Volvo joins V8 taxi racing

[pop058]

announced (officially) today

FAQs: Volvo and V8 Supercars (http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/faqs-volvo-and-v8-supercars)

[Yorkie]

:cool: looking forward to it, maybe Toyota might get involved aswell, would make for good season next year. :)

[Landy Smurf]

what make besides volvo were going to join ford and holden next year?

[seano87]

what make besides volvo were going to join ford and holden next year?

Mercedes and Nissan are already in it.

[robbotd5]

Awesome. Bring it on. Finally a bit of variety. I used to love seeing the Volvo's running around the tracks a lot faster than many expected and sometimes won against the odds. Not that I'm biased or anything!!
Regards
Robbo

[pop058]

what make besides volvo were going to join ford and holden next year?

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[sheerluck]

I remember when the Volvos joined the British Touring Cars in 1994 with an 850 estate, and then the saloon 2 years later. That took a lot of the existing brand teams by surprise how good they were.

[V8Ian]

Rumour suggests that DJR are heading to the chooks foot.

[pop058]

Rumour suggests that DJR are heading to the chooks foot.

to run with how many cars ??

[V8Ian]

to run with how many cars ??

Two, so I'm led to beliieve.

[Slunnie]

The Volvo will be interesting with the 4.4 V8. Be interesting to see how it performs and develops in comparison to the other motors. Will this all bring about parity issues again.

[d2dave]

Awesome. Bring it on. Finally a bit of variety. I used to love seeing the Volvo's running around the tracks a lot faster than many expected and sometimes won against the odds. Not that I'm biased or anything!!
Regards
Robbo

I can't remember the year but it was in the 80's. There was a Volvo running around at Bathurst. Many drivers complained that it was a hazard, due to its speed.(lack of)

[vnx205]

They described it as a mobile chicane.
The video clip of the camera coverage from Peter Williamson's Celica has him describing it that way.

[discotwinturbo]

Aren't they all 5 litre V8's (with slight difference on the Merc for the engine layout) ?

And they are all limited to their torque and HP. Car of the future keeps them all similar....HP and torque are within 1% of each other and sensors mounted on the engines track this.

If Nissan and Merc could use their full tech, Holden and Ford will be dinosaurs.

Volvo entering will be good....but it comes down to the drivers eventually.

Brett...

[isuzurover]

V8 supercars succession planning for when ford pulls the pin...

Holden vs holden would have been a bit boring... :D

Maybe LR should start racing an Evoque TDV8... That would make things interesting...

[V8Ian]

The Volvo will be interesting with the 4.4 V8. Be interesting to see how it performs and develops in comparison to the other motors. Will this all bring about parity issues again.
That motor will become a 5 litre.
The utes will be interesting. Jappers, Isuzu, Nissan, Toyota et al are being mooted to replace Falcon and Commodore.

[Disco Muppet]

V8 supercars succession planning for when ford pulls the pin...

Holden vs holden would have been a bit boring... :D

Maybe LR should start racing an Evoque TDV8... That would make things interesting...

Nah, Bowler wildcat....
:twisted: :burnrubber:
Although it's not exactly a taxi...

[THE BOOGER]

I can't remember the year but it was in the 80's. There was a Volvo running around at Bathurst. Many drivers complained that it was a hazard, due to its speed.(lack of)

Tom walkinshaw did it in 85

brocky did it in the 90,s


1996 - Australia's most famous racing driver, Peter Brock (05), drove this works 850 in the Australian Super Touring Championship against the dominant Audi's & BMWs. Later in 1996, Jim Richards (the rain master) drove the 850 at a Bathurst support event, giving Volvo their first Australian Super Touring victory. The 90's Volvo Dealer Racing Australia was managed by Queenslander, George Shepheard
LINK - 850 Peter Brock interview

[Cobber]

Despite their denials this has been one of those 'worst kept secrets'. I'm glad they will be in it - do Volvo even sell a V8 powered car?:confused:

[Cobber]

brocky did it in the 90,s... and rolled it if I remember correctly? :D

[Pickles2]

Awesome news. Gary Rogers is one smart man & he will do an excellent job for Volvo.
It will be interesting to see how long it takes for one of the "new" brands to actually win a race.
In spite of "Euro" technology, the good old Holden & Ford engines are pretty good gear, & well sorted over many years...I reckon they'll take a bit of catching...but it'll surely make some excellent racing.
I've never missed a Bathurst telecast, but I'm afraid I have to this year.....daughter has arranged the Baptism of her first child on the "wrong" day!
LLOOVVEE my V8 Supercars.
Cheers, Pickles.

[isuzurover]

I noticed you were quick to delete this bit :D


...do Volvo even sell a V8 powered car?


The B8444S is a V8 automobile engine developed by Yamaha Motor Corporation for Volvo Cars. It is built in Japan and based on Volvo designs.

Volvo began offering a 4.4 L V8 engine in its large P2 platform automobiles in 2005. It was initially offered in the Volvo XC90 SUV. It is available on the Volvo S80 and mated to a six speed Aisin Seiki transmission of Japan also with a Swedish Haldex all wheel drive system AWD. The 4.4 L V8 Volvo engine is built by Yamaha in Japan under Volvo design and specifications.

The engine is unique in Ford's wide range of V8 engines in that it is designed for transverse use and has a V6-like 60° bank angle. Officials of all three companies involved insist that the Volvo V8 is not related to the SHO engine.

