HD CV kit for Defender D1 RRC 24 spline

[FiveSPDDisco]

Working closely with Keith at Rovertracks we were able to bring in the next version of HD CVs. This CV kit is designed to fit Defenders, Discovery 1 and Range Rover Classics with 24 spline differentials. The CVs and shafts are made out of 4340 chromoly and ready for your next challenge.


$828 And free shipping !

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http://www.lucky8llc.com/Products.aspx?ProductID=7881

[Vern]

How much for cv's only as I already have Keith's axles. Will these only fit narrow bearing spindles? Not the earlier wide bearing spindles?

[FiveSPDDisco]

How much for cv's only as I already have Keith's axles. Will these only fit narrow bearing spindles? Not the earlier wide bearing spindles?
Im sorry they are only sold in complete kits.

I do not understand your wide bearing narrow bearing question

[Vern]

Are they the same length as the aue2522 cv's?

[FiveSPDDisco]

Are they the same length as the aue2522 cv's?

I don't know, I would have to check. They are the same size as a 24th spline Disco 1 CV

[Vern]

OK thanks. They have the narrow bearing spindle, so guessing the cv is shorter than the aue2522. I haven't played with the disco ones. Early rangie and defender/county had the longer spindle so the bearings in the hub are spaced further apart.

[FiveSPDDisco]

OK thanks. They have the narrow bearing spindle,

They are for the thin flange style. For the most part 300 tdi Defender to 2013 Defender

[isuzurover]

How much for cv's only as I already have Keith's axles. Will these only fit narrow bearing spindles? Not the earlier wide bearing spindles?

Likewise I already have 300m 24/23 spline inner shafts so would be interested in AEU2522 HD replacement CVs only if these were possible. (Early defender wide bearing spindle).

[Felix]

Very interested! When do orders need to be placed by?

[FiveSPDDisco]

Very interested! When do orders need to be placed by?

Today is the LAST DAY!!

Just joking, I do not have a date yet.

[Felix]

Ok awesome- do we need to order as a group or can we just order individually?

[FiveSPDDisco]

Ok awesome- do we need to order as a group or can we just order individually?

Individually is fine.

[Offender90]

Likewise I already have 300m 24/23 spline inner shafts so would be interested in AEU2522 HD replacement CVs only if these were possible. (Early defender wide bearing spindle).

Me three. I have Maxi drive front lockers on 2 cars. The locker incorporates a custom splined halfshaft that is integral to the locking mechanism (see below).

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/07/390.jpg https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/07/391.jpg

Dare I say, the HD replacement AEU2522 sized CVs (without halfshafts) would be of interest to a few people with Maxidrives up front, especially now that OEM AEU2522 are no longer made and the CV's are the weakest link in the setup.

[FiveSPDDisco]

Me three. I have Maxi drive front lockers on 2 cars. The locker incorporates a custom splined halfshaft that is integral to the locking mechanism (see below).

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/07/390.jpg https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/07/391.jpg

Dare I say, the HD replacement AEU2522 sized CVs (without halfshafts) would be of interest to a few people with Maxidrives up front, especially now that OEM AEU2522 are no longer made and the CV's are the weakest link in the setup.

I hear you I hear you !!!

BUT
Oz was the big market for the Maxi drive unit. I have only seen one in the US. Just one and I get around.

But BUT
I can have some Top Job CVs made that would be equivalent to or exceed Maxi drive quality. In order to do this I will need 10 people to order so we can keep the cost down.
Let me know what you guys think

[isuzurover]

...

But BUT
I can have some Top Job CVs made that would be equivalent to or exceed Maxi drive quality. In order to do this I will need 10 people to order so we can keep the cost down.
Let me know what you guys think

I am not sure I understand your post. Maxi-Drive never made CVs. We are all running AEU2522 CVs (originally fitted to 1983-1992 110/127s).

These are 24-spline outer and 23 spline inner, but have a longer shaft than those you are currently offering.

If you can make these then put me down for 1 pair (no axle shafts needed).

[Offender90]

Put me down for a pair of CV's without axle shafts as well... potentially two pairs depending on cost.

