with cars pulling into my lane while I was there. They don't do the same thing with e CBR as they can damn well hear where I am.

It is a lot easier with a bike, once your done for noise to just slip the factory mufflers back on for the vehicle check,then stick the loud ones back on. Takes all of 10 minutes.

Cheers - Gav.

joel0407

9th June 2013, 07:12 PM

It is a lot easier with a bike, once your done for noise to just slip the factory mufflers back on for the vehicle check,then stick the loud ones back on. Takes all of 10 minutes.

Cheers - Gav.

Just as easy with a car. Bird wire rolled up stuck up the rear. Pass the test and remove.

Happy Days.

sheerluck

9th June 2013, 07:48 PM

Sort of going to agree with them on this one. My bike has a loud exhaust and I like it like that so cars that I'm coming up on can hear me. It may be against the law, but I'm happy to take the chance and will cop it sweet if I get done for it. My old bike had a quiet exhaust and I nearly got cleaned up a number of times on the freeway with cars pulling into my lane while I was there. They don't do the same thing with e CBR as they can damn well hear where I am.

It is a lot easier with a bike, once your done for noise to just slip the factory mufflers back on for the vehicle check,then stick the loud ones back on. Takes all of 10 minutes.

Cheers - Gav.

Gav, I found it quite ironic that the pair of them were only wearing t-shirt, denim waistcoat and jeans. No leathers, no gloves. Very much relying on the loud pipes to save their lives I feel, or at least save them from terrible gravel rash.

BigBlueOne

9th June 2013, 07:51 PM

Please refer to the link for all the information you need regarding your vehicle problems. (WA)

Road Traffic (Vehicle Standards) Rules 2002 (http://www.slp.wa.gov.au/pco/prod/FileStore.nsf/Documents/MRDocument:23719P/$FILE/RoadTrfcVhleStandRu2002-01-b0-02.pdf)

Cheers

bsperka

10th June 2013, 08:53 AM

A mate of mine had his car used in an armed robbery. After the police had finished with the car and released it to him he decided to check it before driving away. Found a hand gun under the seat! Went back to the police who tried to get him for having an unlicenced firearm. Had to point out to them that the car was used for an ARMED robbery and perhaps it might be evidence. He also pointed out that if it belonged to him why would he report it? They finally took the gun out of the car as evidence. ...

wopac5

10th June 2013, 09:52 AM

Any bush layers want ot run an interpretation over this?

(4) Glazing used in a window or interior partition of a motor
vehicle must have a luminous transmittance of at least 70%.
(5) Glazing in a window other than the windscreen may be coated
to achieve a luminous transmittance of not less than 35%.

(7) The luminous transmittance requirement in subrule (5) applies
to a vehicle instead of the corresponding requirement in the
relevant ADR.

I think it says something like...light coming through the glass can be anything from, but not less than, 65% of the light source. Even though 4 and 5 add up differently.

Tombie

10th June 2013, 12:46 PM

sheerluck

10th June 2013, 02:03 PM

Good grief!

I wear shorts :D

I shared a hospital ward a number of years ago with two guys who'd come off their bikes. One was wearing leathers and came away with a ****tered leg and broken arm.

The other, much younger guy wasn't. He'd had to throw his bike when someone attempted to do a right turn in front of him. Not much in the way of flesh on his lower right leg, right forearm and hand.

Clearly what you do about your own safety is your own business Tombie.

bob10

10th June 2013, 04:11 PM

Bob - I think you need to relax a bit. If you don't like the term then don't you use it.

The terms "Plod" and "PC Plod" have become slang terms -

Garry

I am relaxed, I don't use it, I suggest very strongly you do not in front of an Australian police officer either. We have much stronger names for our police, behind their backs, but I wouldn't use any of them either. I've seen our police in action, during the devastating floods here, & also during the cyclones. I know it is said in jest, but this is not England, Toto. Meant in the nicest possible way, Bob :spudnikconfounded: :)

joel0407

10th June 2013, 08:21 PM

I am relaxed, I don't use it, I suggest very strongly you do not in front of an Australian police officer either. We have much stronger names for our police, behind their backs, but I wouldn't use any of them either. I've seen our police in action, during the devastating floods here, & also during the cyclones. I know it is said in jest, but this is not England, Toto. Meant in the nicest possible way, Bob :spudnikconfounded: :)

So can police call other police, PLOD?

superquag

10th June 2013, 09:39 PM

Any bush lawyers want to run an interpretation over this?

(4) Glazing used in a window or interior partition of a motor
vehicle must have a luminous transmittance of at least 70%.
(5) Glazing in a window other than the windscreen may be coated
to achieve a luminous transmittance of not less than 35%.

