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snowbound
22nd June 2013, 03:33 PM
So, here is my Rangella, nearly 30, noisy, thirsty tired & dusty.

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And here is the new RR Evoque

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQiM3QfeECmW1SBumvARum4Bml42UcbA tWpYgcGiAqjReIywFJK

Which vehicle would you prefer to take off road taking the money out of the equation? I've seen a few of these around Canberra and can't believe its called a Range Rover?:eek: In the words of a well known song " If my eyes don't deceive me, there's something going wrong around here"

IMO of course!

bob10
22nd June 2013, 03:44 PM
And here is the new RR Evoque

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQiM3QfeECmW1SBumvARum4Bml42UcbA tWpYgcGiAqjReIywFJK

Which vehicle would you prefer to take off road taking the money out of the equation? I've seen a few of these around Canberra and can't believe its called a Range Rover?:eek: In the words of a well known song " If my eyes don't deceive me, there's something going wrong around here"

IMO of course!

Funny you should ask, in this months LRM, there is an article titled "Evoque gets off road gears". The article starts with ' Evoque was aimed at the on-road driver, but now it's going to double as a serious off-road machine, thanks to a 9 speed gearbox with a super low ratio.'.....Evoque, because of its transverse engine & compact underbody, doesn't have a transfer box with an off road gear ratio." Should answer your question, Bob

101RRS
22nd June 2013, 03:47 PM
So, here is my Rangella, nearly 30, noisy, thirsty tired & dusty.

C:\Documents and Settings\User\My Documents



That is just a link to the AULRO homepage.

In pure off road capability - as standard it would have to be the Range Rover Sport - has modern inbuilt capability but in a shorter body and wheel base than the D3/D4.

Has similar ground clearance to RRC with standard tyres etc but better aids though the RRC has a shorter wheelbase.

If you start talking modded vehicles then ultimately a RRC would come out ahead but only because you can do more radical stuff to a RRC than you could do to a RRS.

Garry

snowbound
22nd June 2013, 03:53 PM
That is just a link to the AULRO homepage.

In pure off road capability - as standard it would have to be the Range Rover Sport - has modern inbuilt capability but in a shorter body and wheel base than the D3/D4.

Has similar ground clearance to RRC with standard tyres etc but better aids though the RRC has a shorter wheelbase.

If you start talking modded vehicles then ultimately a RRC would come out ahead but only because you can do more radical stuff to a RRC than you could do to a RRS.

Garry

Sorry about the link! I hate computers!

superquag
22nd June 2013, 04:36 PM
To mention the Elephant in the Room...

Depends on your disposable income.
If you can afford, or not worry about the dents and bush pinstriping and/or the co$t of recovering it from Very Interesting Locations.... then go for Mrs Beckham's toy. :angel: It will be an economical, luxurious & relaxing drive out to the ruff stuff....and back home again. Or should be bearable in a dual cab flat-top.:o

But if you would like to experience the 'masculinity' of a bit more noise, less magic-carpet ride and no doubt visit even more exotic places on a less obese bank balance (or not...) then Rangella ain't redundant yet. You can lift it, expand it, make it louder, bigger wheels and ea$ily add more goodies:D

What is more important ? - relishing the ride on the route you take or the satisfaction of 'arriving' ? - 'doing' the journey with the greatest ease & comfort.

My Classic is a Daily Driver, on HT tyres... But it's a dream I've always had, - along with the confidence to potentially go where a low-slung, delicate soft-roader would worry...

My rellie recently bought a 4 year old RRS, loves the driving of it.... but will use Wife's (6 year old) Prado when he goes down the beach or risk the striping... Also knows that they will never be stranded on a potential breakdown. I can't even afford the Toyota...:(

Does that make it easier ? :p:p:p

PS, I have always gravitated to Older Women, though these days 'Middle Aged' is becoming appealing....... No offence Gloria.

MR LR
22nd June 2013, 04:40 PM
I'd take a $1000 RRC over a $100,000 glorified X5, Disco 3 or Freelander with a Range Rover badge off road any day, especially an '83 like mine with bugger all to go wrong.

You can't own any of the new LR's outside of the warranty period, but that covers practically every new 4WD.

Cheers
Will

Dougal
22nd June 2013, 04:51 PM
Of the shelf I'd take an L322. They have a lot more suspension than the sport.

Modified however you like I'd take a classic.

sheerluck
22nd June 2013, 05:06 PM
I'd take a $1000 RRC over a $100,000 glorified X5, Disco 3 or Freelander with a Range Rover badge off road any day, especially an '83 like mine with bugger all to go wrong.

You can't own any of the new LR's outside of the warranty period, but that covers practically every new 4WD.

Cheers
Will

Maybe fewer features to go wrong, but age and wear and tear not on it's side.

Money no object? New FFRR, Just because I could. If it breaks down, just charter a big lift chopper to come and lift it out.

UncleHo
22nd June 2013, 05:08 PM
My pick would be a D1 V8 (3.9) gassed,power,RRC chassis and ease of componemt change, but then I am bias as I have a RRC and a 300TDI D1 :D

2stroke
22nd June 2013, 05:23 PM
Only way I'd consider either over my 130 would be with the "modified however you like " clause, even then I'd have to pack light. Then it'd be a 300Tdi 2door and still need bigger tyres and tank, plus axles it should have had in the first place.