Apologies BTW for not making it clear that Maxi drive used pre-defender 110 CV's (AEU2522's) - thanks for clearing that up Ben. This is the reason CV's are the weakest link on a front Maxidrive locker. Dare I say there'd be a few of those floating about in Oz. If we had an order of 10 units, would you be able to supply these as AEU2522 replacement CV only?

Cheers

Bojan

[LowRanger]

They are for the thin flange style. For the most part 300 tdi Defender to 2013 Defender

Justin

What the guys are after is basically an equivalent to Ashcrofts CVE or Early type cv's,which are a direct fit replacement for the AEU2522 Cv's.

Are the units you are selling Keiths old stock or is he working behind the scenes since closing"Roving Tracks"?

[rick130]

I am not sure I understand your post. Maxi-Drive never made CVs. We are all running AEU2522 CVs (originally fitted to 1983-1992 110/127s).

These are 24-spline outer and 23 spline inner, but have a longer shaft than those you are currently offering.

If you can make these then put me down for 1 pair (no axle shafts needed).


Or if you are getting some made, how about broached for a 23 spline input shaft, and, say a 24 spline or larger count female spline for the output with a separate stub shaft, a la the RRC CV's ? (or the Kam ones ?)

I intend to do what Serg is doing and convert to the wide stubs/hubs and was going to do what he's done, use the RRC CV with a Hi-Tuff 10 spline stub shaft.

[FiveSPDDisco]

Justin

What the guys are after is basically an equivalent to Ashcrofts CVE or Early type cv's,which are a direct fit replacement for the AEU2522 Cv's.



I full understand what they are after.
A true HD CV that is a direct replacement for an AEU2522.

[FiveSPDDisco]

Or if you are getting some made, how about broached for a 23 spline input shaft, and, say a 24 spline or larger count female spline for the output with a separate stub shaft, a la the RRC CV's ? (or the Kam ones ?)

I intend to do what Serg is doing and convert to the wide stubs/hubs and was going to do what he's done, use the RRC CV with a Hi-Tuff 10 spline stub shaft.

Im sorry I do not know what you are asking for.

[lokka]

Im sorry I do not know what you are asking for.


Hes talking about the CV from a pre 87 range rover which is 23 spline inner 10 spline outer and has a short stub shaft with intergrated drive flange

These in the early rangie IMHO and ive tested this are the strongest standard rover CV set up

If you were to make the same CV in the HD material and have the outer spline say 24 spline the same as the diff side gears and a short 24 spline each end stub shaft then use the maxi/hi tough/ashcroft style drive flange .

If you could do this you would surely get plenty of people here interested including me :D

Also are you still able to get the rear axles that keith was selling for disco 1 with the intergrated drive flange ?

[Bush65]

Or if you are getting some made, how about broached for a 23 spline input shaft, and, say a 24 spline or larger count female spline for the output with a separate stub shaft, a la the RRC CV's ? (or the Kam ones ?)

I intend to do what Serg is doing and convert to the wide stubs/hubs and was going to do what he's done, use the RRC CV with a Hi-Tuff 10 spline stub shaft.


Im sorry I do not know what you are asking for.


Hes talking about the CV from a pre 87 range rover which is 23 spline inner 10 spline outer and has a short stub shaft with intergrated drive flange

These in the early rangie IMHO and ive tested this are the strongest standard rover CV set up

If you were to make the same CV in the HD material and have the outer spline say 24 spline the same as the diff side gears and a short 24 spline each end stub shaft then use the maxi/hi tough/ashcroft style drive flange .

If you could do this you would surely get plenty of people here interested including me :D

Also are you still able to get the rear axles that keith was selling for disco 1 with the intergrated drive flange ?
I don't have a pic, but copied the following (2 different drawings merged into 1) from a manual to try and show what is meant. Nor can I recall the Land Rover part number.

The drawing on the left shows the stub shaft with integral drive flange (item 9). The drawing on the right shows the CV joint (item 5).