(7) The luminous transmittance requirement in subrule (5) applies
to a vehicle instead of the corresponding requirement in the
relevant ADR.

I think it says something like...light coming through the glass can be anything from, but not less than, 65% of the light source. Even though 4 and 5 add up differently.

The first bit does'nt make any logical sense...

1) Glazing used in a windscreen of a motor vehicle must have a
luminous transmittance of at least —
(a) for a motor vehicle built after 1971 — 75%; or
(b) for another motor vehicle — 70%.

- And don't forget this bit...

6) Glazing that has been coated to reduce its luminous
transmittance must not have a reflectance of over 10%.

Whilst this means my rear window is limited to 10% reflectance, - does is mean I can't hang some sort of plastic mirror behind (inside) the rear glass....- to reflect the (unprintable so-in-so's) mis-aligned headlights right back in his face? :twisted::twisted:

p38arover

11th June 2013, 07:48 AM

It is a lot easier with a bike, once your done for noise to just slip the factory mufflers back on for the vehicle check,then stick the loud ones back on. Takes all of 10 minutes.

Cheers - Gav.

Not on my bike, the original system is one piece so it's a hassle to take off the aftermarket and refit the OEM.

joel0407

11th June 2013, 07:59 AM

Not on my bike, the original system is one piece so it's a hassle to take off the aftermarket and refit the OEM.

Lile I said before, if you just want to pass the test and then go back to loud. Just stick something up the back to restrict it. Chicken wire works.

Happy days

Tombie

11th June 2013, 10:45 PM

I shared a hospital ward a number of years ago with two guys who'd come off their bikes. One was wearing leathers and came away with a ****tered leg and broken arm.

The other, much younger guy wasn't. He'd had to throw his bike when someone attempted to do a right turn in front of him. Not much in the way of flesh on his lower right leg, right forearm and hand.

Clearly what you do about your own safety is your own business Tombie.

Yeah I know. But I'm slack :)

ATGATT is a good way to be...
(All the gear all the time)

p38arover

12th June 2013, 06:53 AM

From the Stromtrooper motorbike forum that I'm on (the quotes are probably apocryphal):

Southern cops have a way with words! These are actual comments made by South Carolina Troopers that were taken off their car videos:

1. "You know, stop lights don't come any redder than the one you just went through."

2. "Relax, the handcuffs are tight because they're new. They'll stretch after you wear them a while."

3. "If you take your hands off the car, I'll make your birth certificate a worthless document."

4. "If you run, you'll only go to jail tired."

5. "Can you run faster than 1200 feet per second? Yes or no; because that's the speed of the bullet that'll be chasing you."

6. "You don't know how fast you were going? I guess that means I can write anything I want to on the ticket, huh?"

7. "Yes, sir, you can talk to the shift supervisor, but I don't think it will help. Oh, did I mention that I'm the shift supervisor?"

8. "Warning! You want a warning? O.K, I'm warning you not to do that again or I'll give you another ticket."

9. "The answer to this last question will determine whether you are drunk or not. Was Mickey Mouse a cat or a dog?"

10. "Fair? You want me to be fair? Listen, fair is a place where you go to ride on rides, eat cotton candy and corn dogs and step in monkey poop."

11. "Yeah, we have a quota. Two more tickets and my wife gets a toaster oven."

12. "In God we trust; all others we run through NCIC." (National Crime Information Center )

13. "Just how big were those 'two beers' you say you had?"

14. "No sir, we don't have quotas anymore. We used to, but now we're allowed to write as many tickets as we can."

15. "I'm glad to hear that the Chief (of Police) is a personal friend of yours. So you know someone who can post your bail."

AND THE WINNER IS....

16. "You didn't think we give pretty women tickets? You're right, we don't. Sign here."

justinc

12th June 2013, 07:05 AM

I have several customers that are members of the constabulary. They have a great sense of humour (That is mandatory IMO in that job:() and would be not insulted by the term PC Plod, more insulting would perhaps be the WAY it is said, or the context of the conversation rather than the term itself?
Like you said Bob, they deserve our respect for the rubbish they have to put up with, but there are far worse and more disrespectful names people use:mad::mad:

JC

TeamFA

12th June 2013, 10:41 AM

Gav, I found it quite ironic that the pair of them were only wearing t-shirt, denim waistcoat and jeans. No leathers, no gloves. Very much relying on the loud pipes to save their lives I feel, or at least save them from terrible gravel rash.

I agree. I also believe loud pipes save lives (as well as save injury and material damage), and my pipe is quite loud. However, I ALWAYS wear full leathers, boots, gloves, back protector and full-face helmet... so I feel justified in my argument, knowing that I also use safety measures that DON'T annoy other people.

p38arover

12th June 2013, 01:28 PM

I really wish the cops would come down hard on Harley (and other) riders with loud pipes.