Dougal
22nd June 2013, 05:31 PM
Only way I'd consider either over my 130 would be with the "modified however you like " clause, even then I'd have to pack light. Then it'd be a 300Tdi 2door and still need bigger tyres and tank, plus axles it should have had in the first place.

130 ain't a range rover though. Gotta sick to the rules.

justinc
22nd June 2013, 07:05 PM
a restored 1970's v8 manual 2 door. bog standard, original condition. relatively lightweight, simple, and very capable out of the box:)

jc

Chucaro
22nd June 2013, 07:43 PM
a restored 1970's v8 manual 2 door. bog standard, original condition. relatively lightweight, simple, and very capable out of the box:)

jc
Would be one fitted with an Isuzu a good second option? :)

justinc
22nd June 2013, 07:45 PM
Would be one fitted with an Isuzu a good second option? :)

had one of those, loved it:). but the little alloy v8 in a standard 70's rr is just the bees knees:D soft and supple suspension, low low range, good weight distribution....



jc

101RRS
22nd June 2013, 07:54 PM
Would be one fitted with an Isuzu a good second option? :)

But no Rangie had an Isuzu.

scarry
22nd June 2013, 07:55 PM
but the little alloy v8 in a standard 70's rr is just the bees knees:D soft and supple suspension, low low range, good weight distribution....



jc

And has pretty good fuel economy as well.
One of my brothers had one for years.

Much to the dismay of our mother we changed the chassis under her carport,as it was badly rusted from heaps of beach work by the previous owner.:o

Um,just thinking it may have been an early 80's one,it was a four door.

justinc
22nd June 2013, 08:01 PM
And has pretty good fuel economy as well.
One of my brothers had one for years.

Much to the dismay of our mother we changed the chassis under her carport,as it was badly rusted from heaps of beach work by the previous owner.:o

Um,just thinking it may have been an early 80's one,it was a four door.

hi paul, if it was a 4 spd manual early 4 door that would have the high compression engine and the .996:1 high range hence the better fuel economy. IMO this is the best one to own, the 2 door may be lighter and more aesthetically pleasing but gearing and torque etc wasn't as good as the first 4 door ones.

jc

460cixy
22nd June 2013, 09:55 PM
IDE take my old 72 two door any day I just wish I still had it

Equalizer
22nd June 2013, 10:08 PM
Could i say one of the bowler dakar things magine the canning stock route in a day. Not a RR

101RRS
22nd June 2013, 10:37 PM
Could i say one of the bowler dakar things magine the canning stock route in a day. Not a RR

I thought there was a Bowler RRS.

Garry

Equalizer
22nd June 2013, 10:47 PM
Could be I don't know just think it would be a blast

2stroke
23rd June 2013, 05:31 AM
130 ain't a range rover though. Gotta sick to the rules.
Haha, got that right, sure aint a Rangie. Rules are rules I'd go with what I understand, earlier 2door. But not with THOSE axles. What were they thinking?

kaz11
23rd June 2013, 09:05 AM
We used to take our RRS anywhere and everywhere. That was until we got the Defender.

A change of shoes and the Sport is still ready go offroad any day...in comfort. We're well past worrying about pinstriping. They're never going to buff out :D

TheTree
23rd June 2013, 09:25 AM
I am pretty happy with my MY99 P38, very capable offroad and great onroad, in stock configuration. :cool:

Steve

isuzutoo-eh
23rd June 2013, 09:39 AM
L322! Simex shoes, TDV8, some decent bash plates, sliders, front and rear bars (custom made if needed), snorkel and waterproofed electrickery...
What a blast that't be!

WilkoP38A
23rd June 2013, 10:21 AM
I'm with you Steve. My standard MY99 P38A with no modifications, except mines 4.0

snowbound
23rd June 2013, 06:48 PM
Awesome! Nice selection of replies, I guess we all agree on one thing... NO TOJO's LOL

Dougal
23rd June 2013, 06:57 PM
The reason I didn't list rrc or p38 was the lack of a decent diesel. Fuel economy and range with the petrols aren't good.

If mods were allowed I'd be taking my isuzu powered rrc.

wardy1
23rd June 2013, 07:53 PM
Hmmmm.... price and running costs out of the picture.......

Gimme a Vogue with the big super charged V8....... this has to be the best of bloody everything there can be in comfort and ability doesn't it?

Shame about the range....... but then, I can afford heli-fuel drops into Wombat or the Flinders..... or The Kimberley.... or anywhere else can't I?

ROFL

superquag
23rd June 2013, 07:57 PM
How much are we allowed to mod the Ramgie ?

How about a 3 litre turbo-diesel (any make, LR or pref. Jap) along with similar axles/diffs/transmission as required, dropped into a mildly lifted early Classic without sway bars. Tyres to suit preferred terrain.

Grunt, go ANYwhere, range and reliability.
- Coils for cheapness.... Air if you have masochistic tendencies.... :eek:

wardy1
23rd June 2013, 08:33 PM
(any make, LR or pref. Jap)

Oh I can just FEEEEL the pain about to be inflictd for THAT one LOL

Cobber
23rd June 2013, 10:09 PM
a restored 1970's v8 manual 2 door. bog standard, original condition. relatively lightweight, simple, and very capable out of the box:)that's the one :cool: