2.2 Defender Interesting Warranty Claim

[inken_dave]

Just thought I'd ask if others had had this warranty issue with their new 2.2 Defenders.

I was installing the wiring for my winch, when I saw that the high pressure induction hose, from the turbo compressor to the intercooler(Right hand side in engine bay) had been rubbing on the alternator pulley.

At first glance it was miles away, but looking further back, this hose had metal spiral reinforcing on certain corners. The problem ended up being the shaft for the steering wheel! Where the universal joins on the steering wheel shaft, there is a pinch-bolt. This pinch-bolt, when turning, engaged into the metal spiral reinforcing, and acted like a thread and push the hose into the alternator pulley!

JT Fosseys in Tamworth, looked at it, and agreed straight away! Fixed it without question!

Interestingly, Land Rover have superseded the original part for a completely new designed hose!

Thought if others haven’t yet found a problem, it might be worth a look as if this hose splits, you’ll loose your boost! With this engine, you might automatically go into limp home mode! A bit annoying if you are in the middle of nowhere!

[carlschmid2002]

You should have got a recall notice for this. Check the radiator hoses as well. Mine rubbed through and overheated.

[Defender Mike]

I haven't received any recall notice mine is a 2.2 delivered in Jan 2012.:o

[inken_dave]

I haven't received any notification, this is not the issue found in 2012 units where the induction hose, running from the inter cooler to the throttle body, rubbed a hole on the left wheel arch! This is on the right side before the inter cooler!

[digger]

mine is 2012 and I know nuthink!!

(schultz factor)

[holsd90]

I have a 2012 90 (delivered March) and had to get mine replaced not long after purchase then got a recall notice not long after that.

[NT5224]

I haven't received a recall on my 2012 either. Interested to know more about it.

Really useful post Dave. Gonna check this out on mine.

[GlennWA]

No recall for me either. Will have to have a closer look. Do you have pictures?

Cheers Glenn

[Lagerfan]

This has had a mention here before didn't it http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/170750-recall-turbo-hose.html?

Took ours in for something else and asked about it at the time, the service guy at Melbourne City LR said they'd check it out but not all Puma's are effected, they seemed well aware of it and as it turned out we weren't (MY13 90 LE). I'm not sure why some are not impacted and some are, there doesn't seem to be a pattern to it.

Edit: Just spotted inken_dave's post above, maybe this is something new!

[inken_dave]

This is an old post, but thought Puma owners might appreciate the update! Drove to Bulahdelah NSW this weekend for a weekend of diving and fishing. Anyway came back from Tea Gardens, 10 min from our friends place the engine check light comes on and the engine goes into "limp home mode".

I get it back and know exactly what it is. The alternator has worn a hole through the induction(hose between turbo and intercooler) hose AGAIN!

Since I started this post, I had noticed wear when I first took delivery, and had it fixed under warranty! Now the exact thing has happened, even with the updated hose!:mad:

The good news, was the accommodating Land Rover roadside assist! The 110 trucked back to our home town, hire car provided. All done within the next day.:D

The only really annoying aspect was the beautiful day I wasted not being in the water!:mad:

[Leroy_Riding]

no recall notice for me on this either, though the bulletin repair was done on mine when it went in for what i suspected to be a warrnty job thinking this was my issue (my thread describes the woes that had nothing to do with this)

I have the 'updated hose' and it still seems awfully close :S

According to the dealer its still a 'bulletin' not a recall. . . might become a recall eventually I guess?

Leroy

[fonfe]

There's an updated hose and now for some vehicles you fit a new hose, an. air box bracket protecting strip and a bracket that bolts to the alternator that clamps onto the new hose. Only in specified vin ranges but if its worn a hole in the hose some dealers are fitting the whole lot ;)

[fonfe]

Oh and its not a recall.
It's a technical bulletin so vehicles are inspected during normal visits to the dealer or if a problem occurs. So You won't get a letter

[wally]

There's an updated hose and now for some vehicles you fit a new hose, an. air box bracket protecting strip and a bracket that bolts to the alternator that clamps onto the new hose. Only in specified vin ranges but if its worn a hole in the hose some dealers are fitting the whole lot ;)

Thanks Fonfe. Do you know the vin range?

[fonfe]

DA428174 onwards. BUT if your in that vin range it doesn't mean you can just rock up at the dealer and demand it to be carried out. You have to have a hole or the pipe wearing to get the mod as some cars aren't rubbing at all, it depends how the car is used.

[Green Elephant]

I had troubles with my turbo side hose clamp undoing, and whilst replacing the clamp I have noticed a slight rub from the steering uni joint thing.... Mine is a late 2012 model and has the spiral wire reinforcement... its loose, floppy, crap and should never have been there in the first place... once its got some heat into it, it has the structural integrity of cooked noodles.

Road side assist is all well and good, but I can bet my bottom dollar that mine would fail whilst towing a trailer.

Im thinking of replacing the hose myself, does anyone know of a silicone oem replacement?

[inken_dave]

Another update on mine, like other have said, now have the third version of the hose installed, with all the new brackets to hold the unit off the alternator.

With this bracket in place it also holds the hose off the steering shaft universal joint!

My service centre apologised and said they were about to call me in for the newer hose(version 3.0), since they had already installed version 2.0!

I recommend everyone to monitor their own truck. My driving was not unusual in any way. Some HWY, some city, and some 4WD!

[fonfe]

I had troubles with my turbo side hose clamp undoing, and whilst replacing the clamp I have noticed a slight rub from the steering uni joint thing.... Mine is a late 2012 model and has the spiral wire reinforcement... its loose, floppy, crap and should never have been there in the first place... once its got some heat into it, it has the structural integrity of cooked noodles.

Road side assist is all well and good, but I can bet my bottom dollar that mine would fail whilst towing a trailer.

Im thinking of replacing the hose myself, does anyone know of a silicone oem replacement?

The wire isn't meant to keep the hose stiff. It's to stop rubbing from any brief contact with the steering knuckle. An OEM silicone replacement won't make any difference other than taking longer to rub through. Your best bet is the bracket. Some 12my vehicles can have the update under warranty if rubbing is evident so visit your dealer and show them the rubbing ;)