Homestar

12th June 2013, 05:15 PM

I really wish the cops would come down hard on Harley (and other) riders with loud pipes.

They can't catch me...:twisted:

LandyAndy

12th June 2013, 08:52 PM

Hey Aaron.
If it was making noise you were being naughty:p:p:p:p:p:p:p
Mine makes those noises 2500rpm onwards;);););););););)
ENJOY
Andrew

Tombie

12th June 2013, 08:55 PM

Hehehe. My M109 idles at 98db

Don't ask what it's doing at speed :D

LandyAndy

12th June 2013, 09:14 PM

Hehehe. My M109 idles at 98db

Don't ask what it's doing at speed :D

Bet it dont sound as good as a Harley begging for mercy:p:p:p:p:p:p
Andrew

Landy Smurf

12th June 2013, 09:36 PM

I Don't mind the sound of harleys but I wish they could turn down the noise when around streets

Tombie

12th June 2013, 09:42 PM

Bet it dont sound as good as a Harley begging for mercy:p:p:p:p:p:p
Andrew

Well It doesn't sit there going:
Potato potato potato at idle either.

It has a distinctive Thump thump thump...

And a 6" cannon with 3" tube :)

I can't wait till the NOS is plumbed in ;)

Tombie

12th June 2013, 09:43 PM

Best thing about a Harley..

Is the Efficient conversion of Fuel into Heat and noise without the associated hassle of Horsepower.

:lol:

LowRanger

13th June 2013, 07:40 AM

Best thing about a Harley..

Is the Efficient conversion of Fuel into Heat and noise without the associated hassle of Horsepower.

:lol:

Mine very efficiently produces 120H.P. and will still maintain its value,long after any saki sucker is in the wreckers;)

POD

13th June 2013, 07:54 AM

Funny quoting the Noddy books as justification for nicknames- remember the naughty gollywogs? Ms Blyton has long been judged as very politically incorrect.
The term 'Mister Plod' is a mildly insulting term for police based on Noddy and BigEars' nemesis who was portrayed as officious, self-righteous and stupid.
I much prefer the good old Aussie term 'The Jacks'.

joel0407

13th June 2013, 09:20 AM

Loudest thing I have riden was a 98, 620 KTM with a Megaphone pipe. The idea was as the exhaust gases expanded they would be drawn out the pipe by the constantly expanding exhaust pipe. It just got bigger all the way to the back where it was about 3 inches.

My oldies recon they could hear me coming from the center of town. We lived 3km out of the center of town. God knows how I was never defected.

Happy Days.

Homestar

13th June 2013, 09:37 AM

Mine very efficiently produces 120H.P. and will still maintain its value,long after any saki sucker is in the wreckers;)

But it still won't be able to go around a corner...:D:wasntme:

loanrangie

13th June 2013, 12:02 PM

Yeah I know. But I'm slack :)

ATGATT is a good way to be...
(All the gear all the time)

The roads are a bit quieter where you are i bet.

Few years ago when my daughter was in hospital having plastic surgery there was a young kid 14-16 ish that had stacked his trailbike wearing nothing more than shorts and thongs, he de-gloved his left leg and was battling major infection trying to save it. De-gloved means the skin/flesh has been peeled off the bone, i hope they were able to save his leg :(.

My Daytona has a loudish pipe but its easy to just short shift to keep the noise down - if i want to;).

Landy Smurf

13th June 2013, 12:10 PM

Is it legal to ride in shorts and thongs?

loanrangie

13th June 2013, 12:40 PM

Is it legal to ride in shorts and thongs?

No but if you're on a farm who's to stop you .

Landy Smurf

13th June 2013, 01:11 PM

LandyAndy

13th June 2013, 06:37 PM

Well It doesn't sit there going:
Potato potato potato at idle either.

It has a distinctive Thump thump thump...

And a 6" cannon with 3" tube :)

I can't wait till the NOS is plumbed in ;)

I actually like the sound of a Ducatti being tortured rather than a Harley,sound much stronger.
Andrew

jimr1

13th June 2013, 06:37 PM

I see heaps of people riding around with shorts and thongs on the road and quite often have wondered why that would be legal.
I quite often go barefoot with shorts and no helmet when around the paddock.
If I go on the road I have long pants,jacket,boots and helmet.
Hi I've been riding motor bikes of one kind or another for some 46 years and still do . I think we would all have seen riders with vests , shorts , thongs ect , I think that it is madness to say the least . However I do beleve if someone chooses to ride dressed that way then so be it . There are too many people today that don't like something , so they want to change it , there is far to much pandering to minority groups .Like you I always dress correct when on my bike .cheers jimr1:)

Tombie

13th June 2013, 06:44 PM

Mine very efficiently produces 120H.P. and will still maintain its value,long after any saki sucker is in the wreckers;)

Consider- they are about $10k cheaper new than they were last year ;)

120hp isn't too bad... What engine spec/size...

mudmouse

13th June 2013, 06:48 PM

Is it legal to ride in shorts and thongs?

