View Full Version : And you wonder why we don't allow "name and shame" posts
p38arover
11th June 2013, 11:28 AM
See Google Sued Over Defamatory Comments (http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/google-sued-by-brisbane-businessman-jarrod-sierocki-for-defamatory-forum-posts/story-fnihsrf2-1226661420523)
d2dave
11th June 2013, 12:17 PM
I didn't read it all, but shouldn't it be the posters being sued, not the messenger?
Ferret
11th June 2013, 12:42 PM
Maybe the messenger has no money. But the facilitator, Google, does.
p38arover
11th June 2013, 12:48 PM
I didn't read it all, but shouldn't it be the posters being sued, not the messenger?
The same happened with the Whirlpool forum the forum was sued, not the posters.
See Whirlpool (website) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whirlpool_(website)#2Clix_controversy)
NavyDiver
11th June 2013, 12:54 PM
I feel the legal actions against GOOGLE is taken as they (google) will not remove the defamatory allegations. Name and shame is ok if a right of redress is provided in my entirely non legal opinion. $2.6 million and link removal might be settled at costs and link removal unless it is about money not the issue?
If I allege or feel god is: 1- Great or 2- God is a figment created to create political servitude is not defamation. God could strike me down correct me with his own post or a chuckle. 'I do not allege the above' :D
Posts that are objectionable are moderated by helpful people like you thank you p38arover. "A name and shame" on this forum about a interesting hotel in the great state of WA was happily reviewed by the council, state government, face book and my credit card provider.
I strongly suspect forums moderated by reasonable people are very unlikely to be targeted by legal actions. I used the word 'unlikely' as unreasonable people and sadly some of the legal profession do sometimes target wealthy Business or individuals with what 'some' people may feel is frivolous claims. mask details with "A name and shame" but allow free speech.
Thanks again:)
p38arover
11th June 2013, 01:52 PM
mask details with "A name and shame" but allow free speech.
I think you'll find we don't have the right of free speech in Australia.
Ranga
11th June 2013, 02:03 PM
I think you'll find we don't have the right of free speech in Australia.
and nor should we
FeatherWeightDriver
11th June 2013, 02:54 PM
I think you will find that google is being sued for the search result links being returned by the google search engine, not the actual content.
Google is not responsible for the content, but they are potentially responsible for search results, particularly if they have been informed they are defamatory. See: The new Act and online content providers | ALRC (http://www.alrc.gov.au/publications/5-new-national-classification-scheme/new-act-and-online-content-providers?print)
Ballsy move trying for 2.2m in damages, but at those numbers I am sure Google will dig in to their very deep legal pockets...
NavyDiver
11th June 2013, 03:34 PM
I think you'll find we don't have the right of free speech in Australia.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
credit: Voltaire or Evelyn Beatrice Hall aka S.G. Tallentyre :D
I say what I think a lot and admit free speech gets me into a lot of trouble :D
ATH
11th June 2013, 05:02 PM
"I say what I think a lot and admit free speech gets me into a lot of trouble"
So do I and it's got me a few bumps over the years.:(
I've had a fair bit to say recently about the crap caravan we bought 18 months ago and named them on a couple of forums plus I've got a spare wheel cover saying "NO WAY' above the retailer name and "NEVER EVER AGAIN" under it.
Plus it's been emailed to them but as everything that's been said or emailed and all details of action by us through consumer protection and the court is documented, how can they complain?
I think there should be more of it and the right to sue restricted unless they can prove it's not true.... or is that why they're suing? Seems to be more about making money to me.
AlanH.
Roverlord off road spares
11th June 2013, 05:06 PM
I'm in negotiation with my lawyers at present in regards to sueing Blknight for using my registered business name under his Name on this forum;)
Chucaro
11th June 2013, 05:20 PM
I'm in negotiation with my lawyers at present in regards to sueing Blknight for using my registered business name under his Name on this forum;)
Look into the possibilities of take Ron as well, he is the super moderator :D
p38arover
11th June 2013, 07:46 PM
Look into the possibilities of take Ron as well, he is the super moderator :D
No, I'm not. Look under my username.
Chucaro
11th June 2013, 08:00 PM
No, I'm not. Look under my username.
Perdon SeƱor!, I hope that you are still able to correct my Spanglish :p
p38arover
11th June 2013, 08:23 PM
Arthur, your Spanglish is far, far better than mine! :D
barney
11th June 2013, 08:55 PM
Thats a bit rough, google's job is to provide information on topic listings on the web, it is up to the forums to moderate them, thats why we have moderators.
If he gets his way, it could basically destroy our freedom of information. But on the bright side, it will create a huge amount of jobs at google.
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