Although not visible in these drawings, the outer "bell" of the CV has a female spline, instead of the integral stub shaft like used in an AEU2522. The stub shaft (item 9) engages with this female spline.

IIRC, apart from the removable stub shaft, the early RRC CV's are very close to the same size as the AEU2522, i.e. the "star", "balls", "cage", & "bell".

Many converted from this early RRC CV to the 110 CV, AEU2522, when fitting stronger aftermarket half shafts (e.g. Maxi-Drive) because of the stronger stub shaft.

What is being asked for is a stronger 300M/4340 CV of this style, with a 24 (or 23) spline removable stub shaft from 4340 or 300M.

[isuzurover]

I don't have a pic, but copied the following (2 different drawings merged into 1) from a manual to try and show what is meant. Nor can I recall the Land Rover part number.

The drawing on the left shows the stub shaft with integral drive flange (item 9). The drawing on the right shows the CV joint (item 5).

Although not visible in these drawings, the outer "bell" of the CV has a female spline, instead of the integral stub shaft like used in an AEU2522. The stub shaft (item 9) engages with this female spline.

IIRC, apart from the removable stub shaft, the early RRC CV's are very close to the same size as the AEU2522, i.e. the "star", "balls", "cage", & "bell".

Many converted from this early RRC CV to the 110 CV, AEU2522, when fitting stronger aftermarket half shafts (e.g. Maxi-Drive) because of the stronger stub shaft.

What is being asked for is a stronger 300M/4340 CV of this style, with a 24 (or 23) spline removable stub shaft from 4340 or 300M.

Is this it?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/07/327.jpg

[uninformed]

For the life of me I could never figure out why companies making HD LR cvs did not do it this way in the first place. It would be much more econimical to produce.

1 main cv bell/body
1 cage
1 set of balls
different stars for different spline input
different stub shafts for different OEM and AM applications

basicly build the biggest cv that would fit inside a coil sprung swivel ball and go from there. If you take the AEU2522 cv and add some material thickness to the bell so its a little bigger on OD and keep the internals the same size (no small balls) and make it out of 4340/4340 300m or Hy-tuf would be a great start.

[Bush65]

Is this it?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2013/07/327.jpg
Ben, it has been so long since I had stock cv's in a rangie, my memory might be letting me down.

My recollection is that the boss for the outer stub axle was not as long as that in the pic.

What CV's were fitted to the Series 3, Stage 1? I have never seen one apart, and I know there were items, such as front drive shaft, that were unique to the Stage 1.

[Bush65]

For the life of me I could never figure out why companies making HD LR cvs did not do it this way in the first place. It would be much more econimical to produce.

1 main cv bell/body
1 cage
1 set of balls
different stars for different spline input
different stub shafts for different OEM and AM applications

basicly build the biggest cv that would fit inside a coil sprung swivel ball and go from there. If you take the AEU2522 cv and add some material thickness to the bell so its a little bigger on OD and keep the internals the same size (no small balls) and make it out of 4340/4340 300m or Hy-tuf would be a great start.
And IMHO there are much more suitable steels than 300M for that kind of wear and severe shock duty. But we are not the manufacturer.

[isuzurover]

The source of the picture implied they were discovery. SO they may be a D1(?) stubless variant.


...

What CV's were fitted to the Series 3, Stage 1? I have never seen one apart, and I know there were items, such as front drive shaft, that were unique to the Stage 1.

Stage 1s have basically an AEU2522, however the shaft is ~10 mm longer from memory. I think they might be an AEU1811...

[rick130]

Many converted from this early RRC CV to the 110 CV, AEU2522, when fitting stronger aftermarket half shafts (e.g. Maxi-Drive) because of the stronger stub shaft.

What is being asked for is a stronger 300M/4340 CV of this style, with a 24 (or 23) spline removable stub shaft from 4340 or 300M.

Except quite a few that converted have had the AEU522 stub explode, yet often only twist the separate 10 spline stub.

Matt/Rovercare went back this way, and the comp boys started doing it too as it's an easy switcheroo with a broken stub until Keith, then Ashcrofts started producing the upgraded CV's.