The only legal requirement, as far as clothing goes, is that you wear an approved helmet (Australian Standard - AS 1698).

The rest is up to the rider....

Matt.

Tombie

13th June 2013, 06:51 PM

The roads are a bit quieter where you are i bet.

Few years ago when my daughter was in hospital having plastic surgery there was a young kid 14-16 ish that had stacked his trailbike wearing nothing more than shorts and thongs, he de-gloved his left leg and was battling major infection trying to save it. De-gloved means the skin/flesh has been peeled off the bone, i hope they were able to save his leg :(.

My Daytona has a loudish pipe but its easy to just short shift to keep the noise down - if i want to;).

Best bit here is out the door and up to a legal 110km/h in under 2 minutes :D

Roads here don't have traffic like the city (although I do ride there often), but there's a lot more Trucks, Doubles etc here.

Tombie

13th June 2013, 06:54 PM

The only legal requirement, as far as clothing goes, is that you wear an approved helmet (Australian Standard - AS 1698).

The rest is up to the rider....

Matt.

Skin grows back - toes don't!

Even I draw the line at Shoes..

I think there's a pic somewhere here of me and a mate on our (seperate) bikes riding the highway...

Full face helmets
Moccasins
Mankini

Was done in response to comments about appropriate riding gear :lol:

101RRS

13th June 2013, 06:54 PM

The only legal requirement, as far as clothing goes, is that you wear an approved helmet (Australian Standard - AS 1698).

Matt.

Not true - try riding with just a helmet on and nothing else and see how far you get.

joel0407

13th June 2013, 08:39 PM

Not true - try riding with just a helmet on and nothing else and see how far you get.

Just like this post is usless with out pictures. This one is usless without a link to the legislation.

Here's some help

ComLaw Home (http://www.comlaw.gov.au/)

Australasian Legal Information Institute (AustLII) (http://www.austlii.edu.au/)

There is nothing in the Australian road rule about anything more than a helmet.

Happy Days

Tombie

13th June 2013, 08:52 PM

No but indecent exposure has a law :D

Landy Smurf

13th June 2013, 08:53 PM

I am sure Garry has a photo of himself in that situation he could share.
But I hope not

Homestar

13th June 2013, 08:53 PM

Just like this post is usless with out pictures. This one is usless without a link to the legislation.

Here's some help

ComLaw Home (http://www.comlaw.gov.au/)

Australasian Legal Information Institute (AustLII) (http://www.austlii.edu.au/)

There is nothing in the Australian road rule about anything more than a helmet.

Happy Days

Think you missed the point Garry was making. Try looking up the legislation for public nudity...

sheerluck

13th June 2013, 09:00 PM

No but indecent exposure has a law :D

I'm glad. Particularly as your average Harley rider is the opposite end of the spectrum from "eye candy". :D

joel0407

13th June 2013, 09:04 PM

Think you missed the point Garry was making. Try looking up the legislation for public nudity...

Copy!:oops2:

Flipper

13th June 2013, 10:04 PM

I will never forget when I just bought my ZX6R and was pulled over by the cops on the first ride.
He let me go after a breathalyser test but the damn bike would not start.
So I gave it full throttle and hit the starter again and BrOOOOOM she hit redline instantly!
I was sure this cop was going to pounce on me or something but he stood calmly and smiled as the bike broke the sound barrier.
Heck I was so nervous when this happened, not to mention embarrassed.

Phil.

Basil135

13th June 2013, 10:11 PM

Full face helmets
Moccasins
Mankini

I think for this post, the rules about photos will be waived.... :eek:

Disco Muppet

13th June 2013, 10:49 PM

I think for this post, the rules about photos will be waived.... :eek:

I'd agree with that. However, I feel Tombies need for a bit of clarification is hilarious :lol2:

I think there's a pic somewhere here of me and a mate on our (seperate) bikes riding the highway...

UncleHo

14th June 2013, 08:25 AM

For years I rode in and around Sydney in the 60's and 70's on several different BMW's and after nearly being taken out several times the mufflers came off and were replaced with VW beetle exhaust tips,quiet coming towards you but a lovely bark as you passed,that was in the days before mandatory headlights,quick reflexes and steel horse shoes in the heals of your boots,good for sparks at night and panel beating car doors that didn't use blinkers when changing lanes!!!

Wouldn't think of going out the gate without full leathers,boots,gloves,& helmet ( open face,more verbally expressive)

Still ride occasionally.