Introducing R8665043

[Mrbreeze66]

Ladies and Gentleman,
Let me proudly introduce R8665043 as she stands today.

[incisor]

NOICE!

[123rover50]

Tidy truck.
Tell us more:)

[bobslandies]

Hi,

Certainly looks good!

R8665043 was supplied by Grenville Motors (NSW Distributors), had engine 865737 and at the time of supply was a soft-top. Arrived in a batch of 11 "packed" vehicles on 1/10/49, supplied to R Fisher on 17/10/49.
Looks like their badge is still on the PS guard front, can't tell from the photo but that is where their badge was fitted.

Can you tell if the chassis is a light green colour, possibly over silver?

Bob

[Mrbreeze66]

Thanks Bob,

Thats interesting about the badge, I hadn't noticed it on any other Landrovers that I've seen.The chassis does appear to be light green but I'm not sure if it is over silver or not.Once I get it stripped down I may find a better section.
The drivers side guard still has R Fisher and his address painted on it. Very faint now but can still just be seen.
Dean

[bobslandies]

Hi Dean,

The metal Grenville badge on the guard seems to only have been used for a short time, so are uncommon. You can see it is a different shape to the lubrication plate of which there are a number of versions and sizes, later ones are printed rather than like the one on this vehicle.

Some of the chassis are in the changeover period from silver to light green and have light green over the silver. Apparently the silver was not very durable.

The engine number is at the front PS side of the block.

Bob

[Mrbreeze66]

I think this is the best example of the original colour.Not the best light in the photo though.
Dean

[Mrbreeze66]

Bob,

Unfortunately the engine is not the original.I was told that it was sent to REPCO in the mid seventies to be re-bored and that they damaged the original block as well as another early block.My father told me that both damaged blocks were sadly used in landfill, not sure which gully.
The block now in her is no. 16104597.Can anyone confirm what size this engine is?
Dean

[bobslandies]

Bob,

Unfortunately the engine is not the original.I was told that it was sent to REPCO in the mid seventies to be re-bored and that they damaged the original block as well as another early block.My father told me that both damaged blocks were sadly used in landfill, not sure which gully.
The block now in her is no. 16104597.Can anyone confirm what size this engine is?
Dean

It's a 1.6 litre 1951 that was originally in vehicle 16661477 supplied to the Snowy Mountains Hydro Electricity Authority on 18.6.51 pretty much the same as would have been fitted to the 1949 model with a few minor changes to the other ancillary equipment (that was probably refitted anyway).

Does it have a flat bottomed or curved sump?

Bob

[bobslandies]

I think this is the best example of the original colour.Not the best light in the photo though.
Dean

It's faded but is the standard light green of these vehicles. The closest match to the original colour surprisingly is the Colorbond colour "Rivergum" that is readily available if you intend to repaint the chassis and body.

Bob.

[Mrbreeze66]

Bob,
The sump is curved from front to back.
Dean

[bobslandies]

Bob,
The sump is curved from front to back.
Dean

The sump is correct for that block - see my correction to post #9 for engine 16104597:

It's a 1.6 litre 1951 engine that was originally in vehicle 16661477 supplied to the Snowy Mountains Hydro Electricity Authority on 18.6.51 pretty much the same as would have been fitted to the 1949 model with a few minor changes to the other ancillary equipment (that was probably refitted anyway).

"At 1951 engine number 16102272 the sump changed from being the square type, part No. 231481, to being the curved type of sump part No. 233444."

Info from Michael (260AC on here) Bishop's research. Here's a link to his earlier version:
http://www.4wdonline.com/LandRover/Series/S1.LRR/engine.html

It has been updated on the UK Series One forum.

Bob

[Mrbreeze66]

It's a 1.6 litre 1951 that was originally in vehicle 16661477 supplied to the Snowy Mountains Hydro Electricity Authority on 18.6.51 pretty much the same as would have been fitted to the 1949 model with a few minor changes to the other ancillary equipment (that was probably refitted anyway).

Does it have a flat bottomed or curved sump?

Bob
Bob,

The sump is curved, from front to back.

[andy_d110]

Nice looking 49 you have there! It appears to be painted in the rare 48/49 grey body colour. :D

Good luck with the project, it's a great starting point and with family history it's a bonus.

What's the plan for it, full restoration or tidy up?

Andy.

[wrinklearthur]

Nice looking 49 you have there! It appears to be painted in the rare 48/49 grey body colour. :D


Cheeky!

I raised a storm on this forum about that grey colour a while ago.

The grey paint code / part number is in the revised 1948 to 1953 parts catalogue, but I haven't found a first printing version to check if that colour was listed then.
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[Mrbreeze66]

G'day Andy,

Tidy up at first to get reliable and drivable, then full resto down the track. I'm planning on keeping her close for a long time.

[Mrbreeze66]

G'day and thanks to all for the help so far. Is there anyone out there who can assist me in finding out my 80's date of manufacture?
Should I be asking on LRSOC?
Cheers,
Dean

[wrinklearthur]

Let us know what you can work out from this information.

Land Rover 1948 - 1953 80" Information Page (http://www.4wdonline.com/LandRover/Series/S1.LRR/numbers.html)

Ref; Land Rover FAQ - History, Production, Sales - Chassis Numbering (http://www.lrfaq.org/FAQ.3.Chassis_Numbers.html)

Synopsis of Chassis/Serial Numbering Scheme

1948 - 1949
Prefixed by an L or R indicating left or right-hand drive, were six or seven digits.
The first digit indicated the year:
8 = 1948-49
The second digit indicates the type:
6 = Land Rover
The third digit (applicable only to seven digit numbers) indicates the model type:
6 = Basic
7 = Station Wagon
8 = Welder
With the exception of the 866 series, whose serial numbers started at 3001, the last four digits show the serial number starting at 0001.

1950 - 1953
Prefixed by a L or R, indicating left or right-hand drive, only on the 1950 models, were eight digits.

The first digit indicates the year where:
0 = 1950
1 = 1951
2 = 1952
3 = 1953
The second digit indicates the type:
6 = Land Rover
The third digit indicates the model type:
1 = Basic
2 = Station Wagon
3 = Welder
6 = completely knocked down CKD
The fourth digit, excluding 1950 models, indicates the destination:
0 = Home market
3 = LHD Export
6 = RHD Export
With the exception of the 1950 models with five digits, the remaining four digits start at 0001 and indicate the serial number.

[Mrbreeze66]

thanks Arthur, much appreciated. I'm just trying to find out as much as I can about my rover before I start to bring her back to life.
Dean