[vnx205]

It doesn't have a lot to do with the proposed Volvo V8, but a review of the relevant section of the footage of the Celica passing the Volvo didn't include the phrase "mobile chicane". He does describe it in uncomplimentary terms though. However, I'm sure others used that phrase.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/160507-bathurst-statistics-post1774601.html#post1774367

[Carnut1100]

The "mobile chicane" car was in 1979.
It was a totally stock (apart from cage and harness and fuel tank...) 242GT and was even running on street tyres.
It was entered by a dealer to show just how good they were in bog standard form, and just missed out on a top 20 placing.
The cage etc was removed and the car was sold off later being fitted with a 740 turbo engine but was recently rediscover and the VIN verified as the car that raced at Bathurst and it is currently undergoing restoration back to Group C specs to compete in historic race meets.

I welcome Volvo into the V8s....but I'd quite like to see Chrysler field the 300C and BMW run a 5 series too...

[isuzurover]

No mobile chicane here. The volvo effortlessly passes a commodore halfway through.
Volvo 240 Turbo vs BMW 635 CSI at Bathurst 1000 - 1985 - YouTube

Comments for this vid mention the "mobile chicane", however given how slow Gricey was going I think the comment is more fittingly applied to him!!!
Bathurst 1979 - Allan Grice. - YouTube

[Pickles2]

The "mobile chicane" car was in 1979.
It was a totally stock (apart from cage and harness and fuel tank...) 242GT and was even running on street tyres.
It was entered by a dealer to show just how good they were in bog standard form, and just missed out on a top 20 placing.
The cage etc was removed and the car was sold off later being fitted with a 740 turbo engine but was recently rediscover and the VIN verified as the car that raced at Bathurst and it is currently undergoing restoration back to Group C specs to compete in historic race meets.

I welcome Volvo into the V8s....but I'd quite like to see Chrysler field the 300C and BMW run a 5 series too...
Well, the safety car is a Chrysler, & I thought they (Chrysler) were going to Rogers, so maybe they'll go to some-one else. BMW?...I just don't think so, remember M.B. has nothing to do with the Erebus Team which has been derived from Betty's "passion" ($s!?)...but what about Audi?....Brad Jones had a long & successful run with them.
All good, Pickles.

[crash]

My limited understanding of the V8 rules - aren't all the cars built basicly to the same specs - frames / trannies and rear ends? Only difference is the motor, driver and external panels.
They need some sort of class that brings back the old - Win on Sunday Sell on Monday attitude of the 60's allowing you to buy what they race.

[Chucaro]

just wonder if AUDI will be the next...........

[isuzurover]

My limited understanding of the V8 rules - aren't all the cars built basicly to the same specs - frames / trannies and rear ends? Only difference is the motor, driver and external panels.
They need some sort of class that brings back the old - Win on Sunday Sell on Monday attitude of the 60's allowing you to buy what they race.

My understanding was similar. I understood the Rules were RWD, 5.0 L pushrod V8. However I lost interest in the holden vs ford thing a while ago so have not kept up.

Personally I liked the mid-late 80s races the best.

I think they should bring it back closer to production car racing. Unlimited safety mods (brakes, cage, etc..), Unlimited suspension, gearbox and diff mods but no active diffs or paddle shift etc... Engine blocks, heads and (super/)turbochargers must be production items and production capacities, but apart from that any fuel system and intake/exhaust mods are allowed.

A production volume rule could also be added to exclude supercars.

[pop058]

My understanding was similar. I understood the Rules were RWD, 5.0 L pushrod V8. However I lost interest in the holden vs ford thing a while ago so have not kept up.

Personally I liked the mid-late 80s races the best.

I think they should bring it back closer to production car racing. Unlimited safety mods (brakes, cage, etc..), Unlimited suspension, gearbox and diff mods but no active diffs or paddle shift etc... Engine blocks, heads and (super/)turbochargers must be production items and production capacities, but apart from that any fuel system and intake/exhaust mods are allowed.

A production volume rule could also be added to exclude supercars.

Not with the COTF. The Nissan runs the 5.4 (de-stroked IIRC) quad cam. Not sure what the Merc started as, but the model is based on an E63 (6.3 lt ???).

Volvo is starting with a 4.4 and doing who knows what to it.

[Cobber]

I noticed you were quick to delete this bit :Dnope, no deleting - it's still there :p

Thanks for the answer - you can tell the last time I walked into a Volvo dealer (never) :D

[isuzurover]

Not with the COTF. The Nissan runs the 5.4 (de-stroked IIRC) quad cam. Not sure what the Merc started as, but the model is based on an E63 (6.3 lt ???).

Volvo is starting with a 4.4 and doing who knows what to it.

Thanks. But it will be converted to RWD won't it???

[pop058]

Thanks. But it will be converted to RWD won't it???

That is my understanding as all COTF vehicles must run (the same) rear trans-axle set up.

They said they will be running an S60 model. Will have to do some Ovlov homework on that one

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/56708/volvo-set-to-join-v8-supercars-report

[Pickles2]

Yes, all the cars are 5.0L, & all run a transaxle.
The M.B. engine is based on the dry sumped 6.2L unit found in the SLS, a wet sump version of the same engine is found in the C63, of which I have one!
Yes, the "production" Volvo engine is 4.4L, but it will run at 5.0L, and development of this engine has been going on sinse last year, according to Volvo. Rogers says he hopes to have a running car by last 1/4 '13.
All good, VERY good in fact.
Cheers, Pickles.